So, who did Kabuto summon that we don't know about?

[Brain]

only that those aren't corpses of Itachi, nagato, kakuzo, diara and so on. They are corpses of normal, regular person that takes the appearance, the power (some not equal) and mind of the person the user wants to summon. They are souls. What kabuto is doing is summoning souls of the dead people he wants to summon in this case those you have seen. Kabuto is not summoning corpses but summoning souls. Why are people still thinking that kabuto is summoning corpses...

But will the corpses work when itachi and pain's soul enter another corpse without sharingan and rinnegan?

 

[uhIpooped]

Once again... It can N O T be madara's body unless tobi is not madara




Edo Tensei summons ones S O U L not the body.... Think on from here... If madara's S O U L is in a Zetsu-clone-body .. then Edo Tensei can N O T summon madara's S O U L and let a pile of dirt take on the form of his body since his S O U L is currently located in a Zetsu-clone-body


God Damnit!

Who ever said a clone can contain a soul? I didn't... Memories and experience yes, soul no...

 

[Wamphyri]

Who ever said a clone can contain a soul? I didn't... Memories and experience yes, soul no...

-_-? if that tobi thing had madaras conscience then it would have his soul making him madara making it impossible to summon madara through edo tensei .. a sould is nothing but a persons memory
personality .. soul conscience is all just memories stored together with reflexes .. thats all our personality is ... therefore if you transplant someones brain structure(including memories in the neural synapses) into another body, you also transplant their soul, personality or whatever you want to call it

 

[Jediah]

i say that it is the sage of six path...there was a hint that kabuto gave us"dont worry i didnt tell anyone else" i doubt that would be madara's bro,no one cares about madara's bro. could be the first cause he was famous but that would be a shock to leaf cause they knew orochimaru did it once so i thought it has to be someone who is super famous and thats the sage of six path the hint that i wrote above would be most fitting to the sage because it was said that he was a legend it would be him that will shock everyone.madara even said "how did you do this" and that kabuto was a"madman"..so give it a thought which could be so shocking to madara that he says that kabuto is a madman. and obviously that person is strong enough to make madara forcefully accept kabuto..to me its no other than the sage himself.

If Kabuto did summon the Sage of Six paths, that would tie in well with the story:

The sage of six paths was the Juubi host, and Madara wants to become the Juubi host as a part of his moons-eye plan.

As you said, Madara called Kabuto a "madman", which makes the theory seem a little more possible. But even then, Kabuto would still need the soul of the SO6P to do that technique - if no-one knows what he looked like, how hard do you think it would be to find his soul in the afterlife?

I'm not sure - maybe Kabuto had help from Orochimaru or something like that, but I'm not entirely sure he could find SO6P and summon him on his own. That just seems ridiculously awesome - even for Kabuto.


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Kabuto could have summoned the first Hokage:

I seem to remember that Madara is only a shell of his former self - no where near as powerful as he used to be. With that in mind, the reincarnation of his old enemy would surely put him into shock:

The first hokage defeat Madara when he was at the height of his power, so he could easily defeat Madara now - even if he was just a reincarnation.

Another thing to consider is that Orochimaru was already able to use this summon, so Kabuto doing it is not far fetched and is entirely plausible.

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Kabuto may have even summoned Madara's brother:

Madara's brother probably wouldn't be a match for Madara, but still, he is his brother - maybe Madara just didn't want to fight against his own kin.

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Finally, does anyone think that maybe Kabuto summoned someone we don't already know about?

Naruto's world is a big place - there could be stacks of powerful ninja we have never heard of.

Killerbee is a good example - we only just found out about him recently and already it seems like he is one of the most powerful ninja in the entire series.

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It seems there are too many possibilities to narrow it down at this point.

 

[Brain]

There is something i cant understand....madara used to b as strong as hashirama but afterthat he gain his EMS by taking his bro's eyes and even be able to summon 9 tail during the last battle with hashirama how did he lose..
this is what i mean

Now assume that Madara power is 1000 hashirama's also around 1000 since they were both about the same strong then madara improve to 1500 by gaining EMS and got another 500 with 9 tail summoning bcome 2000 total power and how did hashirama who was still having his same 1000 power defeated madara. no clue at all

 

[cryhwks]

Well for 1 thing the Kyuubi was pretty much useless against the 1st because of his wood style & then i think it comes down to why Naruto always find's a way to beat most of his opponents & what the 3rd tried to tell Orochimaru the the true power of a shinobi emerges when they protect something/someone precious to them the 1st was fighting for all of Konoha Madara fights only for himself

 

[Brain]

What kind of rubbish is that. This is probably the most stupid answer i ever heard of.

 

[yondaimeminato]

But will the corpses work when itachi and pain's soul enter another corpse without sharingan and rinnegan?

that is a good question and there isn't really a right answer to this because it hasn't been stated yet.

We don't know for certain if they will get the ocular powers and figure (sharingan) and (rinnegan). The only thing we have left to do is wait until they open their eyes. But if you want my guess then i would say Yes, I believe they would also have the sharingan and rinnegan because that too is a physical appearance.

 

[meercy]

Now assume that Madara power is 1000 hashirama's also around 1000 since they were both about the same strong then madara improve to 1500 by gaining EMS and got another 500 with 9 tail summoning bcome 2000 total power and how did hashirama who was still having his same 1000 power defeated madara. no clue at all

Well for 1 thing the Kyuubi was pretty much useless against the 1st because of his wood style

Plus he had the power to tame them like pets... So bringin kyuubi out was a waste of time....
If thats wat he did... But it also looked liked madara was usin kyubbi chakra as well...
so that would put more of an effect on wat ever skill he did have....

But you must understand this... The 1st had to have other powers no one knew about....
Just like the 2nd... B4 we seen him in action against Oro... Only thing was stated (i believe)...
Was they he was a water user who can change the whole surroundings wit water....
Nothin else was really shown... Untill the fight wit Oro...
Then he goes and use Eternal Darkness....

As far as madaras EMS... Yea he knew he had it but it wasnt mastered...
He didnt know wat he knows now.... So its an increase in power but not really...

 

[Brain]

that is a good question and there isn't really a right answer to this because it hasn't been stated yet.

We don't know for certain if they will get the ocular powers and figure (sharingan) and (rinnegan). The only thing we have left to do is wait until they open their eyes. But if you want my guess then i would say Yes, I believe they would also have the sharingan and rinnegan because that too is a physical appearance.

lol that would be abit wired if sasuke use itachi's sharingan power to fight with itachi himself while itachi is using it as well. cant b helped if no then those summoning itachi and pain back will b a waste so i guess they will still have thier eyes power.

 

[culinaryg]

ok right now im currently on page six near the top page n just had to comment b4 i forget it

madaras brother- doesnt seem likely cuz of the way tobi reacted

1st hokage - well i didnt like the idea cuz of the soul reaper business but then again Oro was about to summon the 4th

madara- a lot of u ppl forget that tobi wanted n did reveal his face to sasuke his mask dropped as he was burnin from amaterasu plus he really did seem like he was goin to reveal his real face ++ itachi only planned to activate the amaterasu once the MASK is off proving itachi knew wats under the mask....using face changin is possible but just doesnt seem like its goin to be dat lame

kabuto- well i still dont think edo tensei is Upgrade-able cuz all u do is summon the dead u dont add str N power to the dead i think kabuto simply meant he can summon way more than the previous edo tensei practitioners could ( he could do like 6 -7 summons)

so6p - hmhmmmmmml i dont think kabuto is in the whole so6p hype only madara n sasuke is (becuz they love the whole upgrading eye power thing) he really just wants sasukes eyes n revenge for his masters defeat. its hard to explain but i just dont think kabuto is thinkin about so6p
-he never wanted the kyuubi
-he never showed interest to any jyuubi motivations
-didnt seem to have plans on goin after pein for his eyes nor did tobi

 

[uhIpooped]

-_-? if that tobi thing had madaras conscience then it would have his soul making him madara making it impossible to summon madara through edo tensei .. a sould is nothing but a persons memory
personality .. soul conscience is all just memories stored together with reflexes .. thats all our personality is ... therefore if you transplant someones brain structure(including memories in the neural synapses) into another body, you also transplant their soul, personality or whatever you want to call it

What I meant was Zetsu "records".. If he made a Madara clone, ie: Tobi, At the time or before the true Madara died, Zetsu could have trained his Tobi with these "recordings".. And over time in essence became a 'Madara', as he claims to be. plus Tobi was introduced to Akatsuki by Zetsu . I'm not saying this IS what's going on ... Im merely speculating just like the rest of us.

 

[Brain]

Now i only see the possibility are for madara himself(if tobi is not madara),rikudo sage,jiraiya,and hanzo of the salamander unless he can summon the soul from the reaper's if no then all hokages shouldn't b available

 

[~ Killer S ~]

I think someone close to Madara

 

['-Hellknight-']

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Those red things would be something that would have been mentioned in the legends.

I mean they really stand out.

from everybody else what makes you think that its the six path sage??:flaw:

 

[Preta]

As much as I would love for it to be the So6P, it isn't. The obvious reason for that is that there is already a rinnegan user in this little corpse army--pain. Kishi will not throw two rinnegan users into a troop. Not only would it be a redundant mockery of something so rare, it would be overpowered and simply bad story telling.

It's not Madara's brother, because madara asked "where did you get that." I will assume that he knew where his own brother was buried...considering he did it.

It is not the 1st as he has already been raised and to raise him again would be? You got it! Redundant and bad story telling.

I would assume it is madara's real body, I have always said Tobi is obito, not because of the one eye(though that does help), but because of the damage shown on part of madara's face when we saw it in the manga. Damage that looked over-the-top for old age...and more like half of his face had had a rock ontop of it.

 

[Brain]

As much as I would love for it to be the So6P, it isn't. The obvious reason for that is that there is already a rinnegan user in this little corpse army--pain. Kishi will not throw two rinnegan users into a troop. Not only would it be a redundant mockery of something so rare, it would be overpowered and simply bad story telling.

It's not Madara's brother, because madara asked "where did you get that." I will assume that he knew where his own brother was buried...considering he did it.

It is not the 1st as he has already been raised and to raise him again would be? You got it! Redundant and bad story telling.

I would assume it is madara's real body, I have always said Tobi is obito, not because of the one eye(though that does help), but because of the damage shown on part of madara's face when we saw it in the manga. Damage that looked over-the-top for old age...and more like half of his face had had a rock ontop of it.

i thought obito has no more sharingan cause 1 is crushed and another 1 is with kakashi although his skills are abit like kakshi's. Still we need to find out how he deceive kisame when he show his face to him.

 

[Missing Uchiha]

i say that it is the sage of six path...there was a hint that kabuto gave us"dont worry i didnt tell anyone else" i doubt that would be madara's bro,no one cares about madara's bro. could be the first cause he was famous but that would be a shock to leaf cause they knew orochimaru did it once so i thought it has to be someone who is super famous and thats the sage of six path the hint that i wrote above would be most fitting to the sage because it was said that he was a legend it would be him that will shock everyone.madara even said "how did you do this" and that kabuto was a"madman"..so give it a thought which could be so shocking to madara that he says that kabuto is a madman. and obviously that person is strong enough to make madara forcefully accept kabuto..to me its no other than the sage himself.

lol noby cares about madars bro

 

[Missing Uchiha]

it was nagato itachi dederia and others i for got but it is in the manga

 

[diablo728]

I have a theory:
Honestly I think it is the real Madara. It's the only logical conclusion. Madara, as we know him, has dealt with ninja of insane caliber. You would have to be powerful and brilliant to do so. So who would be able to inspire the first genuine glimpse of fear we have seen from him? They would have to be exponentially more powerful The real Madara is the only answer. Not only would it completely undermine his plans, it would take away Madara's biggest weapon. The fear his mere name carries has saved him from having to fight. Thats why I think the body was Madara's body.