So, Minato's got great shunshin speed as well?

[AGoodBoy]

For me it looks impossible to throw a kunai and actually hit that small rock in the ****ing large ocean, i mean it could hit alot of other things that just could place it somewhere else. That would mean he woulndt know where he got teleported and thus a verry stupid action. And we all know Minato is a genius and would never do something like that.

Besides, you would need throwing skills of ultimate god level

not just throwing skills. He'd need to be a cyborg.

-He has to first see that rock which is at least 5 miles off sure and only a bit bigger than his kunai.
-Then he has to calculate the angle he'd need to throw it to compensate for drop off
-Then he has to calculate the power of the throw to overcome over-shooting and under-shooting
-Then he has to has to calculate the side to side angle he has to throw it at to compensate for unpredictable, randomly changing ocean currents( as in air currents, btw)

Seriously, if he can do all of that, FtG should be the least of any shinobi's problems. He could snipe the juubi from konoha.

So whats your point? That minato jumped there instead?

No, that throwing it from land is the least likely scenario.
Jumping there would even be more believeable, but i don't know. Not saying you're wrong, just saying the probability of that happening is microscopic. There's way too many random variables :/

 

[Retsu]

not just throwing skills. He'd need to be a cyborg.

-He has to first see that rock which is at least 5 miles off sure and only a bit bigger than his kunai.
-Then he has to calculate the angle he'd need to throw it to compensate for drop off
-Then he has to calculate the power of the throw to overcome over-shooting and under-shooting
-Then he has to has to calculate the side to side angle he has to throw it at to compensate for unpredictable, randomly changing ocean currents

Seriously, if he can do all of that, FtG should be the least of any shinobi's problems. He could snipe the juubi from konoha.

LMAO!!!!!!

That was hilarious

 

[Draphsin]

No, that throwing it from land is the least likely scenario.
Jumping there would even be more believeable, but i don't know. Not saying you're wrong, just saying the probability of that happening is microscopic. There's way too many random variables :/

Im not necessarily saying that he threw it from the land. Its possible that he threw kunai over the ocean, teleported to it & threw another one, etc...then teleported back to his first kunai as it hit the ground in front of naruto (thats entirely possible with FTG).

But you do have a point, there are a lot of variables but saying that minato solely relied on his shunshin to do what he did is a bit much, dont you think?

 

[AGoodBoy]

Im not necessarily saying that he threw it from the land. Its possible that he threw kunai over the ocean, teleported to it & threw another one, etc...then teleported back to his first kunai before it hit the ground (thats entirely possible with FTG).

But you do have a point, there are a lot of variables but saying that minato solely relied on his shunshin to do what he did is a bit much, dont you think?

I literally have no reply to how he did it. The only possible scenario is that he really has shushin speed(which he can sustain) which is beyond that of Ay, and while the hokage ran, he had enough time to take a detour and run back, and the time they took to get to the battlefield was actually far longer than we expected. But, that ftg throw, jump, throw scenario you brought up is the most likely scenario i could possibly think of for how he even got to that island.
The first time i even saw it i was like "Wtf?.. anyway, next page..."

EDIT: It still wouldn't even make sense for ytf he'd prepare a kunai there... how'd he even know the juubi was out(remember, not even SM can sense it because it basically feels like nature) or that it's juubi-dama could be that big... it's just all sorts of wtf in that chapter

 

[Memoria]

(1)Even if he did call it that, he still has no other name to associate minato's s/t jutsu with. He would'nt call it "hiraishin" because hiraishin =/= s/t jutsu.



(2)He did, shunshin is also associated with

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, therefore it can be interpreted both ways. So if tobirama has no other name for minato's s/t, he will call is shunshin



(3)Why? Shunshin is associated with teleportation, you cant prove that tobirama knows the name of his jutsu, it makes more sense that he would call it shunshin because he has no other name for it. Lol



(4)The kunai in the ocean was on

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, he cant shunshin there because he cant fly. The only other obvious explanation is that he threw it.



(5)Minato's been shown to throw

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at once, he could've easily thrown one out on the island & one in front of naruto simultaneously.



(6)LOL & you avoided the main question, what would tobi call it if not shunshin?

I gave you proof of my side of the argument, yet you lack the proper proof to support your side. You say that minato used shunshin when a) tobi knows nothing of "hiraishin" b) teleportation has been referred to as "shunshin" before & c) Minato somehow reached an island without the help of FTG. & now that that's out of the way...


...You avoided my main argument by trying to justify tobirama's reasoning for calling it shunshin, thats irrelevant if tobirama doesnt know the name of minato's jutsu. Its makes canonical & logical sense that tobirama would associate his FTG with shunshin.

1. Kid, you still don't understand. He didn't need to call it "Hirashin". He could've said "Your space/time technique is better than mine", but instead, he called it "Shunshin", which only means Minato used Shunshin/foot speed to reach the battlefield. In fact, all of the 4 Hokages were using Shunshin to reach the battlefield, and Minato apparently outmatched them with his Shunshin. Both Tobirama and Minato never used space/time to reach the battlefield, there was no opportunity anyway, as there were no markings for their space/time technique. Tobirama complimenting Minato's space/time technique would only make sense if he himself used his, or he won't compare the two and it's clear that he never used it, seeing as he reached the battlefield together with the first and third Hokage. It's clear as the sun that they used Shunshin to arrive there, unless you have proof that Tobirama used Hirashin to reach the battlefield.

2. The link doesn't show for me, but I'm guessing you're referring to the page where Rin called Minato's movement Shunshin. This is completely irrelevant as the distance in which Minato used Hirashin was fairly understandable for Shunshin to cover. And Rin didn't show any knowledge on Minato's technique beforehand, you can't possibly compare her knowledge on Shunshin and space/time with Tobirama's, the man who was a remarkable member of a clan that was together with the Uchiha clan, the strongest clan in Konoha. I wonder what you're smoking to make a comparison between a Hokage and a Chuunin in terms of knowledge on space/time and Shunshin. Nice one though.

3. See above points.

4. He can't fly? So now shinobi can't walk on water? You're on a series of failures son. I really wonder what drugs you're on. And he threw the kunai? That's your proof? I can't possibly take you seriously now...

5. Again you're spewing baseless assumptions with no proof whatsoever. So Minato from Konoha threw three kunai around the Juubi, one near Naruto, and one on a rock in the middle of the ocean. I didn't know Minato was this much accurate...

6. Refer to point 1. And you provided proof? Funny how you think you provided proof or countered any of my points whatsoever. I had no idea assuming nonsense is proof. Where is your proof that Minato used Hirashin to reach the battlefield again? You don't have one? I understand. But don't talk big and argue against the manga next time.
Sigh... You're a waste of time.

 

[Draphsin]

I literally have no reply to how he did it. The only possible scenario is that he really has shushin speed(which he can sustain) which is beyond that of Ay, and while the hokage ran, he had enough time to take a detour and run back, and the time they took to get to the battlefield was actually far longer than we expected. But, that ftg throw, jump, throw scenario you brought up is the most likely scenario i could possibly think of for how he even got to that island.
The first time i even saw it i was like "Wtf?.. anyway, next page..."

EDIT: It still wouldn't even make sense for ytf he'd prepare a kunai there... how'd he even know the juubi was out(remember, not even SM can sense it because it basically feels like nature) or that it's juubi-dama could be that big... it's just all sorts of wtf in that chapter

Yeah, that chapter was filled with multiple "wtf" moments

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[Jikukan]

I think he came there by using body flicker, and then the rest was done with FTG cause it wasnt that insane far away to throw his kunai.


Your idea: Im not necessarily saying that he threw it from the land. Its possible that he threw kunai over the ocean, teleported to it & threw another one, etc...then teleported back to his first kunai as it hit the ground in front of naruto (thats entirely possible with FTG).

If he did it like that, he must had have ALOT of kunai's in his bag... plus that i dont think his kunai would come verry far. so it would actually take quite a while doing it like that

And his shunshin should be faster than a throwed kunai, so before his kunai would reach a certain distance he would already be far ahead ushing shunshin

your theory is possible but i dont think this is how he got there

 

[Voidstep]

last manga...

page 5: [after they spoke with Minato...] "Naruto - I felt their chakra while I was in Kyuubi mode. The others are coming too..."
page 6: [after the other hokages arrived...] "Naruto - More are coming. Though they're a bit late."

all this makes it plain obvious they did not come together with S/T.
it's possible they all teleported half way or so (where there was a mark maybe) but the rest of the way was done by foot.

the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Hokages by arriving together doesn't mean they have the exact same speed. in the same way that Juugo might be a bit slower than Sasuke, but since their speed difference is not big, they probably matched it to arrive together.
that explains why everyone is arriving at different times. and why Oro, Karin and Suigetsu aren't even there yet.

 

[Jikukan]

Yeah it is definitely body flicker tech

 

[AGoodBoy]

I think he came there by using body flicker, and then the rest was done with FTG cause it wasnt that insane far away to throw his kunai.


Your idea: Im not necessarily saying that he threw it from the land. Its possible that he threw kunai over the ocean, teleported to it & threw another one, etc...then teleported back to his first kunai as it hit the ground in front of naruto (thats entirely possible with FTG).

If he did it like that, he must had have ALOT of kunai's in his bag... plus that i dont think his kunai would come verry far. so it would actually take quite a while doing it like that

And his shunshin should be faster than a throwed kunai, so before his kunai would reach a certain distance he would already be far ahead ushing shunshin

your theory is possible but i dont think this is how he got there

i think he meant he tossed the kunai, Ftg'd, grabbed it, tossed it again. Which is a technique i sometimes use when people say "xxxx can fly"

 

[Draphsin]

1. Kid, you still don't understand.

Dont call me a kid you ignorant fanboy. Its not my fault if you cant accept facts.

He didn't need to call it "Hirashin". He could've said "Your space/time technique is better than mine", but instead, he called it "Shunshin", which only means Minato used Shunshin/foot speed to reach the battlefield. In fact, all of the 4 Hokages were using Shunshin to reach the battlefield, and Minato apparently outmatched them with his Shunshin.

Tobirama wouldnt have called "space/time technique", that is your opinion. You said yourself that minato teleported, teleporting is associated with shunshin. Tobirama said "your shunshin (teleporting) is better than mine". Going by your logic, tobirama would've said "your shunshin is better than ours (referring to everyones shunshin)". So tobirama's statement actually proves you wrong (Hiruzen was praising FTG, so he is not a proper example).

Both Tobirama and Minato never used space/time to reach the battlefield, there was no opportunity anyway, as there were no markings for their space/time technique. Tobirama complimenting Minato's space/time technique would only make sense if he himself used his, or he won't compare the two and it's clear that he never used it, seeing as he reached the battlefield together with the first and third Hokage. It's clear as the sun that they used Shunshin to arrive there, unless you have proof that Tobirama used Hirashin to reach the battlefield.

a) the other two hokage arrived exactly at the same time as tobirama, coincidence? I think not...
b) when has tobirama ever been shown to need seals for his FTG?
c) tobi was only referring to himself & not the other hokage, I once again say, why didnt tobi say "ours"? Lol

2. The link doesn't show for me, but I'm guessing you're referring to the page where Rin called Minato's movement Shunshin. This is completely irrelevant as the distance in which Minato used Hirashin was fairly understandable for Shunshin to cover. And Rin didn't show any knowledge on Minato's technique beforehand, you can't possibly compare her knowledge on Shunshin and space/time with Tobirama's, the man who was a remarkable member of a clan that was together with the Uchiha clan, the strongest clan in Konoha. I wonder what you're smoking to make a comparison between a Hokage an a Chuunin in terms of knowledge on space/time and Shunshin. Nice one though.

So you cant see the scan & you make judgments?? I wonder who the real child is here, how about you properly respond when necessary instead of looking like an ass & responding to a completely different point. Fail level is over 9000, let me tell you

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4. He can't fly? So now shinobi can't walk on water?

Shut the hell up you daft fanboy, minato threw his kunai from the sky, he was in the air you fool. He wasnt walking on the water XDXDXD

You're on a series of failures son. I really wonder what drugs you're on. And he threw the kunai? That's your proof? I can't possibly take you seriously now...

@Bold: LMFAO, so you undermine my evidence because it supports my side, yet you have no counter. You cant take me seriously because you cant prove me wrong. Call me a kid & say im on drugs all you want, it doesnt change the facts, facts you cant deny or try to creep around.

5. Again you're spewing baseless assumptions with no proof whatsoever. So Minato from Konoha threw to three kunai around the Juubi, one near Naruto, and one on a rock in the middle of the ocean. I didn't know Minato was this much accurate...

& look whos talking, your assumptions are laughable at best. FTG > Shunshin, therefore it makes no sense for minato to use the latter to do what he did. You must provide proof as to why minato would use a slower mode of transportation, & tobirama commenting on his "shunshin" speed is not enough as its already been proven wrong countless times.

6. Refer to point 1. And you provided proof? Funny how you think you provided proof or countered any of my points whatsoever. I had no idea assuming nonsense is proof. Where is your proof that Minato used Hirashin to reach the battlefield again?

I destroyed you in the evidence portion of this argument. What proof have you provided that tobirama knows of hiraishin??? None!

Haha its sad to see you minato d*ckriders struggle with whats real & whats not. You cant accept that minato teleported to accomplish these impossible feats because an old hokage who has no prior knowledge of hiraishin called it "shunshin" (even when its been shown that shunshin can be associated with teleporting). Very compelling argument you got there, you definitely passed english class with full marks.../sarcasm.

You don't have one? I understand. But don't talk big and argue against the manga next time. Sigh... You're a waste of time.

Haha if im such a waste of time then why bother digging yourself into a deeper hole? I can do this all day, & you will accept the facts or the thread will close with you remaining ignorant.

 

[Memoria]

Dont call me a kid you ignorant fanboy. Its not my fault if you cant accept facts.

Tobirama wouldnt have called "space/time technique", that is your opinion. (1)You said yourself that minato teleported, teleporting is associated with shunshin. Tobirama said "your shunshin (teleporting) is better than mine". Going by your logic, (2)tobirama would've said "your shunshin is better than ours (referring to everyones shunshin)". So tobirama's statement actually proves you wrong ((3)Hiruzen was praising FTG, so he is not a proper example).

1. Using your logic, son.
2. He's not responsible for the others. He thought that Minato's Shunshin was better than his. Simple as that.
3. Assuming again... Never fails. Mind showing me your proof that Hiruzen was referring to Minato's Hirashin and not his overall speed? Or are you going to avoid that by assuming again and showing no proof whatsoever? I'm betting on the latter...

a) the other two hokage arrived exactly at the same time as tobirama, coincidence? I think not...
b) when has tobirama ever been shown to need seals for his FTG?
c) tobi was only referring to himself & not the other hokage, I once again say, why didnt tobi say "ours"? Lol

Look at this kid spewing nonsense again. How does that prove Tobirama used Hirashin to reach the battlefield? This is completely irrelevant and does not prove anything. @ your logic.

So you cant see the scan & you make judgments?? I wonder who the real child is here, how about you properly respond when necessary instead of looking like an ass & responding to a completely different point. Fail level is over 9000, let me tell you

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This doesn't matter as I responded to your argument.

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Took a while, but this

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Look at my scan....It was FTG (Rin says body flicker but it was obviously FTG)

You not replying to that equals admitting your mistake.
And that scan you provided was clearly talking about Shunshin/Body Flicker, which explains Kakashi's statement "So he used space-time ninjutsu?". The translators merely used the term 'teleportation jutsu' instead of Shunshin/Body Flicker. It would've been better if you provided the official translation/Viz translation for that scan. This right here proves that Shushin/high-speed movement is not the same as space-time ninjutsu, which was made clear by Kakashi's statement. Funny how your own scan owns you.

Shut the hell up you daft fanboy, minato threw his kunai from the sky, he was in the air you fool. He wasnt walking on the water XDXDXD

Mind explaining how his Hirashin kunai reached that rock in the middle of the ocean, and three Hirashin kunai landed around the Juubi, and one Hirashin kunai landed near Naruto? I take it you say he jumped in the air inside Konoha and threw his multiple Hirashin kunai and each one of them landed in a strategic location that would be used later on.. Is that what you're saying? :leaf:

@Bold: LMFAO, so you undermine my evidence because it supports my side, yet you have no counter. You cant take me seriously because you cant prove me wrong. Call me a kid & say im on drugs all you want, it doesnt change the facts, facts you cant deny or try to creep around.

@ your rant. Is that what you're best at? ...Expected no less. Funny how you think you provided evidence. Where is that evidence, son. I wanna see it. :leaf:

& look whos talking, your assumptions are laughable at best. FTG > Shunshin, therefore it makes no sense for minato to use the latter to do what he did. You must provide proof as to why minato would use a slower mode of transportation, & tobirama commenting on his "shunshin" speed is not enough as its already been proven wrong countless times.

@ your logic. So Hirashin doesn't need markings now. Explain to me how Minato could use Hirashin when he had no markings at the battlefield. Shunshin is high-speed movement, as it was stated in the manga. If he had no markings at the battlefield, he has no other way but to use Shunshin.

I destroyed you in the evidence portion of this argument. What proof have you provided that tobirama knows of hiraishin??? None!

Funny how you think you destroyed anyone. Everyone knows Minato used Shunshin to reach the battlefield, yet you're the only one struggling and arguing against the manga. You won't overcome this unless you read the manga properly.

Haha its sad to see you minato d*ckriders struggle with whats real & whats not. You cant accept that minato teleported to accomplish these impossible feats because an old hokage who has no prior knowledge of hiraishin called it "shunshin" (even when its been shown that shunshin can be associated with teleporting). Very compelling argument you got there, you definitely passed english class with full marks.../sarcasm.

And you can't provide simple proof that Minato used Hirashin to reach the battlefield; because no such proof exists in the manga. In your logic, Tobirama complimenting Minato's Shunshin means one of two things, he either complimented his Body Flicker/high-speed movement or Hirashin. But the thing you're failing miserably at is proving that Tobirama meant Minato's Hirashin and not his Body Flicker/high-speed movement when he said "Shunshin". But that's your failed logic anyway. Space-Time is different from Shunshin and everyone knows it. Even

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proves it. Tobirama would've known it was Space-Time that Minato used IF he saw him use it. But the fact is, Minato used Shunshin / Body Flicker / high-speed movement to reach the battlefield; which promoted Tobirama to compliment his Shunshin / Body Flicker / high-speed movement. I had to repeat that multiple times for you to understand, but I doubt you will.

Haha if im such a waste of time then why bother digging yourself into a deeper hole? I can do this all day, & you will accept the facts or the thread will close with you remaining ignorant.

O_O Someone is happy he's a waste of time... Well, whatever makes you feel better I guess.

 

[johnnyindigo]

Shisui solos when it comes to body Flickr lol

Yeah minato's cool, I wouldn't be suprised even if he had Mokuton lol

Shishui is featless when it comes to body flicker tho

 

[TrollingSage]

Stopped reading right here....HIRAISHIN =/= SPACE TIME. Hiraishin is the name of his space time technique, tobirama has no knowledge of what minato calls his space time techniques, so why would he assume that its called hisaishin??

Rin called minato's FTG shunshin, whether she knew about his technique or not proves that it can be interpreted both ways, so tobirama who has no knowledge of the name of FTG wouldnt immediately call it FTG. Hence he called it shunshin, because he had no other name for it.

Burden of proof is on you, dont try to turn it on me because im the minority in this argument.

I'll make it simple for you. Minato needs a mark at his location in order to teleport. So where exactly was Minato's mark that he used to arrive on the battlefield that no one else apart from you saw? Or are you implying Minato can use FTG without any marks?

 

[Jikukan]

i think he meant he tossed the kunai, Ftg'd, grabbed it, tossed it again. Which is a technique i sometimes use when people say "xxxx can fly"

Ye after reading again i agree.
But his shunshin should be faster than a throwed kunai, so before his kunai would reach a certain distance he would already be far ahead ushing shunshin right?

So for me this doesnt sound like how it went

I go for shunshin unless we get to see a mark later on

 

[Amaterasuice]

He was referring to his shunshin. How could Minato use Hirashin if he didn't have a marking in the battlefield. It's obvious he reached there using shunshin.

Remember? Naruto has an ftg seal on his tummy along with the sealing of the biju. Minato could of just teleported to Naruto.

 

[Draphsin]

2. He's not responsible for the others. He thought that Minato's Shunshin was better than his. Simple as that.

Doesnt matter, If he was talking about basic shunshin then it makes no sense for him to only mention himself. Bad logic my friend

3. Assuming again... Never fails. Mind showing me your proof that Hiruzen was referring to Minato's Hirashin and not his overall speed? Or are you going to avoid that by assuming again and showing no proof whatsoever? I'm betting on the latter...

Im only repeating your terrible argument format, you said that hriuzen was praising minato because of his shunshin, yet you provide a lack of evidence supporting such a claim. & on the flip side, you expect me to give you some evidence rebutting your point? Jesus, Why are you so bad at debating??? XD

Look at this kid spewing nonsense again. How does that prove Tobirama used Hirashin to reach the battlefield? This is completely irrelevant and does not prove anything. @ your logic.

LOL & you completely dismiss all three points!! This proves that you cant come up with anything better because you simply brush off what i've shown you. TYPICAL ignorance

You not replying to that equals admitting your mistake.

No, you're denying the fact that rin called minato's FTG shunshin, the situation doesnt matter because the point still stands genius. FTG & shunshin can be interpreted both ways, manga shown.

And that scan you provided was clearly talking about Shunshin/Body Flicker, which explains Kakashi's statement "So he used space-time ninjutsu?". The translators merely used the term 'teleportation jutsu' instead of Shunshin/Body Flicker. It would've been better if you provided the official translation/Viz translation for that scan. This right here proves that Shushin/high-speed movement is not the same as space-time ninjutsu, which was made clear by Kakashi's statement. Funny how your own scan owns you.

Shunshin was translated by that scan to be the same as "teleportation". Tobirama called his FTG shunshin because its a form of teleportation, so no that scan doesnt "own" me. It proves that shunshin can be referred to as a form of teleportation, FTG is also a form of teleportation. Obvious link is obvious :sy:

Mind explaining how his Hirashin kunai reached that rock in the middle of the ocean, and three Hirashin kunai landed around the Juubi, and one Hirashin kunai landed near Naruto? I take it you say he jumped in the air inside Konoha and threw his multiple Hirashin kunai and each one of them landed in a strategic location that would be used later on.. Is that what you're saying?

Doesnt matter what I say or what I think about the situation so dont avoid the main issue. THE fact of the matter is that minato was shown to throw his kunai down to naruto & immediately teleported to it. You're telling me that minato used shunshin when he obviously used FTG to get to his kunai? lawl

@ your logic. So Hirashin doesn't need markings now. Explain to me how Minato could use Hirashin when he had no markings at the battlefield. Shunshin is high-speed movement, as it was stated in the manga. If he had no markings at the battlefield, he has no other way but to use Shunshin.

Are you blinded that much by your own ignorance that you didnt see minato teleport to his kunai? lmfao!

And you can't provide simple proof that Minato used Hirashin to reach the battlefield; because no such proof exists in the manga.

He teleported to his kunai in front of naruto, mnato has a seal placed on naruto's stomach too .

In your logic, Tobirama complimenting Minato's Shunshin means one of two things, he either complimented his Body Flicker/high-speed movement or Hirashin.

So you admitted that shunshin can be interpreted both ways. Thanks for proving me right! =D

But the thing you're failing miserably at is proving that Tobirama meant Minato's Hirashin and not his Body Flicker/high speed movement when he said "Shunshin".

WOW, i gave you proof & you brushed it off as IRRELEVANT, you make me facepalm so hard right now. Your rebuttals are to be laughed at as well :sy:

Space-Time is different from Shunshin and everyone knows it. Even your own scan proves it.

I never said that it wasnt, I said that teleportation (AKA hiraishin) can be interpreted both ways & you even admitted it yourself, no turning back now

Tobirama would've known it was Space-Time that Minato used IF he saw him use it.

Wrong, prove that tobirama would've known? You have such a terrible assumption based on this, all minto is doing is teleporting, theres no indication that minato used a space/time technique, so saying that tobirama knows what minato's s/t looks like just because he's an s/t user himself is utter bullsh*t for an argument.

But the fact is, Minato used Shunshin / Body Flicker / high-speed movement to reach the battlefield; which promoted Tobirama to compliment his Shunshin / Body Flicker / high-speed movement.

Opinion, tobi complimented his shunshin compared to his own, if it was a truly impressive "body-flicker" speed, then tobirama would've said your shunshin is better than "ours", referring to everyone's shunshin.

The only way that statement would make any sense by your logic is if tobirama had a faster body-flicker than the rest of the hokage. But wait....That doesnt make any sense either because tobirama arrived at the exact same time as hashi/hiruzen. Therefore if tobirama was comparing his shunshin to minato's then he would have to be a fast shunshin user, which he was shown not to be.

I had to repeat that multiple times for you to understand, but I doubt you will.

Oh I understand crystal clear, but its just your opinion because you cant prove it to be true xd

 

[ajpn920]

Minato was so fast that not only he speedblitzed all the other Hokages, but had time to surround something as large as the Juubi with his kunais, go to a rock near the sea to put his marking, come back and warped Juubi's Bijuudama there, have a chat with Naruto and Sakura, all that even before the Hokages finally came. His shunshin is far above any of the Hokages, something that Tobirama openly admitted. He was so much amazed that he could even say nothing else than "you're quick to act" with an amazed face when he also heard Minato even got time to put markings around the Juubi. What's funny is that he is that surprised when he infact saw nothing at all. He didn't know that Minato even got the time to go to a rock near a sea to put his marking, redirect Juubi's Bijuudama and tchat long before their arrival lol


Also, this :scorps:

True. Minato's speed is insane. The fastest man in NV.

@Draphsin: Minato is using shunshin and not FTG. Tobirama knows the difference between the two. If rin made a mistake then don't conclude that Tobirama will do the same because this guy has FTG as well. If he says shunshin then that's it. The evidence is Tobirama saying shunshin. What proof can you give that Minato is using FTG?

 

[Draphsin]

@Draphsin: Minato is using shunshin and not FTG. Tobirama knows the difference between the two.

No he doesnt, thats like assuming that minato knows what rasenshuriken is called just because he created the rasengan...Just because tobirama knows about s/t doesnt mean that he knows about the name "hiraishin" (flying thunder god).

If rin made a mistake then don't conclude that Tobirama will do the same because this guy has FTG as well.
If he says shunshin then that's it. The evidence is Tobirama saying shunshin.

Its not a mistake, rin called it shunshin, that means that FTG can be interpreted both ways. Rin calling it suinshin is a prime example of what someone who doesnt know the name of the jutsu calls it. Tobirama doesnt know the name of minato's jutsu, so he just associated it with shunshin, just like rin.

What proof can you give that Minato is using FTG?

He teleported to the kunai that he threw in front of naruto.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Minato always had great shnunshin.
The problem happens when people think his shunshin is above people who also use shunshin, but have gone a step further and added something extra.

If it is a pure shunshin and shunshin only battle, outside of shisui who we have no feats just hype, minato takes it

Anyway there are many things yet to be explained with the latest chapters, lets just put it that way.


I do believe Tobirama meant hiraishin as this isn't the first time translators have gotten the two mixed up.
But the trouble arises when you ask how they got there.

It is possible to get there with shunshin as the more chakra you put into the technique the greater the distance you can go, but its how quick you can get there with shunshin alone, that is the problem

However, what we must realise is that it was never stated that the hokage reached 'very quickly' after setting off from konoha. In fact, it could have taken them quite a long time a quite a bit did transpire. For that matter, the events with the hokage didn't have to be directly time-linked with the juubi battle. Maybe they were infact traveling for hours; in which case, shuushin would simply be used to boost their speed from time to time. But, seeing as they're edo's and minato's shuushin has been praised (by tobirama, and hiruzen) it isn't outside the realm of thinking to suppose that he camped infinite stamina to contain an almost endless shuushin, thus increasing the speed they reached they're greatly. Which means, they could have effectively done something like ay's V2 cloak movement, but without stop.
The only problem with that is that it wouldn't account for why sasuke was so close behind. But, then again, they could have FtG'd back for him at a certain point.

All in all, I think we can all agree that alot was left needing explanation.