So can anyone still say Hashirama > Madara?

[TenthHokagexRamen]

madara is only stronger because he keeps stealing power from everybody else. (senju+Hashi+Kurama+ect)

 

[RikudouMadara]

Well...they can say it, but doesn't make it so. Madara said there was a gap in his and Hashirama and Tobirama SKILL not power. Meaning as far as fighting skill Madara dwarfs them. It makes sense as well... as he lived longer than they did. Madara by manga fact as of currently is >>>>>>>>Hashirama and Tobirama. Skill is fact, but I say power as well, but that's just my belief.

 

[grenwood]

Yep, Hashi stil beats him if things were fair. He stil is the god of shinobi after all.
And now we also know Tobirama was on par with madara

weve always known that. its been stated since we first heard about the uchiha senju feuds that hashirama madara izuna and tobirama were equals. obviously when izuna died he stopped growing in power while the other three grew stronger. it was never stated tobirama wasnt at that lvl but it was stated that he was at that lvl.

 

[psukkar]

The saving grace for pro-Hashirama people was Edo Madara stating that only Hashirama can stop him, but Madara

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that there's a gap in their skills now. So is the Hashirama > Madara argument finally dead? I know a lot of guys like TheSages456 used that previous statement a lot in their arguments....

My bad if this has already been posted.

for the record based from we have since between hasihrama and madara this is the power tables

Hasihrama > MS MAdara,EMS madara and EMS madara+fox
Madara with rinnegan = Hasihrama
Madara with rinnegan+hasihrama's sage chakra > hasihrama

But hasihrama has something planned for madara because madara took his sage chakra. NO arguments are dead until hasihrama is finished owning the madara fanboys one last time.


there u happy now.

But still i don't like the fact ppl get better by stealing something u didn't work for, its bad message for the kids out there.