So SM Naruto's attacks are made out of Senjutsu?

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1) If that's not the case, what's the difference between his normal rasengan/SM Rasengan and why did it hurt Obito unlike countless other powerful attacks the Kages/Sasuke/Naruto were throwing at him?

2) If it is the case, why did his SM FRS not turn Madara and Preta path into stone since they absorbed those attacks?
 

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1) If that's not the case, what's the difference between his normal rasengan/SM Rasengan and why did it hurt Obito unlike countless other powerful attacks the Kages/Sasuke/Naruto were throwing at him?

2) If it is the case, why did his SM FRS not turn Madara and Preta path into stone since they absorbed those attacks?

senjutsu is still made of chakra, but sage mode is made out of nature chakra and absorbing that turns you in a frog statue if you can't control it
 

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natural energy was obviously included into naruto's rasengan which means it would have been stronger...

as for madara absorbing the attack there obviously wasnt enough natural energy in the attack for it to change them..

even nagato's path had to absorb a fair amount before it changed...
 

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senjutsu is still made of chakra, but sage mode is made out of nature chakra and absorbing that turns you in a frog statue if you can't control it

So if his Rasengan in SM was made out of regular chakra, why was it so special that it could hurt Obito in this previous chapter when all the other powerful attacks from Naruto, Sasuke, and the Kages could not?
 

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Possible answer would be that Obito's ability is a higher level than Madara's. It react directly. But like Itachi and like reality says. There is nothing, no object, no jutsu, no magic that does not have an negative effect. In this case it is Senjutsu for Obito. But it appears that his style he is using does as well block Taijutsu to reach him, meanwhile Madara's does not.

As well it stated that the ability seals the jutsu, in the narutopedia if I remember right. I was only Nagato's doll that absorbed it directly into himself. But in the Narutopedia if I remember right then it seals all jutsus.

Naruto Rasengan was made by Physical, Spiritual and Nature chakra, it's probably that Nature chakra is reflecting his shield ability or something.
 

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So if his Rasengan in SM was made out of regular chakra, why was it so special that it could hurt Obito in this previous chapter when all the other powerful attacks from Naruto, Sasuke, and the Kages could not?

naruto's rasengan while in sage mode consists of chakra mixed with natural energy .. making it a sage tech... sage techs work against obito because they arnt just pure chakra but also have that natural energy with them...
 

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1) If that's not the case, what's the difference between his normal rasengan/SM Rasengan and why did it hurt Obito unlike countless other powerful attacks the Kages/Sasuke/Naruto were throwing at him?

2) If it is the case, why did his SM FRS not turn Madara and Preta path into stone since they absorbed those attacks?

Normal rasengan uses ninjutsu which Obito can nullify since he has the power of the SO6P who created ninjutsu the SO6P didn't create senjutsu so that's his weaknes thats the difference between the two rasengans one uses ninjutsu one uses senjutsu
 

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naruto's rasengan while in sage mode consists of chakra mixed with natural energy .. making it a sage tech... sage techs work against obito because they arnt just pure chakra but also have that natural energy with them...

If they are sage tech then how come Preta Path absorbed FRS and so did Madara, and it did not turn them into stone?
 

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Rasengan is spinning chakra, if he was senjutsu chakra inside his body, it would only make sense that the rasengan is made up of that chakra.
 

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If they are sage tech then how come Preta Path absorbed FRS and so did Madara, and it did not turn them into stone?

like i said before.. u need a considerable amount of natural energy for it to turn u to stone...

even naruto when training had to absorb enough of it before even turning into a frog...

even nagato's path had to absorb enough from naruto before he stared turning into a frog...

there obviously wasnt enough natural energy in the attack for it to make a big difference against madara
 

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This would be my assumption...Senjutsu operates exactly like Frog Katama.

As such, instead of natural energy forming the attack, natural energy surrounds the ninjutsu.

As such, natural energy escorts the ninjutsu offering a more powerful attack.
 

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1) If that's not the case, what's the difference between his normal rasengan/SM Rasengan and why did it hurt Obito unlike countless other powerful attacks the Kages/Sasuke/Naruto were throwing at him?

2) If it is the case, why did his SM FRS not turn Madara and Preta path into stone since they absorbed those attacks?
Ans to ur 1st question
The difference is that the Senjutsu Rasengan expanded after contact
 

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Natural energy is only 1/3 part of the chakra that makes up senjutsu, and it is not a direct source, therefore it is very diluted by Narutos own chakra, making it not enough to really turn anyone to stone. Plus its just a limited amount of natural energy in that small attack compared to the infinite natural energy in the universe

The preta path actually had to absorb pure natural energy for a little while before he actually turned into stone, so its not like absorbing natural energy that has been diluted so much into a small attack is gonna instantly turn him into stone
 

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All Sage Mode Jutsus are powered by Natural Energy.
 

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Cause juubi is made out of nature chakra too

Juubi is made out of bijuu chakra :I chapter declaration of war said so, chapter 594 is the origin of the ten-tails the real deal and kurama himself said so, 610 is an incomplete present Not the real deal,

OT Naruto rasengan last chapter most likely was like this.

the senjutsu blocked the Obito's ninjutsu negating technique only... again it only blocks ninjutsu, that does not mean obito cant dream of blocking senjutsu..

By blocking the ninjutsu negation with senjutsu, Obito was no longer immune to ninjutsu and thus the rasengan hit him
 

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Juubi is made out of bijuu chakra :I chapter declaration of war said so, chapter 594 is the origin of the ten-tails the real deal and kurama himself said so, 610 is an incomplete present Not the real deal,

OT Naruto rasengan last chapter most likely was like this.

the senjutsu blocked the Obito's ninjutsu negating technique only... again it only blocks ninjutsu, that does not mean obito cant dream of blocking senjutsu..

By blocking the ninjutsu negation with senjutsu, Obito was no longer immune to ninjutsu and thus the rasengan hit him

This guy is smart, i agree with him
 
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