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So just paintings of earth?
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Frankly, nothing would surprise me at this point.
That said, I do not see a whole lot of convincing evidence to suggest that the planet is other than a sphere.
Not to say that the pictures in question have not been 'enhanced' or 'altered' in some way, shape, or form. Simply because the Earth is a sphere does not mean that photos of it have not been edited to remove certain important things... or fabricated, entirely - for whatever reason.
I can paint a picture of my back yard, or use computer graphics to edit a picture of it to get rid of my car, add in a UFO, and have a dragon breathing fire out of my room, which has now been moved to be hanging from the UFO, overlooking the prison, and setting everyone on fire.
Or... that could all be really happening, and the picture of my back yard lacking those things is the fake. The world may never know.
That said, I do not see a whole lot of convincing evidence to suggest that the planet is other than a sphere.
Not to say that the pictures in question have not been 'enhanced' or 'altered' in some way, shape, or form. Simply because the Earth is a sphere does not mean that photos of it have not been edited to remove certain important things... or fabricated, entirely - for whatever reason.
I can paint a picture of my back yard, or use computer graphics to edit a picture of it to get rid of my car, add in a UFO, and have a dragon breathing fire out of my room, which has now been moved to be hanging from the UFO, overlooking the prison, and setting everyone on fire.
Or... that could all be really happening, and the picture of my back yard lacking those things is the fake. The world may never know.
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They are clearly painted, NASA even admitted them to be inauthentic.
I just hate that even after releasing such a statement and it's been so long since then, they still haven't been taken down. And the fact there are 0 real images on Google at the search word "earth" is even more disgruntling.
It isn't obvious and never was. If it was, there wouldn't be countless debates spanning over centuries. The debates confirm to why the shape of the earth is only decided by the human's reality of an era, as different era's each have a prevailing scientific notion which then aids defining what they perceive. In one era, the earth was flat, in another it was a perfect globe, nowadays it isn't a perfect globe but rather oblate.
Perhaps in a distant future, our brains will be so advanced that such a simple shape as round will be thought as incorrect for defining the earth's model.
I don't know what the shape of the earth is and cannot say, but from what I can tell, it isn't perfectly round nor perfectly flat, it could be in between or nearer one of the other.
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I always get confused of space images if they are taken by actual cameras or if they simulate stuff, some images are kinda scary, it's scary to think we have sent out stuff that takes images and stuff from far away.
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You mean oblate? These were released by NASA though, what purpose would they have to lie about it?
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Yes so it's more oval looking. I don't know if theyre lying maybe it's the angle or to make it pleasing to the eye.
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Just stop it. Are you looking for a dragon to slay? Is Earth any different than the sun and moon in creation?
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I'm no flat earther, I just know a painting when I see one. Earth could be round like it is commonly agreed, but I'm in no position to say it is as I wouldn't really make a good argument for it. Because I once said it was round to some guy but ended up on the receiving end because he could actually support his thing while I had these bogus images as proof and not many cases either to follow. To stay safe, I'm in Limbo right now, not saying it is either until I can satisfy my standing.
It could be unrelated to the earth's shape, but it's got to be big that powerhouse countries like Russia and China all sign in on just protecting the pole's secrets. There's people that have gone there even so, but they were turned back by the military lol.
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Ever witnessed a lunar eclipse? You aware of time zones? You aware that every other planet in our solar system is round? You aware that every planet we've discovered outside of our solar system is round? The evidence for the Earth being round is so overwhelming, to be unsure to the shape of the Earth would require an immense amount of ignorance. There are so many paths you can take to proving that the Earth is round; both inductively and deductively, that skepticism/doubt is not justified.
The fact that you're questioning whether or not the pictures of the Earth are legitimate pictures, leads me to believe that you are in fact looking into matters related to the shape of the Earth, but leaning towards the Earth being flat.
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And the point of this thread is what exactly? And I really suggest you give me a summarized and very convincing explanation as currently I'm really not convinced of the need of this thread existing in this section.
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No. Flat earth proponents make good argument for why it's also possible on a flat earth. The sun and moon are proportionally the same on the so called flat earth and are moving at varying speeds with either being faster, I never care to remember which, and once in a while the other catches up to the other and that's when you get the lunar eclipse.
The shitty thing is there's argument for that existing on a flat earth as well.
The above two I can agree with but this one is another bogus thing I personally would argue against. All Pluto images are paintings as well as images of the rest of the planets. And stars aren't necessarily spherical, anything that glows really would take a round shape from a distance even if it's some luminescent rock of weird shapes, just as the head lights of a car do.
Moon landings may be real, I'm more convinced than I am not that they are, but how do you believe that when you don't have real pictures of these so called planets? Show me a real picture of one of them, and if it's not a painting I won't press further.
My own observations and common sense stack up against them that's the thing, and I didn't say I was anywhere near flat earth thinking, I'm just bothered by the paintings.
Why won't anyone just seriously consider the paintings for a second and look into them instead of try to find a bigger picture to this when this Isn't?
It doesn't really matter to me what shape it is as much as I would like to think it affects my daily life, which it kind of does in a way if I'm thinking I'm in a trapped space without a way out or if I'm on a spinning ball wobbling in outer space. I don't care either way, it's not something I would investigate extensively on.
And I actually had a question along the lines of: how are the images not blurry if they were taken manually by an archaic camera from the moon if the planet's orbiting at 1000 mph which was a humor question I had as a kid but actually are considering to be legit as an adult, BUT this was before I found out they are in fact just paintings and got pissed a little, and decided to delete the question altogether.
If I have to explain myself: my issue or my issue within this thread isn't with the science, but rather lack or non existent images of our home planet. The science is another story for anoyher day.
And there's no stupid or ignorance in science where there's curiosity. You can't call someone ignorant for being curious of a possibility of something else or just being curious, no matter how sound the theory is.
What is even science if it's going to be swept under the rug and never be questioned again? Bs science if you ask me.
I sort of explain it above. Just take it as my probing on how the only images on earth put up on Google are mere paintings and the images I provided being the examples.
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