I don't see what years have to do with it.... the hype in question isn't about anbu kakashi or Gaiden kakashi but current kakashi. irrelevant from the point and the hype.
she had 0 other options for the sra mission, and she wasn't gonna let him go after the immortals without Kakashi.
I already acknowledged that.
yet it ended up being 1v1's...and I'm quite sure he did have intel. Seeing as how the sound 4 fought the leaf twice b4.
he outsmarted her once, at the cost of his finger, and still had to get saved by temari.
Dosent compare to kakashi's mid match feats.
that's to get kakazu's blood on hidan's blade and to try force kakazu to use his abilities.
your acting like Kakashi doesn't have multiple step plans. Against kaguya he cut her arm cutting off her attack options, used kamui on bone spike cutting off her portal options, and had sakura lie in wait cutting off her flight options.
prodigy? Yes. Being as smart as shikamaru? No. How can he be hyped to be as smart as someone who isn't born yet?
wasn't shikamaru crying cuz his first Chunin mission went bad?
yet your holding kakashi accountable for being in the same situation with kaguya. ..
which didn't work
hinata and sakura rallied the troops too... so I'm not really seeing your point with this.
oh please bruh, that was a father son moment. He'd be a jerk if his last words was leaving it to kakashi. that was shikaku's role, kakashi was busy fighting the 7 swordsmen and obito.
already addressed.
Naruto blitzed her, and overpowered her. Things he could do at any given moment, no plans necessary. Y? The power difference between them was minor.
obito had kamui and again he needed naruto and sakura to even pull it off.
Because Sakura could land hits on the god of nv without a plan from kakashi...
None of which has to do with the situation in which he made her useful.
due to kakashi's plan.
age has nothing to do with the hype in question.
Greatest lie in the history of the manga.
You brought up Asuma dying so I brought up Kakashi being leader and people dying on his watch plus wasn't Asuma the leader of the team at the time of his death? Differences is Kakashi was a jounin, meaning he was seen to have a greater outlook and focus than a Chunin yet Shikamaru as a Chunin loses 1 person on his team and you bring that up when Kakashi lose both of his teammates and sensei. I wasn't talking about Sasuke retrieval team at that point, after they failed to get Sasuke Tsunade gave Shikamaru leadership roles for a lot of missions so he would gain more experiences as Kakashi Gaiden to part 1 and 2 Kakashi had gained over time so me bring up Kakashi Gaiden plays more than 1 role.
She told him she'll give him more missions to give him experiences after failing to get Sasuke in the anime and they didn't know what the sound 4 could do since they only used a barrier during the Chunin exam for the most part plus Shikamaru didn't know who Orochimaru might of sent, he guessed it might have been chunin's or jounin level ninjas and asked for Chunins and jounins to be on his team. Shikamaru outsmarted Her before they fought when they tricked her to get Sasuke (in the container)
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. Did it again after that, he also took control of her chakra monsters
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Shikamaru have keen analyzing skills while Kakashi have the added help of the Sharingan to improve his already good analyzing skills yet Shikamaru has been shown to read Tayuya's movements from her finger placement. He wasn't trying to force Kakuza to use his abilities, that was a backup incase the first plan failed, that's why he told Kakashi if he gets a chance to use it and they had both Kakuza and Hidan trapped until Kakuza freed himself. Shikamaru figured out about the hearts before using Kakuza blood
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they seen what Kakuza can do thanks to Shikamaru's strategy and Kakashi's fighting skills; I will give Kakashi credit because he did use some analyzing skills himself but the overall analyze and plan was Shikamaru which earned him praised from Kakashi, Kakuza, and Sakura. Kakashi didn't even know how to fight them, he asked Shikamaru what they should do
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Shikamaru use multi-steps strategies in all his fights, Kakashi doesn't, he uses the Sharingan to see through most ninjutsu and counters with his own Attack or outsmart them with a clone while Shikamaru actually have welled detailed plans plus backup plans incase something happens since they wouldn't know everything the enemy could do. Who said he was hype to be better than Shikamaru? His skills and smarts were hyped in general and him being able to tapidly raise through the rank at such an early age shows he is smart since you need to be more than just brawns which is why Sasuke, Naruto, and Neji weren't made Chunins like Shikamaru who was purely brains.
Wasn't Kakashi crying because he thought he Obito died on his first mission as a Jounin? Then again with Rin's death? Anime showed how much their death impacted Kakashi and when Kakashi found out what Obito became he was depressed and mad at himself. Hinata rallied Naruto who rallied everyone, Sakura rallied everyone by using Naruto as an inspiration while Shikamaru made everyone believe in their own strength. No, Shikaku would be a big jerk to leave the role of strategist to someone who isn't the best, the father son moment was their convo of saying goodbye, this is a war, it's not the time and place to choose someone who can't best handle the planning.
It was Shikaku's role because he was the best at strategies, had Kakashi been better he would be where Shikaku was and Shikaku would be fighting. Shikamaru was given his role as lead strategist because he's the next best one after his father, simple as that. No plan nessacary? Naruto plan is what allowed him to hit her when Sasuke couldn't, what allowed him to trick her when he was fighting her allow, then when she was weakened he blitz her to harm her. 2 of 3 times were from planning and the other from her being low on chakra and trying to gather more.
That's his own power so why wouldn't he have it? Obito used his brain to even figure out what they should and could do and used them as part of his strategy just as Kakashi did with his Kaguya plan, he couldn't do his plan without Naruto, Sakura, or Sasuke but it was still his planning right? Same with Obito and Shikamaru have no special power but his brain yet he fights people stronger than him and usually comes out on top. Naruro as a genin fought Chunin and jounin level ninjas and beat them in part 1 due to his unique strategies. You called her useless yet she did just as much if not more then Kakashi, she helped saved Sasuke and helped beat Kaguya while Kakashi helped beat Kaguya. So Kaguya was only useful after getting Obito's power while Sakura has been useful with her own power? Ok then, even Obito said he had to go back to save Kakashi
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Age has everything to due with the hype in question, how do you think Kakashi skills in analyzing and forming plans improved from when he was in Kakashi Gaiden? By gaining battle experiences throughout the years while Shikamaru has shown experiences improve his strategic mind from his plans in part 1 to what they are in part 2. Oh is it? So Naruto, Sasuke, Lee, Shikamaru, Gaara, Temari, Sakura, Choji, or Shino didn't surpass the likes of Iruka, Kakashi, Kurenai, Gai, Asuma, Anko, ect....? They're in their 30-33 yrs right now and many of them surpassed their teachers in some way before the 12 yrs time skip.
