So this is BSM naruto VS Rikodou Powered Sasuke?

[DaileyM]

yass, Naruto is too much for that fodder.

 

[Apêx1]

Yes, BSM Naruto with Rikudo's chakra, TSB, all Bijuu's and all the constituent techniques that come along with the things I listed. Spot on brah.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

Yeah, that's an old and tired debate around here....what constitutes as naruto's power(when he has been an example of shared power the entire time) and what constitutes as sasuke's power(when he has always tried to rely on only himself)?

I could go back and forth with you over this but it has been argued and re-argued too many times and everyone knows all the major talking points so I'll let it pass.

Basically, it is an entity outside of yourself, that is producing the power that constitutes someone else's power, regardless if it is within you or not. Sasuke's power is all his, his sharingan is a natural power all Uchihas have. That's the simple explanation of it.

 

[flyboyissac]

Sasuke nor Naruto has that Charka Hagoromo gave them

 

[Mr Hiru]

Sasuke nor Naruto has that Charka Hagoromo gave them

I don't know. I only know that Hagoromo got the seals back, but not the chakra. Rikudou Mode/Sasuke's Rinnegan is the proof of this.

If you were right, then we don't know how is that Naruto can use Truth Seeking Balls.

 

[SasukexNeji]

If this battle turns to pure taijutsu soon, or ends with mostly taijutsu and then a chidori vs rasengan... with no winner revealed, as the cliff-hanger for the movie. Yeah, I'll take it.

 

[jiraiya nindo]

Basically, it is an entity outside of yourself, that is producing the power that constitutes someone else's power, regardless if it is within you or not. Sasuke's power is all his, his sharingan is a natural power all Uchihas have. That's the simple explanation of it.

Even sasuke has an external power....EMS. he literally has someone else's eyes in his skull.

The same way that sasuke being an uchiha allows him to do that, naruto being an uzumaki allows him to house the bijuu(which is no easy feat).

 

[goldendookie]

this is rikodou naruto, look at his back

 

[Legitbeans]

I wont agree or disagree, but I will say this:
Naruto always had Kurama avatar. When he was in BM, he used kurama avatar. Now with sage powers, he is still using the same one.
On the other hand, Sasuke had a regular susanoo before hand. Now, with the rinnegan, his susanoo is powered up to PS.
Yet, Naruto's Kurama, which he has been using before Rikuudou mode, can fight on the same level as Sasuke's powered up PS.
So by this logic, at the very least, Naruto BM/BSM = Sasuke with Rikuddou

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

He still had truth seeking balls indicating he still has rikudo power up. Why would he lose it when Sasuke kept the rinnegan? Fail thread

 

[Ambivalence]

The same way that sasuke being an uchiha allows him to do that, naruto being an uzumaki allows him to house the bijuu(which is no easy feat).

What? This makes zero sense, it's like you're saying the Bijus are exclusive to Uzumaki. Unlike the Sharingan for the Uchiha, the Biju aren't an Uzumaki's birthright - they aren't born with Biju power in them, thus they cannot be considered part of their own power, not to mention the Tailed Beasts are seperate, living entities. There are only 3 known Uzumaki hosts, anyway.

But you're right about Sasuke's EMS, those are Itachi's eyes...

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

Even sasuke has an external power....EMS. he literally has someone else's eyes in his skull.

The same way that sasuke being an uchiha allows him to do that, naruto being an uzumaki allows him to house the bijuu(which is no easy feat).

Sasuke is using his brother's eyes to retain his sight for the mangekyou, while also enjoying the power boost it gives, as Sasuke was completely against using Itachi's eyes before he went blind. Though it is true he has itachi's power on top of his own now, it's still sharingan, no other separate entity lending the power, his and itachi's eyes became one, transformed, like madara and izuna's eyes, however naruto has kurama and the other beasts, all separate entities... thus, those entities are not his, they are a borrowed power.

And naruto is not the only one who can do so. Bee can as well, and I would argue people like orochimaru, sasuke, tobirama, hashirama, madara (proven, though obvious), minato (proven, but also obvious), kakashi, nagato, and itachi can also do the exact same feats as naruto. Naruto isn't the most powerful, he is gifted yes, just like the others listed above, but that is all. They all have their weaknesses, as itachi stated, "Every jutsu has a weakness". That goes for people and things in life, as well.