So Madara is Back! And yet, Madara is gone...?

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

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During Madara's comeback yesterday I noticed something...our main villain (as awesome as he was) barely feels like Madara Uchiha anymore.

Last chapter got rid of Madara's ability to not only use Perfect Susanoo but now cannot actually use Sharingan at all...And when it comes down to it, a walking master sharingan was all that Madara really was. He mastery in the field and his use of Susanoo was unique- without it, he just seems like another Pein. Anyone with a rinnegan can do this sort of stuff and it seems like Madara may have just been brought down a level in terms of originality and interest.
The man has made himself an amalgamation of both himself and his rival Hashirama Senju, yet now he can use full Wood Style, Sage Mode & Regen- all of Hashi's powers he just seems to be a Hashirama clone. Honestly, he seems to be more Hashirama than Madara right now that Madara's 2 most iconic features have been taken away from him (his costume & his sharingan)

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I personally do not think a Rinnegan Wood Style villain seems like a great concept compared to other alternatives we've been offered in the form of the 10 tails, the Gedo Mazu, normal Madara Uchiha, Jin Madara, Jin Obito or Orochimaru... I personally thought the last chapter was good too but only in the 'badass awesome wicked cool' way that the inner kid inside you enjoys watching because explosions, flashy lights and one-liners are cool apparently but I really don't understand how people have started to sign his praises and hype him up as this number #1 ninja when his new moveset and resolve is....well, it's Hashirama.

Madara seems to have a bigger psychological identity crisis than Kabuto yet I bet THAT will never be explored in any depth/ended with an izanami because woah Madara explosions whooooosh wowwwwww~

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So yeah, Madara is back but you have to wonder, how much of him is actually back? Especially when he's ditched everything iconic about him to make himself into the one man who could defeat him. (and yeah i'm well aware this'll probably get flamed but whatever, try to be polite please)​

 

[Wparker6804]

Well, no longer having Susano'o is a plus for the Alliance, and I don't mind.

But, yeah, Madara has dimmed.

 

[Wave.]

He was a terrible character to begin with.

 

[thunderthehybrid]

Madara is a sensor ninja so he can fight without eyes, and he's a monster. He doesn't need sharingan

 

[SanjiNL]

LMAO. Dat Forneverworld.

OT: I don't really mind or anything.

 

[The Sach]

His sharingan isn't back yet, and that's not Madara's fault at all, it's not identity crisis, it's the freaking situation that has been created by plot, and probably he will get back his sharingan soon, we should just stay tuned.:yeah:

 

[King of Hell]

Well if he takes Sasuke's eyes then I'm gonna get really pissed.

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

The most OP character is obviously the clones

 

[Wolfus]

I agree with some parts. Madara does seem very different now, without his classic uchiha powers or even the rinnegan. However, there's more about madara than his powers. There is his character, his personality, the badass way he always act. That, my friend, will stay. We'll still se madara acting in his classic way.
And nevertheless, he'll get this powers back, we'll just have to wait.

And about the explosions, they are part of the fight. The fights are cool, and they are important. They're part of the plot as well. If I wanted to see people chatting all the time, I would see ophra.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Well, no longer having Susano'o is a plus for the Alliance, and I don't mind.

But, yeah, Madara has dimmed.

Yeah but to be hoenst i'm hardly on the Alliance's side :') it's meant to be the finale and if they didn't wrap things up with Obito like they should've then they need to make Madara as strong as possible so that Naruto doesn't cakewalk his way through 2 fights in a row. But hey if it means we wrap things up quicker then i'm all for it.

 

[rollin]

I don't think hashi can absorb chakra from someone like madara did and that katon was definitely madara and had nothing to do with hashi
Madara knows who he is,he said that he's both senju and uchiha in one person

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

LMAO. Dat Forneverworld.

OT: I don't really mind or anything.

Omg I just saw him, I didn't even notice.

Ugh, I hate that guy. DEFINITION of Narutard.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I agree with some parts. Madara does seem very different now, without his classic uchiha powers or even the rinnegan. However, there's more about madara than his powers. There is his character, his personality, the badass way he always act. That, my friend, will stay. We'll still se madara acting in his classic way.
And nevertheless, he'll get this powers back, we'll just have to wait.

And about the explosions, they are part of the fight. The fights are cool, and they are important. They're part of the plot as well. If I wanted to see people chatting all the time, I would see ophra.

I didn't say the explosions were bad I was just saying how it was only really my inner child that revels in it when my brain is telling me that generic powerhouses don't make for interesting characters and I shouldnt be enjoying this. Explosions and pew pew pew lazers are great- it's just I AM going to joke about them. It's why I liked the way Obito was dealt with but don't want to see the same thing happen again yknow?

And no i'm sorry I have to disagree with the Maddy point. Take away Madara's Jutsu and all you have left is arrogance. Madara does NOT have a personality besides that one personality trait. It's cool to watch in moderation and if he's left to a role where the plot doesn't call for more (not being the final villain for example) it's totally fine but he is just a walking ball of arrogance with no real character to identify. There are LOADS of arrogant characters in this manga and Kimimaro, Kabuto, Dosu, Kakazu, Kisame, Sasori, Deidara, Pain, A, Neji and Sasuke were all more interesting than this guy we currently have.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

i'm like wtf when hahsi says madara got his powers from the past back so madara wasnt using his original skills the whole time ????

 

[Kurama2012]

what do you think zetsu is trying to do ermm get madara his eyes back it only makes sense at this stage that madara has no eyes if he had been brought to life with his eyes then the base would flip and call it a plot hole just wait and let kishi get round to giving him, his eyes back
so until then madara will have to rely on the senju dna

 

[Wolfus]

I didn't say the explosions were bad I was just saying how it was only really my inner child that revels in it when my brain is telling me that generic powerhouses don't make for interesting characters and I shouldnt be enjoying this. Explosions and pew pew pew lazers are great- it's just I AM going to joke about them. It's why I liked the way Obito was dealt with but don't want to see the same thing happen again yknow?

And no i'm sorry I have to disagree with the Maddy point. Take away Madara's Jutsu and all you have left is arrogance. Madara does NOT have a personality besides that one personality trait. It's cool to watch in moderation and if he's left to a role where the plot doesn't call for more (not being the final villain for example) it's totally fine but he is just a walking ball of arrogance with no real character to identify. There are LOADS of arrogant characters in this manga and Kimimaro, Kabuto, Dosu, Kakazu, Kisame, Sasori, Deidara, Pain, A, Neji and Sasuke were all more interesting than this guy we currently have.

But you said like the fighting part was just made for our inner child, when that's not true. The fighting is also a part of the char, the way he battles, if he palns, if he is caution, or if he just goes all out, how one deals with the enemy, etc. So they're cool and important. But sorry if I missunderstood you, but it did seem as if fights are for children only.

Not actually. Madara's arrogance is a reflex of how confident he is about his own powers, abilities and plans. The way he acts, not giving a damn about any of his oponents, no matter their power, and not caring about killing and hummliating them. This is his char, and I think it's great for a villain. And that, this behavior, madara wont lose.

 

[RikudouMadara]

No....he's still there....it is the mind that is the builder.....the body Is the result. Madara is more Madara than anything I believe... He has just taken what he wanted is all. Kakashi would be more of everything else....as he has copied so many other techs, and Obitos powers. It all depends on ones perception...it is his personality that makes him unique imo. Although....I feel this is a very surreptitious attempt to influence the minds of others to this image you have of him. Not saying that is the case I will not accuse you....though I personally feel that it is.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

No....he's still there....it is the mind that is the builder.....the body Is the result. Madara is more Madara than anything I believe... He has just taken what he wanted is all. Kakashi would be more of everything else....as he has copied so many other techs, and Obitos powers. It all depends on ones perception...it is his personality that makes him unique imo. Although....I feel this is a very surreptitious attempt to influence the minds of others to this image you have of him. Not saying that is the case I will not accuse you....though I personally feel that it is.

I'm no Madara hater man don't worry about it, i'm a little disappointed with where his character has been headed ever since he beat the 5 Kage but I just wanted to see if anybody else had been thinking this. Personally I don't understand the huge amount of bandwagoners going around like Madara is the definition of badass (he probably is but not from this last chapter imo)

It's just that I don't see much to Madara other than his abilities, he seems to be a man whose power formed his personality and not the other way around.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

I'm no Madara hater man don't worry about it, i'm a little disappointed with where his character has been headed ever since he beat the 5 Kage but I just wanted to see if anybody else had been thinking this. Personally I don't understand the huge amount of bandwagoners going around like Madara is the definition of badass (he probably is but not from this last chapter imo)

It's just that I don't see much to Madara other than his abilities, he seems to be a man whose power formed his personality and not the other way around.

u find out about who he is from the chap showing him and hashi as kids

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

But you said like the fighting part was just made for our inner child, when that's not true. The fighting is also a part of the char, the way he battles, if he palns, if he is caution, or if he just goes all out, how one deals with the enemy, etc. So they're cool and important. But sorry if I missunderstood you, but it did seem as if fights are for children only.

Not actually. Madara's arrogance is a reflex of how confident he is about his own powers, abilities and plans. The way he acts, not giving a damn about any of his oponents, no matter their power, and not caring about killing and hummliating them. This is his char, and I think it's great for a villain. And that, this behavior, madara wont lose.

Oh no way do I think all the battles are childish, I don't want a politics anime that's for sure :') Nah Naruto is a fight anime and that's awesome and lots of the fights are amazing and so important to the characters within them, it's just the people who see literally nothing in the show other than the OP abilities and the big DBZ-esque battles. It's the Susanoo, TBB pew pew pew standing on the spot stuff that makes the anime slightly dumber and simplified than it has to be sometimes. Especially when Kishi does 'Hype of the Week' and picks a character for him to randomly hype the crap out of for the next month or so (He did it for Itachi, Minato, Hashirama and Tobirama and literally the only reason he does it to the extent he does is because of the shonen audience, who go batsh*t over cool shallow characters with OP abilities and can stand on the spot pulling cool poses and saying one-liners. I'm not saying Madara is one of these things, it's just what I mean by childish

And all of those traits really do seem to come under the same category, Madara is literally the human embodiment of a proud Lion. And lions aren't especially deep because hey, they don't need to be- they're at the top of the food chain. The only different and interesting thing I found with Madara after his revival was his random fixation on "dancing" with his opponents, like he kept bringing that up and it was quite funny.

But yeah we've had many other villains who I just personally think were far more interesting (Obito, Kabuto and Deidara especially)