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Seems a bit strange now wouldn't you say?
 

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Maybe it's roots go all throughout the world? Lol

Kishi sure screwed up on that one.
 

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Maybe it's roots go all throughout the world? Lol

Kishi sure screwed up on that one.

Lol.

I wouldn't be so quick to say its a screw up. But it certainly needs a little explaining...
 

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Well it probably went into the first "stages" when it pretty much waged war on humanity. Judging by its silhouette from the famous RS panel it looks more like the first Juubi we've seen. Meh I think it could easily be explained if needed unless I'm not getting the idea of this thread.
 

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Lol.

I wouldn't be so quick to say its a screw up. But it certainly needs a little explaining...

With the way Kishi has been explaining things lately, I don't think we'll get anything to help us out.
 

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Fans: Kishimoto, is the Juubi the creator of all chakra, the creator of the entire world, or is it both?
Kishimoto: Yes.
 

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It's still technically "one with the earth" given that chakra spawns from it. And that is what the Juubi did. Because the Juubi was manifested from the Shinju because of the hatred of Kaguya and it wanting revenge for stealing chakra. What Kurama is talking about is what the Juubi was capable of. But the Juubi is simply a by-product of the Shinju.
 

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It's still technically "one with the earth" given that chakra spawns from it. And that is what the Juubi did. Because the Juubi was manifested from the Shinju because of the hatred of Kaguya and it wanting revenge for stealing chakra. What Kurama is talking about is what the Juubi was capable of. But the Juubi is simply a by-product of the Shinju.

Hmm, I don't know. It seemed like Kurama was directly talking about things the Juubi had done. While, of course, he could have meant, "this is what it is capable of" I think he was actually referring to "Nature" and what it does. Nature splits oceans, carries mountains, etc. I think the Tree is basically the personification of "Mother Nature" and as we've seen with countless civilizations...nature is worshipped.
 

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Well it probably went into the first "stages" when it pretty much waged war on humanity. Judging by its silhouette from the famous RS panel it looks more like the first Juubi we've seen. Meh I think it could easily be explained if needed unless I'm not getting the idea of this thread.

Well...if we got by what has been said by Madara. The "Juubi" came to be only after the fruit was taken. We can't say long it assumed that form, but it couldn't have been too long before it was sealed by the Sage. When exactly would it have accomplished all theses feats again?
 

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Hmm, I don't know. It seemed like Kurama was directly talking about things the Juubi had done. While, of course, he could have meant, "this is what it is capable of" I think he was actually referring to "Nature" and what it does. Nature splits oceans, carries mountains, etc. I think the Tree is basically the personification of "Mother Nature" and as we've seen with countless civilizations...nature is worshipped.


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This is what I mean: "However the God Tree got mad and wanted to get the chakra back.... That was the Juubi"

The Juubi is what the God Tree sentience is. Its mobile body.
 

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the juubi is the form the god tree took when it attacked
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the juubi is the form the god tree took when it attacked
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Right...but how does a tree split oceans, carries mountains, do all those things? Was Kurama simply referring to the short period in which it attacked the Sage and was sealed?
 

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It's been said that the fruit is not to be touched, but how would anyone know that? My guess is that through the millenniums, some have taken it before; unleashing the juubi upon the world. It may have been during these times it did such things.
 

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It's been said that the fruit is not to be touched, but how would anyone know that? My guess is that through the millenniums, some have taken it before; unleashing the juubi upon the world. It may have been during these times it did such things.

I agree...Sort of.

I think there were people (or some one) who knew exactly what the fruit would do. And why not to touch it (meaning it had happened before).
 

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The Juubi is more than capable of those feats wether it's in it's final form or its lesser forms.

And when you think about it, the tree really is the Progenitor. It's nature itself
 
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