So who can we label as THE MAIN antagonist in Naruto?

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I know Kishi obv didnt intend for one single person to stand out as the main antagonist thats why the final battle had like 3 villains and a fourth one who was defeated right before that final stage. But if you had to choose one person to label as the MAIN villain, for example someone who doesnt know about Naruto asks you "so Naruto is the protagonist, whos the antagonist?" Who would you namedrop? The final arc had 4(I guess 5) major villains, Kaguya, Kabuto, Madara, Obito, and Black Zetsu if he counts. Ima go ahead and take out Kabuto as he obv was the one to get Izanami'd and taken out early, oh and Sasuke isnt a villain, hes just the other half of the Main Character who went the darker side, also Kaguya and BZ were so f*ckin rushed and pathetic Im not gonna even consider them central villains, Kishi just had to tie all loose ends and it makes sense to think of it like that because who started all the curse of hatred? Kaguya eating the fruit, so when the Uchihas main villains were dealt Kishi had to wrap everything up with Naruto.

All in all this is an Obito vs Madara as who should hold the title of Main Antagonist in Naruto. You could make two cases here, both which are valid, however, my answer isnt based on either of them.

1) The case for Obito: Series kicks off with 9 tails attack which is caused by him, killing Minato and Kushina, leaving Naruto as an outcast with no family, this 9 tails attack shakes up trust in Uchiha, Uchiha vs Leaf tension starts, Itachi is used to eliminate them for peace, guess who the other guy killing the Uchihas with Itachi, Obito, leaving Sasuke a mindf*cked kid with no family. Pulls all strings of the akatsuki, the big villain group, and was the one to resurrect the Juubi, and he was the first Juubi Jin. Not to mention he is basically Dark Naruto, so if Naruto personally had a main adversary, no question it would be Obito.

2) The case for Madara: Fakes his death, spends ages plotting in the shadows. Awakens Rinnegan, gives it to Nagato, who was to be used as a pawn later. Finds Obito, exploits the darkness in him, uses him as a pawn. One could also argue that the Masked Man was acting under Madara's will and he was even called Madara, which is why although the Masked Man would be revealed to be Obito, the whole time he was foreshadowing that Madara is gonna be the main villain in the series and he was just basically a messenger who later developed his own character when the mask came off. Once revived, he f*cks up the Kage, Sasuke, Naruto, Edo Hashirama, Edo Tobirama, Edo Minato, Gaara, Kakashi, Gai, Sakura, Bijuus, etc. His powers were that of a true final villain, plus he was the last one to finally die.

Both of these points are solid, but it all depends on how you want to look at it. In my opinion Tobi as the masked man foreshadowing Madara while that is true, it was also contributing alot to his character and how he rejected himself and the world. Obito also was the central villain that was orchestrating the whole series, and probably had a bigger DIRECT impact than Madara, because of his relationship with the Main Character. BUT Although the series is called Naruto, Naruto isnt the only character throughout the story. Thus Im going to have to give Madara the main villain title. He was the brains behind the series, and the things he did during his last fight gives him an edge over Obito. First of all this guy was causing bloodshed generations before Naruto and Sasuke were born, since Hashirama days. And hes not calling it quits just because he was defeated, if going by panel time he doesnt have as much as Obito, considering how alot of things are one way or another connected to him really makes sense out of why he was revived so late. The Rinnegan for one, the Uchiha curse, the Kyuubi. He was mentioned even before Tobi was revealed, thus he has been foreshadowed to appear one way or another. Sasuke is also an incarnation of Indra and Madara, and the connection between him and Madara solidifies Madara's importance. And finally what really gives him the edge, HE ACHIEVED HIS GOAL! He thrashed the bijuus, kages and edo kages, Naruto, Sasuke and others like nothing, and he was able to activate infinite tsukuyomi. Kishi was really rushing the series at the end that he moved on to Kaguya to tie all loose ends quickly after he activates IT, otherwise he woulda took those extra 11-12 chapters to seal not Kaguya.

TL;DR: Obito is the 'central' villain, the orchestra, while Madara is the Main Villain, the one who set everything up.
 

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"The coolest guy can't be the main antagonist"-nardo
 

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I'll still always see it as Obito. He was there at the start and the logical end.

It's not Sasuke it's not Madara....technically it IS Kaguya & Zetsu.

(This makes even more sense when you think of them as one being like in my Homonculus theory)
 

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The main antagonist is not a person, or a group of people. Its an idea. Love. Pain, Obito, Madara. They did what they did for love.
 

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obito is the main antagonist as his actions had a direct and indirect effect on the 3 main characters (sakura is a side imho) lives


obito is the reason why kakashi is the way he is
obito is the reason why sasuke is the way he is
obito is the reason why naruto is the way he is
 

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obito was like the main characters hurdle and had the most develoment so him :p madaras an anti jaraiya. and bz takes the villian spotlight away from them at the end as a true enemy of shinobi

mostly uchiha angst
 
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I'd would say Black Zetsu is the true Central Villain. He was there from the end of Part 1 when Sasuke Vs Naruto takes place. He's the one who started this whole mess causing war and more bloodshed. The whole point of this series is that Madara and Hashirama Coo-peration would've find true peace and make the world a better place not until Madara read the Monument stone which Goes to the hand of Black Zetsu.

Basically everything all started because Black Zetsu Orchestrated during the reincarnation, during when he was akatsuki and the fourth great ninja war which everything led to Naruto vs Sasuke.

Black Zetsu is the True Mastermind villain.
 

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There's no way you can call Madara the main villain. If you want the one with the biggest impact on the plot, that's Obito. If you want the one who set everything up, the only puppet master without strings, that's Black Zetsu. All Madara had was the best hair, and he lost that becoming Juubi Jin.
 

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The final villain is clearly Black Zetsu/Kaguya (Regardless of the hate). It was Kaguya who started everything and manipulated everything from the start to finish.

In my opinion calling Madara a Villain kinda dilutes his character. For his role in the plot Madara is best called a fallen hero along with Obito.

The true final villain of Naruto Part 2 will always be Kaguya, no one else can take that position.
 

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It was Obito.
Reasons:
1)Obito was the one who was responsible for the death of Minato and Kushina
2)He manipulated Pain and gathered all the bijus and created evil Akatsuki.
3)he manipulated everyone(Itachi, Kisame, Kages etc) by sayin he was madara and started 4th shinobi war.
4)He was the evil version of Naruto.
5)Main line of Naruto; Next Gen will surpass Previous Gen will only be justified if Naruto and Sasuke had fought Obito not Kaguya or Madara.
6)He was restricted all throughout the war arc(cannot use kamui dimension, didnot use rinnegan tech., his sharingan didnot mutated) if he was not restricted he would have been even stronger opponent then Madara.
Why not Madara or kaguya
Reasons:
1)Madara was full of asspulls(he can go to kamuiland(obito cant), use limbo(pain cant),got that 3rd eye(obito didnot got it) etc)
2)He was brought in his prime age which was never done before
3)kabuto couldnot control edo madara but oro can control edo hashi
4)Main line Previous gen surpaas next gen doesnot makes sense then.
and kaguya makes no sense. She was brought so that kishi can make lame movies like last.
 
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Kishi would have you believe that war and conflict were the true antagonists of the series. At least, that's what he said when the manga finished. Too bad he tied up his series with an overblown, overstuffed war arc, that spoiled the potential for a meaningful ending.
 

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I feel inclined to say obito because he is the antagonist that had a direct hand in literally every major event that shapes the series but even he was revealed to be just a pawn in the end so calling him the MAIN would be stretching it.I think he's better labeled as the MAJOR antagonist.
as for the main I think that accolade belongs only to kaguya as she was the one who started everything and was actually the only with truly villainous plans.the rest, excluding BZ,simply had unorthodox ways of attaining peace
 
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