Smh Minato.
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
All of these is possible without the use of Sage Mode.
I doubt kishi had thought about it at the time.
none the less, it was an enjoyable read, so thumbs up.
All of these is possible without the use of Sage Mode.
I doubt kishi had thought about it at the time.
none the less, it was an enjoyable read, so thumbs up.
Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
yeah..indeed it is
Was SM really necessary for that? How can SM fare against Kamui's speed? Is SM faster than FTG? We all know that it was a battle of speed and Minato can perform FTG with or without SM so why bother using SM when all he needed is to be faster than obito and the solution to that is FTG.
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
No scans, and no proof.
In the end of the day even if you're right, you're speculating, and it's terrible writing for an author to force his readers to speculate just to answer a simple question. And that is the definition of Ass-pull.
No scans, and no proof.
In the end of the day even if you're right, you're speculating, and it's terrible writing for an author to force his readers to speculate just to answer a simple question. And that is the definition of Ass-pull.
Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
actually this is old and we did not hear it from you first. no sht it was hinted retard. this is stupidly obvious. the thing people are *****ing about is why he didnt use senjutsu in the first place. its a half ass pull so that he would die because he was OP and kishi wanted to get rid of him that way. its obvious. you are not smart, and you just got destroyed. thank you.You heard it from me first. It was already hinted but people are just lazy to think. Since the release of the latest chapter showing SM Minato, some called it an asspull from Kishi. Well here's my take...It's not an asspull because it was already hinted that he was able to use senjutsu 3 years ago.
The scan below shows that Minato doesn't have ENOUGH CHAKRA to teleport Kurama and the TBB. He asked Bunta to hold Kurama because he needed enough chakra to teleport Kurama and the TBB. We can all agree that at this point, Minato lacks the chakra to teleport Kurama and if all of you have noticed, Kurama was about to fire the TBB at Hiruzen.
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Seconds later, Minato was able to teleport Kurama and the TBB. We can clearly see how fast Minato recovered some chakra needed to teleport Kurama and the TBB because the TBB was already charged the time he asked Bunta to hold Kurama and he was able to teleport it before the TBB was fired.
Perhaps majority of us asked the same question at the time we read this chapter and that question perhaps was.....
Where did Minato get the chakra needed to teleport Kurama and the TBB in such a short period of time?
On top of this, Minato did the following after teleporting Kurama and the TBB:
1. Performed the Dead Demon Seal
2. Summoned a ceremonial throne for the 8 trigrams seal
3. Used his body as a shield to stop Kurama's claw from stabbing Naruto
4. Summoned Gamatora
5. Performed the 8 trigrams
6. Used chakra transfer to seal Kushina and his chakra to Naruto
Again, how did Minato acquire the chakra needed to perform all of these? His chakra was no doubt not capable of teleporting kurama but seconds later he managed to perform those feats. Is it possible for him to regenerate chakra that fast? We all know it's impossible to regenerate the lost chakra that fast so where did he get his chakra? The following scan will explain everything. A scan fits for a situation Minato was put in
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This is probably the most logical explanation from our question. Minato used senjutsu chakra to perform the said feats. There's no way for him to recover his chakra using his body alone. He needed another chakra source and the only available chakra he can gather easily is natures chakra. Using senjutsu chakra does not mean one must go into Sage Mode. Like Oro, he can use senjutsu chakra for his cursed seals but can't enter sage mode.
If anyone can share his idea on where Minato get the chakra needed to perform all those feats then much better. For those who can't share a little and want to bash this thread, just STFU
Good day and enjoy!
Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
thanks
I don't think it's possible for anyone to recover chakra that fast because if they really can then they can spam techniques forever because they can recover lost chakra in an instant. I believe Minato needed another chakra source and that was nature's chakra
mrcrazyboyravi
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
Why didn't Itachi used izanami on Tobi to make him a good ninja and stop the 4th shinobi war ? Itachi was all to blame then ?
why didn't itach used izanami on Sasuke to make him a good kid ?
Why didn't Itachi used izanami on Tobi to make him a good ninja and stop the 4th shinobi war ? Itachi was all to blame then ?
JIRAIYA perv
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
Minato knowing how to use SM is logical, he's Jiraiya's student.
the real problem is, why the hell didn't he Transform in the two biggest fights of his life (against Obito and against Juubito) ?? the dude even died because he was drained/didn't have chakra to fight, logically in a fight like that one would use all of his strong techs, specially the ones that provide more chakra.
he faces death/the biggest threat to the leaf and doesn't think of using something as strong as SM (actually transforming + using FTG), he faces Juubito and learns that Senjutsu is his weakness yet the idea of actually transforming never crossed his mind (against the biggest threat to NV).
all of this lead the readers to think that he doesn't have it, and out of nowhere he transforms against Madara ............................
Minato knowing how to use SM is logical, he's Jiraiya's student.
the real problem is, why the hell didn't he Transform in the two biggest fights of his life (against Obito and against Juubito) ?? the dude even died because he was drained/didn't have chakra to fight, logically in a fight like that one would use all of his strong techs, specially the ones that provide more chakra.
he faces death/the biggest threat to the leaf and doesn't think of using something as strong as SM (actually transforming + using FTG), he faces Juubito and learns that Senjutsu is his weakness yet the idea of actually transforming never crossed his mind (against the biggest threat to NV).
all of this lead the readers to think that he doesn't have it, and out of nowhere he transforms against Madara ............................
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
How come I have not seen it? lol..OLD? You mean there was once a thread saying Minato has sagemode because of the scan I've posted? Don't be such a retard boy. As I told you, if you can share anything helpful then STFU. Post the thread the same as this..i'll wait dumbass..look at how the way you think. my 6 yr old child is smarter than you..
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
I think the reason is obvious, he didnt have time to stay still and gather natural energy in those fights considering his wife and child were in danger.
Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
like Itachi said. he wanted to give sasuke a chance, and he already failed so many times, he wanted to do it the right way. the normal way, not some haxed jutsu
Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
The main problem about minato having SM is: He didn't use it against obito(juubi jin). In the battle, when naruto noticed obito's weakness and used rasengan, minato mentioned SM as being "jiraya's sensei technique". Not only that, but he was relying on naruto's SM to atack obito, instead of entering SM himself, considering that now we know that he could.
These 2 facts above are what makes it understandable and even valid to call minato's SM a plothole.
The main problem about minato having SM is: He didn't use it against obito(juubi jin). In the battle, when naruto noticed obito's weakness and used rasengan, minato mentioned SM as being "jiraya's sensei technique". Not only that, but he was relying on naruto's SM to atack obito, instead of entering SM himself, considering that now we know that he could.
These 2 facts above are what makes it understandable and even valid to call minato's SM a plothole.
The Necromancer
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
He's shown perfected sage mode and has time to put on his jacket, but he doesn't have 5 seconds to gather Senjutsu? He stood still contemplating in front of Obito for a solid 30 seconds as well.
JIRAIYA perv
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
that is if it needs time but, apparently his transformation is fast as shown in the latest chapter (almost instant), so he didn't need time.
and what about the fight against Juubito ?? it didn't even cross his mind .......................
i call that lousy writing if anything u_u
he got them to safety and still didn't transform, talked to them the headed back to the Leaf (had time).
that is if it needs time but, apparently his transformation is fast as shown in the latest chapter (almost instant), so he didn't need time.
and what about the fight against Juubito ?? it didn't even cross his mind .......................
i call that lousy writing if anything u_u
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
No scans and thus no proof. All you're doing is damage control. All of this is nothing but speculation. The fact that he required Naruto to hand him Senjutu meant that he couldn't even amass Natural Energy to add to his own Rasangan. He had plenty of time to enter SM during his fight with Obito, as he took Naruto home and then Kushina, and yet, he didn't. His wife and child's life was on the line and Konoha's future hung in the balance, but he opted not to. He knew Senjutsu worked against Obito, yet he didn't utilize it and relied on Naruto.
All this is an overwhelming evidence against your Logic, not to mention how Pa never mentioned him despite Minato having a contract with the toads and the Key he gave them to give it to Naruto so that he would be able to utilize Kurama's power in the future. The only thing people can do is bear it, because there is nothing that can be done, just like Minato being a Jin and an Edo - despite Madara's statement that Edos cannot be Jins - and him being born with Kurama's chakra, when Hizuren wasn't with the Hokages and Orochimaru's arm and when the death god was shown to devour everything separately in his belly, or the fact that how did he purify it.
Don't try to prove something that isn't there.
No scans and thus no proof. All you're doing is damage control. All of this is nothing but speculation. The fact that he required Naruto to hand him Senjutu meant that he couldn't even amass Natural Energy to add to his own Rasangan. He had plenty of time to enter SM during his fight with Obito, as he took Naruto home and then Kushina, and yet, he didn't. His wife and child's life was on the line and Konoha's future hung in the balance, but he opted not to. He knew Senjutsu worked against Obito, yet he didn't utilize it and relied on Naruto.
All this is an overwhelming evidence against your Logic, not to mention how Pa never mentioned him despite Minato having a contract with the toads and the Key he gave them to give it to Naruto so that he would be able to utilize Kurama's power in the future. The only thing people can do is bear it, because there is nothing that can be done, just like Minato being a Jin and an Edo - despite Madara's statement that Edos cannot be Jins - and him being born with Kurama's chakra, when Hizuren wasn't with the Hokages and Orochimaru's arm and when the death god was shown to devour everything separately in his belly, or the fact that how did he purify it.
Don't try to prove something that isn't there.
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
5 seconds? lol if gathering Senjutsu was so easy, naruto would have no need of his clones.
1.I think minato having SM contradicts what we have seen so far but I make due where explaination can be provided, in the case of Jubito's fight, minato may have not been able to use it in combination with BM - as stated by kurama, naruto surpassed his predecessors in terms of chakra control
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Why would Ma and Pa say something about the 4th when in they are comparing a student and his teacher. Go back to the chapter where sage mode was introduced at Tsunade's office.
I have explained already about Obito. About Juubito, KCM/BM was more important than SM in that situation. He was supporting Naruto with power and was sharing chakra to the alliance.
MinatoTheYellowFlash
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Re: Minato using senjutsu was hinted 3 years ago
The instant minato used sage mode he was out of sage mode. Should consider that.
Its not perfect, he just has the look my friend. The frog mentioned it to Naruto.
Complaining? He tried to change him like his son actually did.
Who said he could maintain it for that long?
The instant minato used sage mode he was out of sage mode. Should consider that.
LMAO!
Its not perfect, he just has the look my friend. The frog mentioned it to Naruto.
Complaining? He tried to change him like his son actually did.