So it's confirmed: Obito is stronger than Madara ever was

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Half dead Obito resisted Kaguya's will 2times when Madara was reduced to nothingness despite being a perfect Jubi's host

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Nuff said :eww:
 

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Nope Madara was already possessed by Kaguya before all that happened, the god tree has a huge part in this. Also, Madara's will is stronger as he became the jinchuriki of the juubi without any struggle.
 

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madara was betrayed ,, he wasn't prepared for it ,, while obito was ...and had the way how to fight it .
 

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Obito > Madara, not in general but yeah.
 

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Nope Madara was already possessed by Kaguya before all that happened, the god tree has a huge part in this. Also, Madara's will is stronger as he became the jinchuriki of the juubi without any struggle.

I was just about to agree with this noob too lol, thanks.
 

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Dat Law Obito :cool:

But I must say one thing, Obito faced her Will 2 times 1. Juubi 2. Black Zetsu but this time She cooperated with both of them. Juubi/Shinju inside Madara + Kuro Zetsu doing some shit from the outside.

Nonetheless, Lawd Obitos Will is unmatched.
 

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shinju came out of obito and into madara. obito rejected that ***** bc she wasnt cute like rin
madar had to deal with the IT chakra and bz,
 

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Nope Madara was already possessed by Kaguya before all that happened, the god tree has a huge part in this. Also, Madara's will is stronger as he became the jinchuriki of the juubi without any struggle.
Madara absorbed Jubi without the holy tree(when he absorbed it, Obito already removed it from his body). Obito had the holy tree inside him from the start. He is the one who overcame Kaguya's will power and strength as well as the Shinju power in the end when Madara was reduced to nothingness
 

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Half dead Obito resisted Kaguya's will 2times when Madara was reduced to nothingness despite being a perfect Jubi's host

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Nuff said :eww:

This explains why Madara became a perfect jinchuriki. Kaguya who could well be the juubi never opposed Madara because she needed him to absorb her to fulfil her plans. This is why Madara is apparently weaker than Obito. It is possible that Kaguya never gave all his power to Madara in the first place and Obito managed to subdue her through sheer will to obtain all her power.
 

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Madara absorbed Jubi without the holy tree(when he absorbed it, Obito already removed it from his body). Obito had the holy tree inside him from the start. He is the one who overcame Kaguya's will power and strength as well as the Shinju power in the end when Madara was reduced to nothingness

False, Madara's Juubi was stronger than Obito's. Obito never absorbed the god tree. Madara on the other hand also did that.

The Juubi doesn't already have the god tree inside, it evolves into the god tree.

Also, overcame Kaguya's will? how? I didn't see Obito being stabbed through the heart.... Obito was a simple pawn..rofl.


Obito = Madara's pawn

Madara = Kaguya's pawn

Kaguya = nobody's pawn
 

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False, Madara's Juubi was stronger than Obito's. Obito never absorbed the god tree. Madara on the other hand also did that.

The Juubi doesn't already have the god tree inside, it evolves into the god tree.

Also, overcame Kaguya's will? how? I didn't see Obito being stabbed through the heart.... Obito was a simple pawn..rofl.


Obito = Madara's pawn

Madara = Kaguya's pawn

Kaguya = nobody's pawn
Dude do you even read the manga? Obito had the god tree inside his body since the start. He is the one who removed it later [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

When Madara absorbed Jubi, he never had the holy tree inside him until Kaguya asked him to absorb it [ ]

Not to mention once again, Obito was half dead.

Who manipulated who has nothing to do with what i'm saying
 

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Nope madara became the juubi without becoming fat and stupid. So his will is stronger than obito's
 

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This was confirmed like 200 chapters ago. :cool: :hypertobi:
 

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Dude do you even read the manga? Obito had the god tree inside his body since the start. He is the one who removed it later [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

When Madara absorbed Jubi, he never had the holy tree inside him until Kaguya asked him to absorb it [ ]

Not to mention once again, Obito was half dead.

Who manipulated who has nothing to do with what i'm saying
Again, thank you from proving my point that the juubi simply became the God Tree itself..... Thank you my friend.


Obito still had a heart beating.. Zetsu was keeping him alive.. Madara on the other hand got his HEART destroyed..
 

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This was confirmed like 200 chapters ago. :cool: :hypertobi:
Indeed :cool:
Again, thank you from proving my point that the juubi simply became the God Tree itself..... Thank you my friend.


Obito still had a heart beating.. Zetsu was keeping him alive.. Madara on the other hand got his HEART destroyed..
Thanks for proving me you don't read the manga. You know Kakashi destroyed Obito's heart right?
 

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Dude do you even read the manga? Obito had the god tree inside his body since the start. He is the one who removed it later [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ]

When Madara absorbed Jubi, he never had the holy tree inside him until Kaguya asked him to absorb it [ ]

Not to mention once again, Obito was half dead.

Who manipulated who has nothing to do with what i'm saying

This right here.
 

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From the looks of it, Kaguya never had any intentions of taking of Obito, as Black Zetzu who is and was Kaguya's will, called him trash.
 

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Is that why, Madara suppressed the Juubi instantly upon becoming Jinchuuriki, wheres Obito struggle?​
 

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He had more willpower.
That's it.
 
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