So Naruto really don't get it..

[Nagi]

Most of his people are actually fighting side by side with the Shonibi from other villages .... I dont think your point stands at all.

Because of the war. Everything else in life don't matter at the moment. Once the war is almost. Those things will matter once again. Village's resources, Money, Knowledge, etc. If Im stuck on an island with a person I hate very much.. There is a bigger threat that want to kill us both. Of course i'll work together with that person to overcome that threat. Now once that Threat is over, I'll go back to hating that person unless that Threat overcame my hatred for that person.

 

[V h o]

I only said that because throughout the past few weeks of threads, you kept saying Naruto is the answer because everybody believe in him. It almost like you fail to acknowledge the unrealistic character in him because the manga is call Naruto. In all the threads i seen you in, you have not yet point out a single flaw in Naruto. Unless you a naruto fanboy or you just straight up believe naruto is the key to everything.

I can only give you manga facts, the fact that majority (SA, hagoromo, kages, bijuu, etc.) follow behind Naruto is already proof enough to me that his way is more better/supported, if this supported path leads to hell at least everyone will be behind it. I mean you can try to say his way is naive and that wars will still follow, but by going by the current trend that wars have been decreasing, it's safe to say his way will achieve peace. So far everyone basically calls Naruto's way a fiction (despite this being a fiction) while in reality Naruto's fictional approach is how we get allies in real life (now it may take wars/bloodshed/disagreements but it still happens, negotiations still happen).

Even weeks before this, I have supported Naruto's (liberal) perspective as opposed to realistic (power) perspectives of Sasuke's, Madara's, Danzo, Indra, etc.

I don't believe power is the way to peace, but changing ideologies are the way to peace. I by no means ignore that power plays a role (you simply can't have a weakling to change the world), however I emphasize ideas being the better approach.

 

[EternalDarkness]

Because of the war. Everything else in life don't matter at the moment. Once the war is almost. Those things will matter once again. Village's resources, Money, Knowledge, etc. If Im stuck on an island with a person I hate very much.. There is a bigger threat that want to kill us both. Of course i'll work together with that person to overcome that threat. Now once that Threat is over, I'll go back to hating that person unless that Threat overcame my hatred for that person.

this is what sasuke did against naruto despite the fact that naruto never hated sasuke. never bothered him. never did him any wrong. isn`t fishy ? are u tarded ? go die pls. ****ing idiot.

 

[Nagi]

I can only give you manga facts, the fact that majority (SA, hagoromo, kages, bijuu, etc.) follow behind Naruto is already proof enough to me that his way is more better/supported, if this supported path leads to hell at least everyone will be behind it. I mean you can try to say his way is naive and that wars will still follow, but by going by the current trend that wars have been decreasing, it's safe to say his way will achieve peace. So far everyone basically calls Naruto's way a fiction (despite this being a fiction) while in reality Naruto's fictional approach is how we get allies in real life (now it may take wars/bloodshed/disagreements but it still happens, negotiations still happen).

Even weeks before this, I have supported Naruto's (liberal) perspective as opposed to realistic (power) perspectives of Sasuke's, Madara's, Danzo, Indra, etc.

I don't believe power is the way to peace, but changing ideologies are the way to peace. I by no means ignore that power plays a role (you simply can't have a weakling to change the world), however I emphasize ideas being the better approach.

Well said. I have nothing more to say to you.

 

[Nagi]

this is what sasuke did against naruto despite the fact that naruto never hated sasuke. never bothered him. never did him any wrong. isn`t fishy ? are u tarded ? go die pls. ****ing idiot.

Once you have some self-respect, I'll answer you.

 

[Anorien16]

Because of the war. Everything else in life don't matter at the moment. Once the war is almost. Those things will matter once again. Village's resources, Money, Knowledge, etc. If Im stuck on an island with a person I hate very much.. There is a bigger threat that want to kill us both. Of course i'll work together with that person to overcome that threat. Now once that Threat is over, I'll go back to hating that person unless that Threat overcame my hatred for that person.

Most people actually get over old differences when the opposing party actually tries to save their lives ..... Alliances forged in blood and companionship are not easily broken.

 

[Nagi]

Most people actually get over old differences when the opposing party actually tries to save their lives ..... Alliances forged in blood and companionship are not easily broken.

Hopefully. Part 3 will be interesting.

 

[TrollKing]

this is what sasuke did against naruto despite the fact that naruto never hated sasuke. never bothered him. never did him any wrong. isn`t fishy ? are u tarded ? go die pls. ****ing idiot.

That's exactly why there are war. Sasuke killing the biju is A cop out when he should kill those who use Bijus? You are even more hardcore than sasuke Lol

 

[Xāvî1]

Actually sasuke doesn't understand!

 

[Nagi]

Actually sasuke doesn't understand!

What he doesn't understand? I only targeted Naruto for this OP because too many Threads about Sasuke being way more wrong than Naruto.

 

[Mad Daz]

At the end of the day, both Sasuke and Naruto are wrong, Sasuke's way is too harsh while Naruto's is too unrealistic, by the looks of thinngs i think they will resolve this together

I keep hearing sasuke fans say narutos way is unrealistic yet he has never even said the way he plans to do it. He has however already inspired every single gokage into wanting a single ninja nation, just by fighting alongside them. Sasuke obviously doesnt think a hokage needs to be accepted by the people.

 

[Umari Senju]

let me tell you something. there was a case where a robber took the woman that was making the sales in the shop as hostage, with a knife.. the police tried to convince him to release her.. she had no fault.. a policeman shot the robber in the head.. would you tell me he did the wrong thing, knowing that THE INOCENT WOMAN COULD`VE BEEN STABBED TO DEATH ANY MOMENT ? if you were in that policeman`s skin and it would`ve turned out the other way, the robber killing the woman, how could you sleep at night knowing you let that woman die, and THE WOMAN DIED FOR NO REASON AT ALL, JUST BECAUSE THE ROBBER WAS A ****ING MANIAC ? i`m stating the obvious here. maybe you could stand in denial all day, arguing with me, but until you won`t get through something like that, probbably you won`t understand that sometimes sacrifices must be made.. in order to protect the inocent, you might be forced to kill your friend also.. cuz if he doesn`t stop in his pursuit and he`s insisting to the point where he even ignores what you try to protect, then he isn`t understanding you so that means he isn`t your friend at all. this guy is telling me that naruto is stupid and doesn`t understand that bijuu must dissapear forever because THEY WERE USED BY HUMANS IN HUMAN WARS.. SO THAT HUMANITY CAN LIVE IN PEACE WITHOUT THE URGE OF USING THE BIJUUS AND SUBDUE THEM, SASUKE SHOULD KILL THE BIJUUS..

The problem with this scenario you just gave is you don't know the robber will actually kill her. There are plenty of cases when this scenario doesn't play out with someone getting killed. People can change their minds even killers.

The moment the cop takes the shot because he "thinks" the girl is going to be stabbed is the moment he became a killer himself. Was his action justified. Maybe as he was holding her at knife point. He made a judgement call and it cost someone there life.

Now with that said., this in no way has anything to do with what I just posted. You are blowing things out of proportions on ideology. You don't agree with the OP's views. Did the Op in any way say he leads a country or has thousands of lifes under him that he makes decisions for?
No!
So why does he need to be excuted? For something he hasn't even done? Does he not have a right to be persuaded otherwise?

No you just made the decision for him as if your view is somehow righteous and his is evil......

...Much like Sasuke is doing to the rest of this "fictional" world, you are letting your emotions get the better of you and passing sentence on those who don't agree with your ideals.

I stand by what I said. What you posted eariler is no worse or better than the OP's views.

Try to keep in minde that the OP and you do not have the same upbringing. You may not even be in the same country, so why is it you are right and he is wrong.

Calm yourself! U_U

 

[Sharingan King]

Naruto is way too naive to be a good leader.

Great thread.

 

[htmwall]

naruto might not have a definitive answer for peace,since there's no short cut to that.bijuus right now are no longer just tools for war that follow their hatred for humans,that will lead the humans use that hatred and unleach bijuu on other villages as weapons,well releasing the bijuus in the world isn't really a smart answer ,but killing them is an even dumber one,since they'll regenerate after years,and even if they don't the balance made by the bijuu's presence between villages will dissappear,leading to bigger possibilities of wars ,a waste that the bijuus could be used as guardians for peace right now if put in the right hands.

he might not have enough smarts to handle politics,,or to find the answer for peace,but at least he is trying to change the way people think,which is the root of the problem.he is urging them to try to find it themelves and that's how the peace can last if the next generations try to find it too and carry the torch to the next one,and that's what a true revolution,unlike a peace that is carried by one person's twisted ideal(that are exactly what led to darkness in the previous system) and will last as long as he lives.