So PS > BSM in terms of defense? Still.

[Turson]

Well if the slash woudnt be enough then sword sure would do the job, and sword was shown to have variable length giving reach advantage.

This would basically be a brawl, in which, like I said, more limbs could be very handy. Personally, I dont see any favorite in this.

 

[AlphaScythian]

This would basically be a brawl, in which, like I said, more limbs could be very handy. Personally, I dont see any favorite in this.

I find cutting weapons abit more handy then limbs you know what happened with hachibi vs raikage

In case of sasuke's PS, enton would be very handy as well

 

[adeshina365]

Personally, I think that the fact that Kyuubi has more limbs to his disposition would come very handy, as tails could be used to subdue PS movements. Lets not forget that they are very, very strong, since just one was able to hold another Bijuu in place, and Im talking about BM Naruto who had only half of Kyuubis strenght to his disposition. Also, PS slash cutting Kyuubi in half? I dont see it. It would trully mean that PS >> Kyuubi in overall power. Affect him to some degree, damage, but not cut in half.

Comparing blunt force attacks and cutting attacks is pointless.

For example, the Hachibi was able to survive its own TBB with little damage, but was easily cut by chidori and large ninja stars.

 

[Turson]

Comparing blunt force attacks and cutting attacks is pointless.

For example, the Hachibi was able to survive its own TBB with little damage, but was easily cut by chidori and large ninja stars.

I know, but Kyuubis chakra has also displayed great resistance to swords. Remember Kusanagi and KM4? Thats what Im talking about. Stab is even more focused than slash, yet KM4 tanked it effortlessly. Yeah, its a blasphemy to compare Kusanagi to PS sword, but same can be said about comparison of four tailed version of semi Kurama to full Kurama.

I find cutting weapons abit more handy then limbs you know what happened with hachibi vs raikage

Considering tails strenght its more like a blunt weapon vs sword. Lets say its like mace vs. sword. And in this case we are talkig about 1 / 2 sword vs 9 limbs.

 

[adeshina365]

I know, but Kyuubis chakra has also displayed great resistance to swords. Remember Kusanagi and KM4? Thats what Im talking about. Stab is even more focused than slash, yet KM4 tanked it effortlessly. Yeah, its a blasphemy to compare Kusanagi to PS sword, but same can be said about comparison of four tailed version of semi Kurama to full Kurama.

Considering tails strenght its more like a blunt weapon vs sword. Lets say its like mace vs. sword. And in this case we are talkig about 1 / 2 sword vs 9 limbs.

A sword is one thing, but Raiton has already been shown to cut through V2 Bijuu cloaks like butter.

I think the delta between a Raiton attack and PS slash is quite a bit larger than V2 Bijuu cloaks to full Bijuu.

 

[Turson]

A regular sword is one thing, but lightning enhanced weapons have already been shown to cut through V2 Bijuu cloaks like butter.

Considering the vast difference in resistance between Hachibi and Kyuubi, I doubt it would be the case with the latter. As for now the only thing that was able to damage Kyuubis chakra cloak was Juubis laser, nothing else.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Considering the vast difference in resistance between Hachibi and Kyuubi, I doubt it would be the case with the latter. As for now the only thing that was able to damage Kyuubis chakra cloak was Juubis laser, nothing else.

Lets not jump into lazer again.
Chakra based defenses sure are durable vs normal cutting ones.
KM4 tanked kusanagi, and even thou its the sharpest sword ever it still a normal sword.
Susanoo made kunais brake.
Sasuke's kusanagi with chidri failed vs raiton armor where pure chidori succeeded.
FRS cut down juubi tails.
Chakra based cuts most likely would do the job.

 

[adeshina365]

Considering the vast difference in resistance between Hachibi and Kyuubi, I doubt it would be the case with the latter. As for now the only thing that was able to damage Kyuubis chakra cloak was Juubis laser, nothing else.

Another note, V1 Juubi's destructive feats weren't really beyond a regular Bijuu. It was only the V2 Juubi that showed feats far beyond the regular Bijuu. What the Juubi's laser did to the terrain wasn't beyond what Naruto has shown with 50% Kurama.

PS was involved in countless explosions from 100% Kurama and took hundreds of Bijuu sized fists from Hashirama's Buddha. I still question if PS was actually destroyed. If you look at Susanoo in that scan you can see that it looks as though it's coming off like steam. Half of it is actually still in tact and there wouldn't be a good reason for only half of it to have been damaged. When Hashirama says that Susanoo is removed I think he was referring to Madara running out of chakra to use it.

 

[Turson]

Chakra based cuts most likely would do the job.

I wonder. After all, we are talking about chakra vs chakra here. Like I said, I dont see a clear favorite here.

When Hashirama says that Susanoo is removed I think he was referring to Madara running out of chakra to use it.

I doubt that. If it was the case, I think Susanoo would lose its layer, like when MS Sasuke lost his sight, or when Itachi released Edo Tensei and Madaras PS started to disappear.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I wonder. After all, we are talking about chakra vs chakra here. Like I said, I dont see a clear favorite here.

Well im sure that stabilized chakra sword would cut unstabilized chakra.

 

[Turson]

Well im sure that stabilized chakra sword would cut unstabilized chakra.

Who said that Kurama containst of unstabilized chakra?

 

[AlphaScythian]

Who said that Kurama containst of unstabilized chakra?

Sorry what? Is that even a question? I feel like you're about to imply something stupid. Got some scans?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Another note, V1 Juubi's destructive feats weren't really beyond a regular Bijuu. It was only the V2 Juubi that showed feats far beyond the regular Bijuu. What the Juubi's laser did to the terrain wasn't beyond what Naruto has shown with 50% Kurama.

PS was involved in countless explosions from 100% Kurama and took hundreds of Bijuu sized fists from Hashirama's Buddha. I still question if PS was actually destroyed. If you look at Susanoo in that scan you can see that it looks as though it's coming off like steam. Half of it is actually still in tact and there wouldn't be a good reason for only half of it to have been damaged. When Hashirama says that Susanoo is removed I think he was referring to Madara running out of chakra to use it.

Actually, V1 blaster strait through 9 TBBs. It is much stronger, but not at the same extent as V2. Regardless, the juubi laser is almost certainly stronger than the buddah statue through destruction feats. I'd also like to address that the TBBs probably didn't reach susanoo-Kurama. They did after all, have swords to cut through the arms and exploded afterward. No it's cannon that PS can tank a TBB don't get me wrong, but we don't know if the explosions of the barrage reached it.

 

[Turson]

Sorry what? Is that even a question? I feel like you're about to imply something stupid. Got some scans?

Of course it is. Who said that Kyuubi contains of unstabilized chakra? Do you have some scans to prove it?

 

[AlphaScythian]

Of course it is. Who said that Kyuubi contains of unstabilized chakra? Do you have some scans to prove it?

Do you know the difference to begin with?

 

[Turson]

Do you know the difference to begin with?

No, I dont. I dont remember if it was explained in manga.

 

[AlphaScythian]

No, I dont. I dont remember if it was explained in manga.

Well if you know nothing of it then just trust me

 

[Turson]

Well if you know nothing of it then just trust me

Bs. Either show some scans or say no more.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Bs. Either show some scans or say no more.

Burden of proof is on you.
Lets just assume that every one got stabilized chakra now cuz kishi didnt say otherwise is that what you're thinking?

 

[Turson]

Burden of proof is on you.
Lets just assume that every one got stabilized chakra now cuz kishi didnt say otherwise is that what you're thinking?

Nooo. But obviously, Onooki could tell the difference so obviosly PS isnt the only example of "stabilized" chakra. I will ask one more time: give me a scan to where the difference is explained.

Do you know the difference to begin with?

Those were your words, right? But it seems that you dont know the difference, either.