So PS > BSM in terms of defense? Still.

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Nooo. But obviously, Onooki could tell the difference so obviosly PS isnt the only example of "stabilized" chakra. I will ask one more time: give me a scan to where the difference is explained.
Those were your words, right? But it seems that you dont know the difference, either.
We cant conclude that. Onooki was just surprised that its got stabilized contrary to anything he ever saw.

Stabilized chakra is new level of chakra control, concentration and density, that as i showed in this thread give new level of durability.
Visually it removes most of flaming chakra effect from susanoo.
Both susanoo and BM have that effect with PS its nearly nonexistent.
 

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We cant conclude that. Onooki was just surprised that its got stabilized contrary to anything he ever saw.

Stabilized chakra is new level of chakra control, concentration and density, that as i showed in this thread give new level of durability.
Visually it removes most of flaming chakra effect from susanoo.
Both susanoo and BM have that effect with PS its nearly nonexistent.
Hey, Kyuubi doesnt have flaming chakra on himself, either, thats just visual effect of Narutos avatar. You have to face it and stop making facts on your own: it was never stated whats the difference between stabilized and unstabilized chakra.
 

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Hey, Kyuubi doesnt have flaming chakra on himself, either, thats just visual effect of Narutos avatar. You have to face it and stop making facts on your own: it was never stated whats the difference between stabilized and unstabilized chakra.
Flamming chakra effect is main visual difference between normal susanoo and PS.

BM has flaming chakra effect.
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PS has refined lines, which normal one doesnt and has no flaming tongues.
Speculating that BM is stabilized out of the blue is just too desperate.
 
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Flamming chakra effect is main visual difference with with normal susanoo and PS.

BM has flaming chakra effect.
So what? Do you see flaming chakra on Kurama?

-> Look thats KM8, no trace of flaming chakra. KM8 >> PS, thats official.

You fail to see that its just visual effect of Kuramas avatar. Narutos chakra cloak started to look ethereal, but its only becuase his seal has been reconstructed. It doesnt mean that KM8 was more powerful than his current Kurama avatar.
 

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So what? Do you see flaming chakra on Kurama?
-> Look thats KM8, no trace of flaming chakra. KM8 >> PS, thats official.
You fail to see that its just visual effect of Kuramas avatar. Narutos chakra cloak started to look ethereal, but its only becuase his seal has been reconstructed. It doesnt mean that KM8 was more powerful than his current Kurama avatar.
And bijus have no flaming effect what so ever even thou they are said to be made of chakra. Well its not wrong their bones flash and blood is made of their chakra, hence KM8 has no flames as its chakra converting in actual biju body. BM and susanoo are chakra projections ethereal as you say.
 

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Well of course it hasnt anything to do cuz it would defeat your argument right?
So fraction of tenpenchi did eliminate whole that focused damage done by lazer in same vector. Its a manga drawn evidence and proof, you choose to ignore.
It doesn't defeat my argument, as it has nothing to do with the fact Tenpenchii's total energy isn't focused on the target. That is fact. You keep mentioning this nonsense like its relevant. Tenpenchii destroying the landscape to the point where you can't see the damage caused by Juubi laser anymore doesn't mean that taking a fraction of Tenpenchii's total energy output is more impressive than taking all of Juubi laser's output.

Then again, you have the brain of a cockroach so it might be too hard for you to understand this concept.

Juubi laser=Focused attack

Tenpenchii=Not focused attack.

-A weaker Kyuubi cloak tanked the same Tenpenchii that V3 Susanoo tanked.

-A stronger Kyuubi cloak lost 6 tails to the Juubidama.

Any idiot would be able to tell which one did more damage on its targets. Comparing its effects on the environment has absolutely nothing to do with the damage dealt upon its targets.




V3 still can be concluded to be more durable then BM. After obito's attack sasuke survived solely due to susanoo, naruto due SM enhanced body not just BSM avatar.
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With SM naruto can survive sure death falls like nothing also being smashed by kurama's paw.
Looking at the scan we can conclude that his SM body sustained good damage after BSM broke off, sure death damage unlike sasuke.
This is another evidence in favor of V3.
Except the Juubi laser was tanked by BM's tails, not its main body. Obito dropped the Avatar right on its main body, meaning these two durability feats are completely unrelated. The best you have here is V3 Susanoo=BM Avatar's body in durability.


As far as fodders surviving tenpenchi is quite easy. They were just blown away and can be compared to ping pong balls. You can hit ping ball hard whole day but to brake you either have to press it against something or make high speed impact with something durable.
Their size had absolutely nothing to do with their survival, how does that even make sense? The bold only goes for physical strikes, not for strikes of energy, unless you think a ping pong ball will be intact after a nuke has hit it. Lol

P.S. Stop spamming walls of text moron, keep your shit short. Most of it are just insults anyway, so get off that high shinsusenju you're riding cuz I wont be taking them.
Next time either short placed argument or reported for spam, insults and neg repped.
Stop crying. Do you think I care if you neg or report me? You and anyone else crying about me insulting you can kindly stfu.
 
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It doesn't defeat my argument, as it has nothing to do with the fact Tenpenchii's total energy isn't focused on the target. That is fact. You keep mentioning this nonsense like its relevant. Tenpenchii destroying the landscape to the point where you can't see the damage caused by Juubi laser anymore doesn't mean that taking a fraction of Tenpenchii's total energy output is more impressive than taking all of Juubi laser's output.
Yes it does mean that. Learn some physics.
Except the Juubi laser was tanked by BM's tails, not its main body. Obito dropped the Avatar right on its main body, meaning these two durability feats are completely unrelated. The best you have here is V3 Susanoo=BM Avatar's body in durability.
Stupid as hell. Its all made of same stuff, there isnt anything to suggest that tails are made of anything more durable. And i would think some tails would survive obito's attack then, oh wait it didnt.
Their size had absolutely nothing to do with their survival, how does that even make sense? The bold only goes for physical strikes, not for strikes of energy, unless you think a ping pong ball will be intact after a nuke has hit it. Lol
Small yet durable body makes it aerodynamically suitable survive blast wave much easily. Given their light weight they just go with them flow rather then opposing it. Ping pong balls sure survive explosions where windows shatter. Besides you'd be surprized how much shit survived nuke explosions.
Stop crying. Do you think I care if you neg or report me? You and anyone else crying about me insulting you can kindly stfu.
Blah blah, uh we got badass over here. I take it you dont mind then.
 
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Yes it does mean that. Learn some physics.
Stupid as hell. Its all made of same stuff, there isnt anything to suggest that tails are made of anything more durable. And i would think some tails would survive obito's attack then, oh wait it didnt.
Small yet durable body makes it aerodynamically suitable survive blast wave much easily. Given their light weight they just go with them flow rather then opposing it. Ping pong balls sure survive explosions where windows shatter. Besides you'd be surprized how much shit survived nuke explosions.

Blah blah, uh we got badass over here. I take it you dont mind then.

Kidgamer is using physics. You're the one ignoring them. I really think we should stop talking to you about the concept of applied energy and focus since you clearly don't understand the concept.


I have to wounder if you're trolling.
 

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Yes it does mean that. Learn some physics.
No it freaking doesn't. I've already explained to you, telling me to learn physics when physics doesn't even agree with the nonsense you are saying isn't rebuttal.

Stupid as hell. Its all made of same stuff, there isnt anything to suggest that tails are made of anything more durable. And i would think some tails would survive obito's attack then, oh wait it didnt.
Feats disagree moron, you saying there is nothing to suggest its more durable isn't a rebuttal.

lmao, so stupid. :leaf:

Naruto was dropped on his head and took so much damage that his avatar was cancelled and he reverted to Sage Mode instead of BSM. His tails disappearing is completely irrelevant when he took so much damage his avatar was cancelled.


Small yet durable body makes it aerodynamically suitable survive blast wave much easily. Given their light weight they just go with them flow rather then opposing it. Ping pong balls sure survive explosions where windows shatter. Besides you'd be surprized how much shit survived nuke explosions.
@bold: Based on what? lol. Light weight and smaller size isn't a deciding factor here. Going with the flow doesn't matter here either, as if going with the flow is going to let you survive a large ass storm like Tenpenchii, manga has made it clear it was the cloak that the protected them, your BS excuses aren't going to change that.

Manga already stated that Naruto's cloak protected them, that's a fact. [ ]

Naruto was injured during the blast. [ ]


Kidgamer is using physics. You're the one ignoring them. I really think we should stop talking to you about the concept of applied energy and focus since you clearly don't understand the concept.


I have to wounder if you're trolling.
I personally believe he's just that dumb.
 

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Kidgamer is using physics. You're the one ignoring them. I really think we should stop talking to you about the concept of applied energy and focus since you clearly don't understand the concept.
I have to wounder if you're trolling.
And the physics state that lesser force cannot eliminate trace of the bigger one.

No it freaking doesn't. I've already explained to you, telling me to learn physics when physics doesn't even agree with the nonsense you are saying isn't rebuttal.
Read above lol
Feats disagree moron, you saying there is nothing to suggest its more durable isn't a rebuttal.
lmao, so stupid. :leaf:
Naruto was dropped on his head and took so much damage that his avatar was cancelled and he reverted to Sage Mode instead of BSM. His tails disappearing is completely irrelevant when he took so much damage his avatar was cancelled.
Isnt rebuttal? What you made wasnt even argument, just out of the blue tails got to be stronger? Got any manga support or your biased speculations. Cant get rebuttal to no argument sorry pal.
@bold: Based on what? lol. Light weight and smaller size isn't a deciding factor here. Going with the flow doesn't matter here either, as if going with the flow is going to let you survive a large ass storm like Tenpenchii, manga has made it clear it was the cloak that the protected them, your BS excuses aren't going to change that.
Manga already stated that Naruto's cloak protected them, that's a fact. [ ]
Naruto was injured during the blast. [ ]
Well ofc cloak is the main reason they have survived. Yes those factors do help survive tenepenchi cuz they lessen the effects of blast wave on them. Physics strike again i guess.
Naruto i already explained b4. Aside body enhancement he gets from KCM he also has huge healing power, that with way less kyuubi chakra he could heal a hole in his shoulder so long ago.

You just repeat your old shit over and over, and other naruto fans lick your butt. but you have no real argument.
You make up tails durability off your ass, close your eyes on physic laws, and still cant prove me how would V3 succumb to the lazer.
 
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