So tell me now why you all cast aside the anime, like if it isn't cannon.

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In creating an anime or an animation there are many steps to be done and things that need to play out.

Now in the pocess of making an animation/anime there is pre and post production.

And one step under pre production there is Story boarding.

Now what is story boarding and about it:
The Storyboard helps to finalize the development of the storyline, and is an essential stage of the animation process. It is made up of drawings in the form of a comic strip, and is used to both help visualise the animation and to communicate ideas clearly. It details the scene and changes in the animation, often accompanied by text notes describing things occurring within the scene itself, such as camera movements.

Not only can storyboards be especially useful when working in group environments (something quite common in the animation industry,) but they also provide a visual reminder of the original plan; something that can be referred back to throughout the production.

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So now what can you tell me about story boarding??? well i would like you all to see that story boarding in the production of anime comes in the form of a Manga. Yes they take their story board and publish it in the process they are making money $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, so it makes sense that they publish their story board(the manga). But besides this people act like the manga is cannon but that is wrong the manga which is the story board soul purpose is dedicated towards the creation of the animation (re-read what i had in the spoiler tag that will tell you what is for in a lengthened version).

SO the manga is cannon only when the exact same thing from the manga is displayed in the anime but if they add on things and what not that should not be disregarded that is cannon also or if they change things in it then the manga well that chapter may not be cannon as a whole some parts may be cannon and some may not be. The anime is cannon with the exception of fillers. See i am sure most people may have noticed they changed some things and they add on things in the anime and that sometimes it may be different from the manga cause that is the time the final product things needs to be fixed and what not. So it would differ from the manga cause the manga is just a guide in creating the anime and some times things needs changing and so on. So in no way one should cast aside the anime as if it makes no sense and it isn't cannon. so when some one brings up something from the anime in a discussion that is not part of a filler it should not be disregarded.

Most here just watch the anime for the fights and what not and then they push the anime aside and get back to reading the manga. But i just want you to see that the anime is the real thing the final thingy and it is cannon through and through with the exception of fillers but fillers in a way can't be disregarded also it would show us ideas the writer or who ever has. Look in the fillers Hinata was in it showed us abilities. And i am sure those were abilities kishi had in mind for her and i am sure he would like to use it or he had thought of giving here these abilities if it was cannon. See fillers give us something even though it isn't cannon. But we don't really need to get into that but you get what i am trying to say right.

Thanks for reading i wanted to get this straight cause some people don't understand this. If you disagree with me its fine I can't do any more than this, but still try and understand what I am trying to say here. :)
 
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Manga is the real deal. Its the medium the original writer and artist choses and is directly involved with it. Anime is just making more money out of it..... also the storyboard of the anime is not the manga, it had its own storyboard based on the manga...
btw there are many animes(like shaman king for example) where manga and anime are quite different...
in order to keep trace its easiest(and most logical) to say what the original writer makes is canon and only that(unless told otherwise lime battle of gods etc)
 
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If the anime adds stuff that wasnt originally from the manga or mangaka, then its not cannon. If it never happened in the creators story, then it never happened at all
 

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why should someone's else work be regarded as canon? kishi didnt direct said episode. kishi didnt help do the storyboard. therefor it is someone else work and not something kishi himself did
 

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Manga is the real deal. Its the medium the original writer and artist choses and is directly involved with it. Anime is just making more money out od it.....
Hmm... i agree with you on that last part but. IT is the opposite in reality the anime is making money but the manga is to make extra money it really doesn't need to be published as it is the story line and it isn't the final product the anime is the final product and it is cannon. But we all have our views on it :p

If the anime adds stuff that wasnt originally from the manga or mangaka, then its not cannon. If it never happened in the creators story, then it never happened at all
*facepalm* i failed so badly :p The creator is there when they make the anime so when he makes mistakes and he wants to change something it can be done as the anime is the final product.

why should someone's else work be regarded as canon? kishi didnt direct said episode. kishi didn't help do the storyboard. therefor it is someone else work and not something kishi himself did
Its his job and it isn't some one else work the anime is the deal the manga is just a guide in making it kishi is there when they make the anime so he can fix things and what not. Even though he doesn't make the anime its still his work being put out so umm i don't know :p
 

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I disagree, lets for example take Fairy Tail, those who follow both the manga and anime will get my point.

In the manga the fight between Erza and the 100 monsters in the Pandemonium happened in one panel. The anime studio created an entire episode based of that single panel. So in theory, you could call it an filler episode. However according to your words, this is actually canon, since it is made around a story board (although everything what happened was based on one panel).

Lets take Naruto as another example. In the anime there was a filler arc about Utakata "the jinchuuriki of the 6-tailed beast". In the episode when Naruto meets all the bijuus and their jinchuurikis, Naruto recognized Utakata. According to your logic, that means the filler arc is actually canon, since althought that scene didn't happened in the manga, the episode itself wasn't a filler.
 

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Yes, and many of those "adjustments" are non-cannon, again and I can't stress this enough, unless stated otherwise by Kishi himself (The author of the manga).
Nope they are cannon cause the anime is the final thing. The manga isn't the manga is just another way to make money they didn't need to publish it. The manga is just a guide. What i was trying to say up there was that the anime is cannon with the exception of fillers, even the addons and changes they make are cannon cause the anime is the final project. Tell me you kinda get what i am trying to say but i get you and many would prefer the manga over the anime cause its cannon to you but its not that way really i explained this above :p
 

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Nope they are cannon cause the anime is the final thing. The manga isn't the manga is just another way to make money they didn't need to publish it. The manga is just a guide. What i was trying to say up there was that the anime is cannon with the exception of fillers, even the addons and changes they make are cannon cause the anime is the final project. Tell me you kinda get what i am trying to say but i get you and many would prefer the manga over the anime cause its cannon to you but its not that way really i explained this above :p
The Anime is not the "Final project", it's an adaptation of the manga (Original story). It's the other way around, the Animation studios make filler to prolong the series and milk money, the author does it because they enjoy being a mangaka. If the author enjoys it they would write it regardless of money, but if an Animation studio was to not make money, they would not continue. I get what you are saying, but it's just not.
 

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I disagree, lets for example take Fairy Tail, those who follow both the manga and anime will get my point.

In the manga the fight between Erza and the 100 monsters in the Pandemonium happened in one panel. The anime studio created an entire episode based of that single panel. So in theory, you could call it an filler episode. However according to your words, this is actually canon, since it is made around a story board (although everything what happened was based on one panel).

Lets take Naruto as another example. In the anime there was a filler arc about Utakata "the jinchuuriki of the 6-tailed beast". In the episode when Naruto meets all the bijuus and their jinchuurikis, Naruto recognized Utakata. According to your logic, that means the filler arc is actually canon, since althought that scene didn't happened in the manga, the episode itself wasn't a filler.
I understand what you are saying but the amime is cannon through and through but i can't speak for fillers but i don't think that was a filler where he met utakata at all that would be the only reasonable explanation.

Most anime, comic, or nerds in general prefer the author's original work over anything else.
I get that, but i was just trying to point something out :)
 

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The Anime is not the "Final project", it's an adaptation of the manga (Original story). It's the other way around, the Animation studios make filler to prolong the series and milk money, the author does it because they enjoy being a mangaka. If the author enjoys it they would write it regardless of money, but if an Animation studio was to not make money, they would not continue. I get what you are saying, but it's just not.
The anime is the final project the manga is the story guide Lol the manga is the story board done by the author so they could make the anime if they didn't have a story board they couldn't make the anime so you see it is need for making the anime. But the anime is the final project :p and i get what you are saying but it isn't that way i didn't say fillers were cannon either but you explained i there thanks

But we both disagree with each other this is crazy :p
 
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