So Madara is Back! And yet, Madara is gone...?

[Smd]

He was a terrible character to begin with.

who did madara solo that made you irate?

op- disagree, not proven that he cant use susanno, mabye its temporaily disabled in order to display other techniques, possibly the trump card.

We shouldnt make threads based off assumptions anymore

 

[Ahmed1993]

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During Madara's comeback yesterday I noticed something...our main villain (as awesome as he was) barely feels like Madara Uchiha anymore.

Last chapter got rid of Madara's ability to not only use Perfect Susanoo but now cannot actually use Sharingan at all...And when it comes down to it, a walking master sharingan was all that Madara really was. He mastery in the field and his use of Susanoo was unique- without it, he just seems like another Pein. Anyone with a rinnegan can do this sort of stuff and it seems like Madara may have just been brought down a level in terms of originality and interest.
The man has made himself an amalgamation of both himself and his rival Hashirama Senju, yet now he can use full Wood Style, Sage Mode & Regen- all of Hashi's powers he just seems to be a Hashirama clone. Honestly, he seems to be more Hashirama than Madara right now that Madara's 2 most iconic features have been taken away from him (his costume & his sharingan)

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I personally do not think a Rinnegan Wood Style villain seems like a great concept compared to other alternatives we've been offered in the form of the 10 tails, the Gedo Mazu, normal Madara Uchiha, Jin Madara, Jin Obito or Orochimaru... I personally thought the last chapter was good too but only in the 'badass awesome wicked cool' way that the inner kid inside you enjoys watching because explosions, flashy lights and one-liners are cool apparently but I really don't understand how people have started to sign his praises and hype him up as this number #1 ninja when his new moveset and resolve is....well, it's Hashirama.

Madara seems to have a bigger psychological identity crisis than Kabuto yet I bet THAT will never be explored in any depth/ended with an izanami because woah Madara explosions whooooosh wowwwwww~

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So yeah, Madara is back but you have to wonder, how much of him is actually back? Especially when he's ditched everything iconic about him to make himself into the one man who could defeat him. (and yeah i'm well aware this'll probably get flamed but whatever, try to be polite please)​

Madara is literally fighting everyone now so do you really think he has a chance against them by being Uchiha Madara ?
Of course not , he needs to transcend that and become Rikudo Madara .
The Uchiha and Senju were originally one being , and as we know the elder son and the Uchiha believe that power is the key to everything , so i think Madara's goal is coherent to his lineage.

 

[Booker]

I would have preferred he keep susano'o as well.

But I'm sure he'll get it back.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Madara is literally fighting everyone now so do you really think he has a chance against them by being Uchiha Madara ?
Of course not , he need to transcend that and become Rikudo Madara .
The Uchiha and Senju were originally one being , and as we know the elder son and the Uchiha believe that power is the key to everything , so i think Madara's goal is coherent to his lineage.

I agree and that idea for a villain is admittedly really very good but the manga needs to make it more obvious that that is Madara's intention. Also if he's the embodiment of both then he needs to use BOTH of their jutsu not just Hashi's.

 

[Ahmed1993]

I agree and that idea for a villain is admittedly really very good but the manga needs to make it more obvious that that is Madara's intention. Also if he's the embodiment of both then he needs to use BOTH of their jutsu not just Hashi's.

Well he was limited in Edo Tensei , and now he is blind , but even then he didn't use any of Hashi's jutsu this chapter ( except the accurate sensing of the SM ).
He used one Katon and one new absorption Jutsu ( with no Rinnegan or Mokuton ).

 

[Kurama2012]

I agree and that idea for a villain is admittedly really very good but the manga needs to make it more obvious that that is Madara's intention. Also if he's the embodiment of both then he needs to use BOTH of their jutsu not just Hashi's.

you do realise the man doesn't have his sharingan at the moment

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

you do realise the man doesn't have his sharingan at the moment

heck even before he had it hashi was like madara is good fighter u know when they were kids

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

you do realise the man doesn't have his sharingan at the moment

Mhm. I just hope he does get it before he goes on this 'bijuu hunt' of his, Madara is lame without it and it seems Kishi set up a Zetsu fight.

 

[Ahmed1993]

Mhm. I just hope he does get it before he goes on this 'bijuu hunt' of his, Madara is lame without it and it seems Kishi set up a Zetsu fight.

Imo no , he is not lame like that , we need to see other Madara skills instead of Susanoo every second.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Imo no , he is not lame like that , we need to see other Madara skills instead of Susanoo every second.

Dude I just want things wrapped up, there's no point making 5 chapters of Madara running around blind being cool when clearly the plot won't go anywhere when we all know he's just going to get his eyes back anyway.

 

[Ahmed1993]

Dude I just want things wrapped up, there's no point making 5 chapters of Madara running around blind being cool when clearly the plot won't go anywhere when we all know he's just going to get his eyes back anyway.

Still better than Obito's FB and the TNJ war between him and Naruto.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Still better than Obito's FB and the TNJ war between him and Naruto.

Personally loved that, guess it's just a difference in opinion. But yeah, I had my turn so if Madara does just show off for 5-10 chapters then go nuts :')

 

[Ahmed1993]

Personally loved that, guess it's just a difference in opinion. But yeah, I had my turn so if Madara does just show off for 5-10 chapters then go nuts :')

I still don't understand how Obito got this huge fanbase , i mean when we knew it was him in chapter 599 , everyone went hating and bashing and it got worse with his FB and his constant b!tching about the world , hope etc...

Income Juubi Jin Obito , and we have tons of fans , then they start bashing and hating again because of Obito behavior and his Rin sh*t.

After that , he loses and Madara takes over , and then we have Obito fans hating on Madara.

Those fans are weird , but i respect your opinion.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Dude I just want things wrapped up, there's no point making 5 chapters of Madara running around blind being cool when clearly the plot won't go anywhere when we all know he's just going to get his eyes back anyway.

thew point is to show how strong he is u hear everyday mainly leaf nin fans how boss the leaf and some others are then here comes madara crushing them shwoing u that no matter how strong u are some will be better in madara case rikudo and his sons beat him the whole new gen surpasses the old is misinterpreted


many think that they meant in terms of combat when it meant in terms as people

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

thew point is to show how strong he is u hear everyday mainly leaf nin fans how boss the leaf and some others are then here comes madara crushing them shwoing u that no matter how strong u are some will be better in madara case rikudo and his sons beat him the whole new gen surpasses the old is misinterpreted


many think that they meant in terms of combat when it meant in terms as people

For someone with such odd grammar you seriously are saying a lot of intelligent stuff...jfc, i'd never even thought of that misinterpretation- I really hope they go that route.

 

[kunde]

Madara became hashirama's b!tch when he stole hashi's DNA thats all. .

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I still don't understand how Obito got this huge fanbase , i mean when we knew it was him in chapter 599 , everyone went hating and bashing and it got worse with his FB and his constant b!tching about the world , hope etc...

Income Juubi Jin Obito , and we have tons of fans , then they start bashing and hating again because of Obito behavior and his Rin sh*t.

After that , he loses and Madara takes over , and then we have Obito fans hating on Madara.

Those fans are weird , but i respect your opinion.

Honestly at first I didn't like the Obito reveal either. I still would've far preferred my 'Tobi CLAN theory' or the Future Sasuke one, I didn't throw a tantrum or complain about it even if I didn't even care about lil kid Obito Uchiha at the time but I adored Serious Tobi and so once I got over the big reveal the love slowly came back.

He won me over with flawless writing and interesting imagery. Literally seeing Naruto's punch as his younger self hitting him, the amazing way he tried to demolish the Alliance emotionally and the unravelling of his mental state is some of the most interesting stuff i've ever seen in this manga, even if characters like Minato, the 10 tails and Kakashi tried to get in the way of it. The perfect finale to this final battle would've been Madara VS the Senju Brothers, Killer Bee and Guy killed before the Edo Kage even got here, Kakashi killed in the Kamui world, Madara defeated and then the Obito ending that ends with Sasuke assassinating Obito when he was powerless, creating that final arc.

Of course Kishi has his own end envisioned and i'm going to see how it pans out

 

[Madara Uzumaki Uchiha]

I agree, Madara should get his eyes back ASAP,
- however on Madara being a one dimensional character and that his only distinct qualities are his sharingan mastered techniques- I completely disagree
- we saw Madara's ideology as a child ( friendship with Hashirama) then after his last younger brothers death by tobirama we saw Madara start to change. He grew to hate the senju, and think that they could never mix with Uchiha because they were too different. Then, we saw Madara as a crippled old man preaching to Obito about peace.
And finally we have current madara , who after being forced to be stuck in a cave, to being revived in a dead body, to finally having the Ability to feel young again- Madaras complexity as a character is present, we have seen his character growth and how he changed from a kid to the man he is today- we see how he decided to offer his hand to Sasuke because he possibly felt kinship ( sees a resemblance with Izuna??) with him. Madaras character and ideals were stated In the last chapter- when he said he believed true happiness is achieved when apposite forces work together- however the true question is how to get both forces to work together ( younger son vs older son/ peacefully or forcefully) - its obvious that madara decided that forcefully is the way to go( Mabey he decided this after Hashiramas death, since Hashirama was unable to bring peace) You can extrapolate and guess that in the end Sasuke and naruto may succeed in proving Madara wrong.- if we see a final
transition In madaras character is up to kishimotto
In naruto we rarely get a first person point of view, which may make it seem like character development is lacking, but it is definitely there.

 

[Ahmed1993]

Honestly at first I didn't like the Obito reveal either. I still would've far preferred my 'Tobi CLAN theory' or the Future Sasuke one, I didn't throw a tantrum or complain about it even if I didn't even care about lil kid Obito Uchiha at the time but I adored Serious Tobi and so once I got over the big reveal the love slowly came back.

He won me over with flawless writing and interesting imagery. Literally seeing Naruto's punch as his younger self hitting him, the amazing way he tried to demolish the Alliance emotionally and the unravelling of his mental state is some of the most interesting stuff i've ever seen in this manga, even if characters like Minato, the 10 tails and Kakashi tried to get in the way of it. The perfect finale to this final battle would've been Madara VS the Senju Brothers, Killer Bee and Guy killed before the Edo Kage even got here, Kakashi killed in the Kamui world, Madara defeated and then the Obito ending that ends with Sasuke assassinating Obito when he was powerless, creating that final arc.

Of course Kishi has his own end envisioned and i'm going to see how it pans out

Well i quit like your ending ( except for Madara's defeat by the Senju brothers ) , but lets wait and see for Kishi's end which i assume will top even our imaginary ends ( yes i still have faith in him ).

 

[AlphaScythian]

Madar is exceptionally skilled shinobi. Right know he is basically SM hashirama since no eyes, but he adapted to it very well, so credit.