So i just saw The Flash S01E01

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Used to be faster. Flash has the power of the speed force, Superman is not topping that.
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In a race in the desert, Flash is so fast he goes to the city to get them a case of bottled water, runs back to the finish line, and draws his logo in the dirt before Superman can catch up.

Versus flying speed it is far more ambiguous because apparently the writers shy away from the topic. Nonetheless we do have two data points. In JLA vol 3 #21, Superman explicitly states, "I'm not faster than light--!" (for the purpose of a partially in atmosphere flying rescue), Wally is about to volunteer saying "I can--" (in that he is faster than light) but the issue is resolved by Flash using his speed-lending power. This was written by Mark Waid... a man who adores Superman having written some of the most iconic Superman stories (Kingdom Come, Birthright) and he's certainly an Flash expert having written Wally for years... so if in Waid's opinion Flash is faster than Superman, even flying, I think it's reasonable to defer to him.

Granted, there is one blurb where someone else talking about Superman claims he flies FTL in space (and there are a handful of comics where he just appears places and we presume FTL although there is no on-panel mention)... I would still tend to consider Waid a better authority, but even then you can reconcile the two by adding atmosphere to the equation. In modern continuity there are several references to the fact that Superman does NOT have an aura like the Flashes... so traveling through the atmosphere rips it up (sonic booms and the like)... he uses this to explode a boat in South America. This is consistent with the time Superman flew to the middle east to catch Lois after she was shot. There is no way he would hold back in that situation, but his clocked speed was nowhere near light speed... so if we must reconcile we can say Superman won't use FTL in atmosphere.

The second data point is when Morrison said the same thing (yet another authority on both Superman and Flash- a man who wrote All Star Superman at the epitome of his power and who cemented Superman with a 853 century long legacy in DC One Million... but he also wrote Flash for a while both in his book and JLA, and gave Wally some of his greatest feats) so again, I would defer to the experts actually writing the books.

In sum, though fan oft like to debate it... it would seem the issue is settled in the minds of Johns, Waid, Morrison, etc.
 

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Do people even know there are 2 different Flashes?
The one in the tv show is Barry Alen.

Spoiler alert!




he dies.




Wally West is the Flash most everyone knows and yes, he is faster.
Barry is not.
Do you even know that there are 3 flashes.

Jay Garrick was the first one.

Some people know Barry too. Anyway the show is following Barry right now so we dont know where things will lead to and whether he will die.
 

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Do you even know that there are 3 flashes.

Jay Garrick was the first one.

Some people know Barry too. Anyway the show is following Barry right now so we dont know where things will lead to and whether he will die.
I learned something. Awesome.

I hope the season ends with Barry meeting a kid and the kid introducing himself as Wally. That would be pretty cool.
 
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