[Discussion] So luffy stronger than doflamingo/marco/sabo/jack now???
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Doflamingo? With Snake Man? Um... maybe. Sabo? Maybe too. How much of a difference are Marco and Jack than Katakuri? We don’t know. Luffy needs to fix his own problems:
- Gear 4th time duration
- The need to rest for 10 or whatever
Once he’s past these two problems, the course of the battles would be in his favor. Other than that, Luffy would struggle through hell to win.
- Gear 4th time duration
- The need to rest for 10 or whatever
Once he’s past these two problems, the course of the battles would be in his favor. Other than that, Luffy would struggle through hell to win.
Hes stronger than Doflamingo and Jack for sure.
Sabo has been training but i have a feeling that now Luffy will be ahead of him from here on out. Big bro cant be stronger forever after all.
As for Marco, they should be on the same level but since Luffy is the leader of the alliance that will beat Kaido, Luffy should be able to edge him out.
So yeah hes stronger than all these guys.
Sabo has been training but i have a feeling that now Luffy will be ahead of him from here on out. Big bro cant be stronger forever after all.
As for Marco, they should be on the same level but since Luffy is the leader of the alliance that will beat Kaido, Luffy should be able to edge him out.
So yeah hes stronger than all these guys.
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I still don't know if Luffy could put Doffy down in his first G4 but he seems to be doing better after G4 expires now since he wasn't motionless after using it during the fight with Kata. If Luffy still stays like he did after G4 in DR than Luffy can't beat Doffy yet, he needs to show he has increased the duration of G4 or reduced the after effect before we can say he absolutely beats him 1v1 at 100% imo.
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Jack is weaker than Katakuri (mid-high to high diff material) and Marco is approximately equal to him. Sabo is the only unknown since he has questionable portrayal.
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Luffy been stronger than Doflaimngo and defeated him with G4 bounceman. As for Marco, Jack, and Sabo he might not be. Sabo fights evenly with Admirals on average while Marco and Jack are as strong as Dogtooth. So the similar circumstances and or strength conditions/stamina may require the same.
stronger than even in bounceman G4 mode: Luffy>>>Dofy Luffy>>Cracker (Warlord of the Sea level)
Complete toss up all the way up to Snakeman G4 mode: Dogtooth, Burguess maybe, Marco, and Jack (yonkou first mate level)
Completely stronger than all the way up to Snakeman: Sabo
stronger than even in bounceman G4 mode: Luffy>>>Dofy Luffy>>Cracker (Warlord of the Sea level)
Complete toss up all the way up to Snakeman G4 mode: Dogtooth, Burguess maybe, Marco, and Jack (yonkou first mate level)
Completely stronger than all the way up to Snakeman: Sabo
Jack aint FM level dude, the sooner you accept that the less disappointed you will be come Wano. Hes like Kaidos 3rd strongest crew member, King and Queen are stronger.
Sabo did nothing to Fujitora, in fact Luffy did more damage with a basic Elephant gun than what Sabo did. Like i said Sabo cant be stronger than Luffy forever so its inconceivable to me how people still think hes going to be stronger than Luffy when Luffy will have wins against Katakuri and eventually Kaido on his resume.
Sabo aint stronger than katakuri either or Marco.
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As if being first mate automatically means strongest fighter in the crew. Well, it is a trend that Oda applies, but only on those like Zoro, Mr. 1, Ben Beckman, etc. Still, there are crew members that are stronger than their first mates.
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As of now that's a theory, I'm not saying that it won't change later on. In the last arc people thought Vergo was Doflamingo's first mate just because he said that they were close or right hand man. Later on we learned that it wasn't even close and it was Trebol that is the first mate.
All i'm saying is that as for now jack is the guy, though i don't believe that the other commanders are Queen and King.
Fujitori threw all his attacks from Gravity Blade, Raging Tiger, and other Buso haki attacks at Sabo yet they did nothing. In fact when they clashed it was evenly matched and one was unable to hurt the other. In the end of the battle both of them ended at a standstill agreeing to leave everything up to Luffy (gamble):
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That's literally up for debate but Sabo fought Diamante,Vice-Admiral Bastille, Jesus Burgess, and Admiral Issho during this whole arc. He didn't lose a single battle the whole time he was there, In fact he one-shot some of those names I just listed.
So take it as you will but you can't deny that his feats are comparable to Marco if not better.
Right now you're speaking through a character portrayal and hype. Right?
Edit: Luffy's G3 is physically powerful, I'm not surprised that it did that to Issho especially when G3 clashed with Power Mochi when applying more will too.
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If thats what you believe then so be it, i dont get why people think the first commander shown would be the strongest but whatever. Cracker was revealed before the others and was the weakest. i dont see why that would be different given everything we know but whatever.
Sabo had plenty of scratches on his face and was visibly huffing during that battle and Fuji wasnt even remotely serious with him. If you can watch Sabo fight a non serious Admiral and get that Sabo is on that level then why dont people consider Luffy on that level as well for bruising him, or when Jozu gave Aokiji a lip bleed?
And so what? Are you seriously going to sit here and tell me that Diamante, Bastille, and Jesus Burgess are doing anything to Katakuri or Marco? Are you telling me that Katakuri wouldnt perform similar to Sabo or better against Fujitora? Are you of the notion just because we havent seen Kata go up against an Admiral he would be fodderized by one? Thats some silly logic if thats the case and i have seen people overrate characters for just fighting an Admiral. Sabo and Marco ironically enough get put on pedestals because they fought Admirals, but fighting and hurting one are two completely different things. And i have yet to see anyone outside of WB hurting one without assistance.
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You can’t base your thoughts on something that
Hasn’t happened, for all we know, Oda will have his alliance fail.
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Lol, 3rd commander level haha... You jokers make me laugh with your titles.
OT: I'd say he could beat Jack from what we've seen... My take would be in Mammoth form Jack will be able to take the attacks for quite a while but seeing Luffy's stamina and speed I rate he'd take the win.
Marco, just by hype and really want, he takes this one.
Doffy... Easily. He's quite clearly increased the size of G4 and even if he hadn't he can break through anything Doffy puts up, whether fresh or not a couple of those bad boy's sits him down.
And as for Sabo, Luffy has always been portrayed as weaker, with Sabo now having the mera-mera too there's no way he's taking him.
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It's like what I said just past through your head because you clearly didn't read my post properly. I just said that what we see now is what we get. He was said to be Jack's right hand man and he holds a billion bounty just like Dogtooth. So as of now he holds that position and it may or may not change.
Cracker is not the weakest that would obviously be Snack. On top of that Cracker has better showings then Smoothie anyways.
1.Jozu landed a surprise attack as well did Luffy. Even Crocodile did the same to Akainu. Anyone of Warlord level are able to do that, so I don't count it. Sabo on the other hand fought Issho one on one.
2.There isn't any scratches or fatigued. I just showed you a page of Sabo's condition with no scratches on his face and you're telling me that it was the opposite? What is wrong with you?
He received no scratches period. Not a single attack landed so deal with it.
So honestly what part of "comparable" didn't you understand? I already categorized Marco to be in the same level as Dogtooth and all the feats I just listed proved that Sabo is above the like of the levels that are latter down.
His feats are comparable and he's shown to stalemate an admiral. You're speculation to whether he is serious or not is as baseless as your ideal of what you want the Admirals to be.
Like I said before, they stalemated. Issho failed to land a single hit on Sabo and the page I posted earlier proves this regardless if you want to dignify it or not.
And if you want to see another person that hurt an Admiral without assistance, look at what Rayleigh did to Kizaru.