So this chapter confirms juha Bach/buck beard>base aizen

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I feel like this chapter confirms that juha Bach who is known as buck beard is better than base aizen. I believe this because base aizen even said that Yamamoto is prob stronger than him, and Yamamoto didn't even need bankai against aizen, but he knows that he needs it against juha Bach, so do you agree with juha Bach>base aizen?
 
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It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that Juha is stronger than Aizen. I can't believe that this question is still around to be honest.

Yamamoto was stronger than Aizen.
Juha is on Yamamoto's level.
 
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Do you think he can beat aizen in his transformations?
Aizen was a hax character. He's immortal and as long as the hogyoku doesn't reject him he's almost unbeatable because of the uniqueness of his basic release. That doesn't however, make him 'stronger'.

Different enemies have different ways of being taken down. Aizen's downfall was a superior intelligence in Uraharra, whereas this guy seems to be someone to fight against with power because he's so powerful himself.
 

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Aizen was a hax character. He's immortal and as long as the hogyoku doesn't reject him he's almost unbeatable because of the uniqueness of his basic release. That doesn't however, make him 'stronger'.

Different enemies have different ways of being taken down. Aizen's downfall was a superior intelligence in Uraharra, whereas this guy seems to be someone to fight against with power because he's so powerful himself.
Who do you think will win the fight, yammamoto or juha Bach?
 

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By no means does this mean that Bach is stronger. With aizen, yamamoto had a plan that required his own DEATH to take out aizen. With Bach, yamamoto doesn't have a plan and the fight is on a more personal level, so that is why he released his bankai.
 

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I don't understand why people are assuming that Yamamoto is going to beat Bach since if anything Bach didn't seem scared or intimidated we haven't even seen anything from Bach, to be perfectly honest I think Bach will defeat Yama as it will be the perfect time for zero squad to make an appearance.

Now people should know Yama/Bach>Base Aizen.

The only reason Yama lost to Aizen was because of Wonderwiess sealed his Zanpaktou's powers however the I'm not certain whether Yama or Bach would win the monster version of Aizen but where not going to see that battle so it doesn't matter.
 

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I don't understand why people are assuming that Yamamoto is going to beat Bach since if anything Bach didn't seem scared or intimidated we haven't even seen anything from Bach, to be perfectly honest I think Bach will defeat Yama as it will be the perfect time for zero squad to make an appearance.
If Byakuya were to release his Bankai in Kenpachi's face he wouldn't be scared or intimidated either. It's because they are on the same level. This is how I see Juha and Yama. They're both able to take each other on so there's no point in being scared. Especially not for seasoned fighters like them.

In all seriousness though, I do think Yama is going to be neutralized in some way. But for god sakes I hope we actually get to see him FIGHT. I'm getting tired of Kubo's stupidass habit of skipping fights. He skipped Kensei's fight with Wonderweis and he skipped Rose's fight against the Stern Ritter. This can only suggest that Rose was beaten, which is stupid because we didn't get to see anything.

I don't care why he's doing this. He just better cut it out if he wants to keep Bleach at the level it's at.
 

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If Byakuya were to release his Bankai in Kenpachi's face he wouldn't be scared or intimidated either. It's because they are on the same level. This is how I see Juha and Yama. They're both able to take each other on so there's no point in being scared. Especially not for seasoned fighters like them.

In all seriousness though, I do think Yama is going to be neutralized in some way. But for god sakes I hope we actually get to see him FIGHT. I'm getting tired of Kubo's stupidass habit of skipping fights. He skipped Kensei's fight with Wonderweis and he skipped Rose's fight against the Stern Ritter. This can only suggest that Rose was beaten, which is stupid because we didn't get to see anything.

I don't care why he's doing this. He just better cut it out if he wants to keep Bleach at the level it's at.
Yeah but in fairness Byakuya and Kenpachi are on the same level ( of course Byakuya would need his Bankai to keep up with Kenpachi though).

I'm just saying that if the strongest shinigami for what 2000 years was it just released his bankai and was about to battle you, I'm certain you would sweat or at least look worried but when I look at it, it seems Juha seems to have been expecting it or at least knows the level of Yama's power.
 

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Yeah but in fairness Byakuya and Kenpachi are on the same level ( of course Byakuya would need his Bankai to keep up with Kenpachi though).

I'm just saying that if the strongest shinigami for what 2000 years was it just released his bankai and was about to battle you, I'm certain you would sweat or at least look worried but when I look at it, it seems Juha seems to have been expecting it or at least knows the level of Yama's power.
Well that's exactly my point. From what we've been told so far Juha Bach is on Yamamoto's level. Hence, why Juha isn't scared. Yamamoto is said to be the strongest Shinigami in the past few thousand years, but who's to say that Juha being a Quincy can't match him? He and Juha had a battle 1000 years ago and Juha survived. That's enough to suggest that Juha can go toe to toe with Yama, for me anyways.
 
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