so who can beat dbz

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The first line is just that - the no limits fallacy.

117. No - limits fallacy (NLF)

This is when someone states that because something has not demonstrated any limits (or only certain limits) then it has none (or only the ones demonstrated).

Example: "Itachi said that no one without a Mangekyou Sharingan can defeat him. Therefore he can beat all of DC, Marvel, DBZ, and Tenchi Muyo."

The person in this argument holds Itachi's statement to be absolute truth, ignoring the possibility that Itachi has no knowledge of certain enemies, or never expected to encounter them. The same can be said of Kishimoto: He never intended for his characters to be pitted in battle against characters from other works of fiction, so therefore statements like this do not hold true to other works of fiction necessarily. Furthermore, there is the possibility that in - universe, Itachi was lying, bluffing, misinformed, or deluded.
7. No - limits fallacy (NLF)

This is when someone states that because something has not demonstrated any limits (or only certain limits) then it has none (or only the ones demonstrated).

Example: "Itachi said that no one without a Mangekyou Sharingan can defeat him. Therefore he can beat all of DC, Marvel, DBZ, and Tenchi Muyo."

The person in this argument holds Itachi's statement to be absolute truth, ignoring the possibility that Itachi has no knowledge of certain enemies, or never expected to encounter them. The same can be said of Kishimoto: He never intended for his characters to be pitted in battle against characters from other works of fiction, so therefore statements like this do not hold true to other works of fiction necessarily. Furthermore, there is the possibility that in - universe, Itachi was lying, bluffing, misinformed, or deluded.
Briefly put - a logical fallacy where just because no limits were shown or stated, or a feat/phenomenon is stated at no limits, it doesn't have any limits whatsoever despite any sort of circumstances they might run into.

Using this logic, you practically say Saitama's punching ability which can beat any foe is over any type of durability or state, and with his punches he can defeat abstract foes that are living concepts, and noncorporeal/intangible beings that have no body, beings that can survive cosmic aspects like supernovae and being hit by the big bang, universal sized foes, foes made of complete energy, foes with multiversal or even dimensional durability, etc.

The shadows isn't a quantifiable speed feat, you can't scale or determine the mach number he was moving at in that feat or how fast it truly is, it can't be scaled. The best calculable feat he has shown in the speed department was moving fast enough to catch up and break the meteor coming into space, easily into the mach 100s-1,000. Even still, in short fight bursts Goku and Frieza had disappeared from king kai's eyesight, who could track the saiyan pods that can travel far distances in space within a years time. Even piccolo busted a moon with a ki blasts in an extremely short timeframe, vegeta shot a final flash far into space, they've reacted to the same such ki blast attacks.

Without baring his fangs? Okay, so it scales him at planet level+ or bare minimum large planet level, just because it seemed to be done casually doesn't mean it's raised by an incredible level. Hell, it takes about 57.3 zettatons to bust earth, 2.7 yottatons for jupiter, that alone is a huge difference. As for that being sad, DBZ has been large planet level+ since frieza.
 

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It stops at "Omnipotent" bro. Nothing is above "omnipotent" and if it is, it would make that thing that is "omnipotent" not "omnipotent" because nothing is above "omnipotent". Can't be above "omnipotent" because "omnipotent" basically means "THE ONE ABOVE ALL". And you can't have something above "THE ONE ABOVE ALL" and if you do. That would make the "THE ONE ABOVE ALL" not the "THE ONE ABOVE ALL" because something/someone is above it. And it's impossible to be above "THE ONE ABOVE ALL"


So that would make it IMPOSSIBLE for BUU to be "omnipotent" because he was DEFEATED
 
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It stops at "Omnipotent" bro. Nothing is above "omnipotent" and if it is, it would make that thing that is "omnipotent" not "omnipotent" because nothing is above "omnipotent". Can't be above "omnipotent" because "omnipotent" basically means "THE ONE ABOVE ALL". And you can't have something above "THE ONE ABOVE ALL" and if you do. That would make the "THE ONE ABOVE ALL" not the "THE ONE ABOVE ALL" because something/someone is above it. And it's impossible to be above "THE ONE ABOVE ALL"


So that would make it IMPOSSIBLE for BUU to be "omnipotent" because he was DEFEATED
doesnt matter it shows that vegetto is stronger than buuhan whos omnipotent therefore he is above omnipotent.
also buuhan never got defeated because his fusion ran out, and he transformed back into kid buu.
 
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Stop arguing with this terrible troll. From his constant posts you can tell he does nothing but fail troll this site, in fact he is trying to troll shuma, another troll right now.

This isn't 2013 - he doesn't even do a good rip off of GOT/NF's Phenom Brigade. He can only dream of what GOT accomplished as a troll.
 
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It was a lie/exaggeration, apparently this type of occurence is only fictional now? Yep, the writers made up an exaggeration from obtained power and ego completely up. True manga phacts.

It's also totally true that super buu is omnipotent when bills who neg-diffs him has a percentage of power and already got beaten by gohan and technically gotenks, he also has infinite power and is a godly omniversal reality warper who is omnipresent and omniscient. Don't forget, he fights physically, so this is obviously true.
 
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well real life isnt fiction buddy. dbz is a manga its not meant to be realistic so i dont know what are you crying about?
what writer states, thats is true. so try again
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The writer states his invincibility, not omnipotent.
More credibility to mine is that it is the entire manga page, not just a snipet like yours is.

Lastly, Buu thinks he has just beaten everyone so of course he will say things like that. He thinks he is the strongest person there is, which at that point in time was true.


OT: Sonic Verse, Disney Verse, Looney Toons Verse, Digimon Verse, + What everyone else said.
 
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