So Sasuke is law rip off now, how original kishi._.

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I am dying at the madara one, that guy lied. didn't he die because he couldn't tell the difference between the first clone LOL.

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or maybe its becuase he wasn't using the sharingan lol
 
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But anyways there are problems with your scan, sasuke wasn't using the sharingan in the first one, and madara well madara says alot of stuff, its prob true maybe he can detect which is a clone, but its probably be by other methods, I doubt the sharingan give you the power to tell which is a clone or which is not.
 

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Not exactly a rip off since Law's fruit is capable of doing much more such as bypassing durability of anything and everything within his Room, earth bending, levitation, mind/soul switching, and electricity. Not a complete ripoff.
 

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The dude who has the abilities of the Ope Ope no mi:

That is even more OP. Switching out someone's heart? Man. At least Sasuke is restricted to switching whole objects.
 

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Why does no one mention the fact that Gear 2nd is like the 8 gates which Naruto revealed first?(though Kaioken was probably the root inspiration)

Or color of observation Haki...Sasuke did this in the forest of death when he face orochimaru in disguise(even the fact that Killing intent increases the effectiveness of that Haki is the same as what was shown in Naruto part1)

Armament Haki a basic thing in Naruto even had Kakuzu's skin getting dark and coating weapons in chakra.

What happens to weak foes subjected to kings Haki looks suspiciously like what happened to Sakura after Kakashi's first genjutsu

point is does anyone really have room to cast stones?
 

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room is exactly what i thought too lol. law is cooler tho
 

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You tell me how does replacement jutsu work. How many times Naruto characters switched places with another object in nick of time and as far as I remember that was since part 1.

So how you can decide who copied from whom? Law was not introduced back then.

Only thing I see is that Sasuke has used it in a longer range and instead of a Log or wood clone like Yamato or Hashi used Sakura's jacket. Probably he used his teleportation techs to enhance it.

Ino has been using consciousness change since then as well. Or you will now tell me Kishi found a time machine and picked that from Law too in some way?

Seriously go and find the definition of rip off. Just last week someone was complaining that they do not see replacement jutsu at work anymore and now Sasuke used it in a new way and you drag Law in here.

I think you are talking about substitution jutsu.
Substitution jutsu have nothing to do with this.
How can you even compare substitution with law's technique?
wiki said:
The Ope Ope no Mi allows the user to manipulate anything within a specific area, such as people, cannonballs, and ships in what was described as a "surgical" manner, within a spherical territory bordered by a light blue aura. Through this ability, Law can dismember people from a distance without harming them, lift or displace objects of any size and switch peoples' "hearts", which is shown to effectively switch minds


Sasuke have been using this exactly like law uses his DF of course to a lesser extent.

To put it more bluntly :

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it is exact same shit.

Law have a "room" (space restriction) where his technque can work, same as sasuke.
Sasuke have also used it the exact same way to protect himself like law did.

There is literally no difference in law and sasuke's ability except the fact law has more to offer from it than sasuke.

And Ino takes over someone's mind , this is also completely different than what law does.
He switch two people's brain, ino takes over someone's brain.
Ino gains full control over the opponent unlike law.
Ino loses control over her own body unlike law.
Again, these two are not same , they are not even close to same thing.

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^ this explains law and sasuke very well.
Circle A is what sasuke can do with his ability.
Circle B is what law can do with his ability.

Note that Circle A lies within circle B , which means sasuke have only shown a portion of law's ability, which makes sense as its not been too long since he got his ability. We are not even sure if he can do as much as law.
But ...

The point still stands, it is still a rip off.
 

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I think you are talking about substitution jutsu.
Substitution jutsu have nothing to do with this.
How can you even compare substitution with law's technique?



Sasuke have been using this exactly like law uses his DF of course to a lesser extent.

To put it more bluntly :

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it is exact same shit.

Law have a "room" (space restriction) where his technque can work, same as sasuke.
Sasuke have also used it the exact same way to protect himself like law did.

There is literally no difference in law and sasuke's ability except the fact law has more to offer from it than sasuke.

And Ino takes over someone's mind , this is also completely different than what law does.
He switch two people's brain, ino takes over someone's brain.
Ino gains full control over the opponent unlike law.
Ino loses control over her own body unlike law.
Again, these two are not same , they are not even close to same thing.

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^ this explains law and sasuke very well.
Circle A is what sasuke can do with his ability.
Circle B is what law can do with his ability.

Note that Circle A lies within circle B , which means sasuke have only shown a portion of law's ability, which makes sense as its not been too long since he got his ability. We are not even sure if he can do as much as law.
But ...

The point still stands, it is still a rip off.





The big Trio (op,Naruto,bleach) all seem to borrow from each other. writers do it all the time so why are you adamant about calling ripoff and saying things are unoriginal?

out of curiosity. can you tell me what you think of the points i made in my previous post?
 

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I think you are talking about substitution jutsu.
Substitution jutsu have nothing to do with this.
How can you even compare substitution with law's technique?



Sasuke have been using this exactly like law uses his DF of course to a lesser extent.

To put it more bluntly :

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it is exact same shit.

Law have a "room" (space restriction) where his technque can work, same as sasuke.
Sasuke have also used it the exact same way to protect himself like law did.

There is literally no difference in law and sasuke's ability except the fact law has more to offer from it than sasuke.

And Ino takes over someone's mind , this is also completely different than what law does.
He switch two people's brain, ino takes over someone's brain.
Ino gains full control over the opponent unlike law.
Ino loses control over her own body unlike law.
Again, these two are not same , they are not even close to same thing.

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^ this explains law and sasuke very well.
Circle A is what sasuke can do with his ability.
Circle B is what law can do with his ability.

Note that Circle A lies within circle B , which means sasuke have only shown a portion of law's ability, which makes sense as its not been too long since he got his ability. We are not even sure if he can do as much as law.
But ...

The point still stands, it is still a rip off.

Ah yea substitution jutsu. Sorry I mixed up the name. Too sleep deprived lately.

Nope I see it more similar to that substitution jutsu. Sasuke doesn't need a "room". He just substituted/swaped himself on a dimensional level. And he had a portal in between while at it.

That graph is also wrong. For these capacities need different conditions/factors to fulfill. The factors do not match this much to make Sasuke's circle a sub set of Law's.

Not to mention Sasuke has a ton of other capacities to go with it. I am surprised you didn't claim Kaguya is Law rip off and her dimensions are Law's room. :|

You are stretching it to fit it in Law's case while denying that the idea's like substitution an object or clone (or consciousness ) existed in the anime world beforehand. If anything this basic ability was used in Naruto before OP. All these characters are different. Leave them alone. Too much fanboyism and trying to favour one over another as a result of it, only leads to biased judgement and in the end hostility.

It seems to have become cool to start a rip off and plot hole thread without thinking things through objectively.

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No actually I used the right word- Body replacement jutsu



Substitution jutsu is different:



That's what Itach and Kisame used back in Gara rescue arc and later Zetsu in war arc.
 
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You know though, to Kaguya's defense, she lived in an era in which only she had chakra and so she's not used to fight against other chakra beings, in contrast to Madara. That being said, Madara actually has more fighting experience than Kaguya.
 

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Sasuke has always been a rip off. He ripped off Itachi's MS powers, he ripped off of Orochimaru with snakes and shit, he ripped off of Madara's EMS power, he ripped off of Law, he ripped off of Izuna's looks even.
 

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Your opinion is quite overstated .. The plot holes are to formulate and give the viewers an insight on what they think may happen ...
 

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Kage Bunshin spreads the chakra equally, it's generally impossible to determine the real one.

Madara able to do that might be just his special ability because he said he "was the only one" that could distinguish Hashirama's Mokuton Bunshin. He could distinguish Naruto's bunshin too.

Sasuke isn't confirmed to be able to distinguish Naruto's Kage Bunshin.

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This, Byakugan can't distinguish Shadow Clone from the real one. Madara has the special capability.
 

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Ah yea substitution jutsu. Sorry I mixed up the name. Too sleep deprived lately.

Nope I see it more similar to that substitution jutsu. Sasuke doesn't need a "room". He just substituted/swaped himself on a dimensional level. And he had a portal in between while at it.

That graph is also wrong. For these capacities need different conditions/factors to fulfill. The factors do not match this much to make Sasuke's circle a sub set of Law's.

Not to mention Sasuke has a ton of other capacities to go with it. I am surprised you didn't claim Kaguya is Law rip off and her dimensions are Law's room. :|

You are stretching it to fit it in Law's case while denying that the idea's like substitution an object or clone (or consciousness ) existed in the anime world beforehand. If anything this basic ability was used in Naruto before OP. All these characters are different. Leave them alone. Too much fanboyism and trying to favour one over another as a result of it, only leads to biased judgement and in the end hostility.

It seems to have become cool to start a rip off and plot hole thread without thinking things through objectively.

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Sasuke have used this technique without substituting anything.

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He also didn't switch with anything in the pic where he slashed madara.

Since your whole argument is based off it being similar to substitution jutsu, i have provided you with a scan in which this principle is not even used.While if we were to apply law's ability in it,it fits in too perfectly.
In fact, law used something similar while running from doffy.

Also sasuke does need a "room".
He said he can only do it need a certain area, (space restriction).
Which is why he had to run and get close enough to the dimension portal to enter it.

Of course,Sasuke have other things in his arsenal yet its clear i am focusing on his new teleportation technique right now.
And yes the diagram is true unless proven otherwise. It is easier to state something but rather difficult to prove it. Make sure this diagram is strictly based on things shown by sasuke's new ability.

It is really easy to call someone a fanboy etc, but you have to actually prove him wrong before making such claims. :coffee:
 

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wood clones aren'y shadow clones, guy.

and who says sasuke knew that was a clone?
 
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