Uchiha420
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I know Kishi obv didnt intend for one single person to stand out as the main antagonist thats why the final battle had like 3 villains and a fourth one who was defeated right before that final stage. But if you had to choose one person to label as the MAIN villain, for example someone who doesnt know about Naruto asks you "so Naruto is the protagonist, whos the antagonist?" Who would you namedrop? The final arc had 4(I guess 5) major villains, Kaguya, Kabuto, Madara, Obito, and Black Zetsu if he counts. Ima go ahead and take out Kabuto as he obv was the one to get Izanami'd and taken out early, oh and Sasuke isnt a villain, hes just the other half of the Main Character who went the darker side, also Kaguya and BZ were so f*ckin rushed and pathetic Im not gonna even consider them central villains, Kishi just had to tie all loose ends and it makes sense to think of it like that because who started all the curse of hatred? Kaguya eating the fruit, so when the Uchihas main villains were dealt Kishi had to wrap everything up with Naruto.
All in all this is an Obito vs Madara as who should hold the title of Main Antagonist in Naruto. You could make two cases here, both which are valid, however, my answer isnt based on either of them.
1) The case for Obito: Series kicks off with 9 tails attack which is caused by him, killing Minato and Kushina, leaving Naruto as an outcast with no family, this 9 tails attack shakes up trust in Uchiha, Uchiha vs Leaf tension starts, Itachi is used to eliminate them for peace, guess who the other guy killing the Uchihas with Itachi, Obito, leaving Sasuke a mindf*cked kid with no family. Pulls all strings of the akatsuki, the big villain group, and was the one to resurrect the Juubi, and he was the first Juubi Jin. Not to mention he is basically Dark Naruto, so if Naruto personally had a main adversary, no question it would be Obito.
2) The case for Madara: Fakes his death, spends ages plotting in the shadows. Awakens Rinnegan, gives it to Nagato, who was to be used as a pawn later. Finds Obito, exploits the darkness in him, uses him as a pawn. One could also argue that the Masked Man was acting under Madara's will and he was even called Madara, which is why although the Masked Man would be revealed to be Obito, the whole time he was foreshadowing that Madara is gonna be the main villain in the series and he was just basically a messenger who later developed his own character when the mask came off. Once revived, he f*cks up the Kage, Sasuke, Naruto, Edo Hashirama, Edo Tobirama, Edo Minato, Gaara, Kakashi, Gai, Sakura, Bijuus, etc. His powers were that of a true final villain, plus he was the last one to finally die.
Both of these points are solid, but it all depends on how you want to look at it. In my opinion Tobi as the masked man foreshadowing Madara while that is true, it was also contributing alot to his character and how he rejected himself and the world. Obito also was the central villain that was orchestrating the whole series, and probably had a bigger DIRECT impact than Madara, because of his relationship with the Main Character. BUT Although the series is called Naruto, Naruto isnt the only character throughout the story. Thus Im going to have to give Madara the main villain title. He was the brains behind the series, and the things he did during his last fight gives him an edge over Obito. First of all this guy was causing bloodshed generations before Naruto and Sasuke were born, since Hashirama days. And hes not calling it quits just because he was defeated, if going by panel time he doesnt have as much as Obito, considering how alot of things are one way or another connected to him really makes sense out of why he was revived so late. The Rinnegan for one, the Uchiha curse, the Kyuubi. He was mentioned even before Tobi was revealed, thus he has been foreshadowed to appear one way or another. Sasuke is also an incarnation of Indra and Madara, and the connection between him and Madara solidifies Madara's importance. And finally what really gives him the edge, HE ACHIEVED HIS GOAL! He thrashed the bijuus, kages and edo kages, Naruto, Sasuke and others like nothing, and he was able to activate infinite tsukuyomi. Kishi was really rushing the series at the end that he moved on to Kaguya to tie all loose ends quickly after he activates IT, otherwise he woulda took those extra 11-12 chapters to seal not Kaguya.
TL;DR: Obito is the 'central' villain, the orchestra, while Madara is the Main Villain, the one who set everything up.
All in all this is an Obito vs Madara as who should hold the title of Main Antagonist in Naruto. You could make two cases here, both which are valid, however, my answer isnt based on either of them.
1) The case for Obito: Series kicks off with 9 tails attack which is caused by him, killing Minato and Kushina, leaving Naruto as an outcast with no family, this 9 tails attack shakes up trust in Uchiha, Uchiha vs Leaf tension starts, Itachi is used to eliminate them for peace, guess who the other guy killing the Uchihas with Itachi, Obito, leaving Sasuke a mindf*cked kid with no family. Pulls all strings of the akatsuki, the big villain group, and was the one to resurrect the Juubi, and he was the first Juubi Jin. Not to mention he is basically Dark Naruto, so if Naruto personally had a main adversary, no question it would be Obito.
2) The case for Madara: Fakes his death, spends ages plotting in the shadows. Awakens Rinnegan, gives it to Nagato, who was to be used as a pawn later. Finds Obito, exploits the darkness in him, uses him as a pawn. One could also argue that the Masked Man was acting under Madara's will and he was even called Madara, which is why although the Masked Man would be revealed to be Obito, the whole time he was foreshadowing that Madara is gonna be the main villain in the series and he was just basically a messenger who later developed his own character when the mask came off. Once revived, he f*cks up the Kage, Sasuke, Naruto, Edo Hashirama, Edo Tobirama, Edo Minato, Gaara, Kakashi, Gai, Sakura, Bijuus, etc. His powers were that of a true final villain, plus he was the last one to finally die.
Both of these points are solid, but it all depends on how you want to look at it. In my opinion Tobi as the masked man foreshadowing Madara while that is true, it was also contributing alot to his character and how he rejected himself and the world. Obito also was the central villain that was orchestrating the whole series, and probably had a bigger DIRECT impact than Madara, because of his relationship with the Main Character. BUT Although the series is called Naruto, Naruto isnt the only character throughout the story. Thus Im going to have to give Madara the main villain title. He was the brains behind the series, and the things he did during his last fight gives him an edge over Obito. First of all this guy was causing bloodshed generations before Naruto and Sasuke were born, since Hashirama days. And hes not calling it quits just because he was defeated, if going by panel time he doesnt have as much as Obito, considering how alot of things are one way or another connected to him really makes sense out of why he was revived so late. The Rinnegan for one, the Uchiha curse, the Kyuubi. He was mentioned even before Tobi was revealed, thus he has been foreshadowed to appear one way or another. Sasuke is also an incarnation of Indra and Madara, and the connection between him and Madara solidifies Madara's importance. And finally what really gives him the edge, HE ACHIEVED HIS GOAL! He thrashed the bijuus, kages and edo kages, Naruto, Sasuke and others like nothing, and he was able to activate infinite tsukuyomi. Kishi was really rushing the series at the end that he moved on to Kaguya to tie all loose ends quickly after he activates IT, otherwise he woulda took those extra 11-12 chapters to seal not Kaguya.
TL;DR: Obito is the 'central' villain, the orchestra, while Madara is the Main Villain, the one who set everything up.
madaras an anti jaraiya. and bz takes the villian spotlight away from them at the end as a true enemy of shinobi
