SM Naruto vs Itachi

[Lord Tywin]

Alive Itachi vs War arc SM Naruto.
Intel is manga
Distance is 30M
Naruto has 2 clones in stock if his SM ran out.
Edo Itachi's feats apply

 

[KidGamer65]

Itachi wins.

 

[Draegod]

Naruto mid-high

 

[Beans2]

Edo Itachi's feats apply

If all his Edo stamina feats apply, then Itachi stomps. If this is canon sick Itachi, Naruto wins mid-high difficulty. If this is healthy Itachi, he provably wins high diff.

 

[Apêx1]

Itachi spanks.

 

[Oblivionx]

more or less equal... if naruto doesn't use ma & pa then itachi outsmarts him... but with ma & pa it would be interesting...

 

[Lord Tywin]

I feel like Naruto wins High diff.

If all his Edo stamina feats apply, then Itachi stomps. If this is canon sick Itachi, Naruto wins mid-high difficulty. If this is healthy Itachi, he provably wins high diff.

Not his stamina. Itachi is alive. Everything he did in his Edo form he can do here, but except the Edo benefits.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Itachi spanks.

explain

 

[TRE MERCER]

Amaterasu one shots at this distance.​

 

[Lord Tywin]

Amaterasu one shots at this distance.​

smh no. Raikage dodged that shit from this distance

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Sensing shits all over that.
With Naruto constantly running around he'd easily avoid Amaterasu. SM Naruto>>>>>Hebi Sasuke in speed and sensing

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[TRE MERCER]

smh no. Raikage dodged that shit from this distance

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Sensing shits all over that.
With Naruto constantly running around he'd easily avoid Amaterasu. SM Naruto>>>>>Hebi Sasuke in speed and sensing

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I refuse to take you serious after using Hebi Sasuke as an example.

Itachi didn't even spawn the Amaterasu on Sasuke for one. V1 Raikage who is arguably faster than Hebi Sasuke instantly went to v2 the moment he realized Amaterasu was a possibility for Sasuke. How will Naruto know it's Amaterasu? Why not genjutsu? There is no logical reason for him to know so sit all the way down with that logic.​

 

[Apêx1]

explain

Hmm let's see..

-Susano shits on all of Naruto's clones, Naruto can't even dodge the attacks given his lack of speed. Nothing SM Naruto can dish out will destroy v4+Yata. While Naruto thinks Itachi has just died post-Massive FRS he'll be pleasantly surprised with Totsuka's sword sealing him. Inb4 SM sensing allows him to dodge something like Totsuka's sword swinging at him when it can just force him to jump and then hit him while mid-air.

-Yasaka Magatama can force Naruto to dodge them while Totsuka sword hits from the other side.

-Amaterasu cannot be dodged by SM Naruto since it follows whatever the user is gazing upon. Ay dodged it by being too fast for Sasuke to track. Naruto can sense it, doesn't mean he can dodge it. However it's not a main move here.

-Genjutsu takes time for the Bijuu to break, and then there's the fact that the Bijuu actually has to notice a change to notice the Genjutsu to break it. If Itachi makes the Genjutsu realistic it isn't being broken since the Kyuubi isn't going to know Naruto is in a Genjutsu in the first place. And yes, clones are vulnerable to Genjutsu.

-Naruto's lack of intelligence isn't helping him here. Itachi's exploding Bunshin is sent to fight Naruto>Naruto punches it>it explodes in his face and the real Itachi proceeds to blitz with his Susano in a similar fashion to what he did against Nagato after taking away his shared vision.

 

[Lord Tywin]

I refuse to take you serious after using Hebi Sasuke as an example.​

I never took you seriously

Itachi didn't even spawn the Amaterasu on Sasuke for one. V1 Raikage who is arguably faster than Hebi Sasuke instantly went to v2 the moment he realized Amaterasu was a possibility for Sasuke. How will Naruto know it's Amaterasu? Why not genjutsu? There is no logical reason for him to know so sit all the way down with that logic.

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He did.

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He tried, but Sasuke was on the run. The moment Amaterasu was going to be placed on Sasuke's place, Sasuke was fast enough to not be there when Amaterasu came to life. Therefore someone far faster with far better sensing ability would not get caught by Amaterasu.
Also Ay went V2 just to counter MS. Not Amaterasu alone. He was fast enough to dodge amaterasu without being on the move. You can also escape Amaterasu by running around, like I showed you.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Hmm let's see..

-Susano shits on all of Naruto's clones, Naruto can't even dodge the attacks given his lack of speed. Nothing SM Naruto can dish out will destroy v4+Yata. While Naruto thinks Itachi has just died post-Massive FRS he'll be pleasantly surprised with Totsuka's sword sealing him. Inb4 SM sensing allows him to dodge something like Totsuka's sword swinging at him when it can just force him to jump and then hit him while mid-air.

Dodge Susanoo attacks? smh
Naruto wouldn't even need to use clones here. He'd just run around, forcing Itachi to keep susanoo up. He'd outlast him, then finish him with CFRS. Sucker punching him with totsuka won't work either due to sage sensing.

-Yasaka Magatama can force Naruto to dodge them while Totsuka sword hits from the other side.

Neither has shown the speed to even make Naruto uncomfortable.

-Amaterasu cannot be dodged by SM Naruto since it follows whatever the user is gazing upon. Ay dodged it by being too fast for Sasuke to track. Naruto can sense it, doesn't mean he can dodge it. However it's not a main move here.

Amaterasu is prevented by running constantly. Naruto sense Amaterasu and starts running. I explained it to YD how Naruto prevents Amaterasu.

-Genjutsu takes time for the Bijuu to break, and then there's the fact that the Bijuu actually has to notice a change to notice the Genjutsu to break it. If Itachi makes the Genjutsu realistic it isn't being broken since the Kyuubi isn't going to know Naruto is in a Genjutsu in the first place. And yes, clones are vulnerable to Genjutsu.

Naruto prevents genjutsu by closing his eyes. He's shown to fight in pitch black places. It'll be no different.

-Naruto's lack of intelligence isn't helping him here. Itachi's exploding Bunshin is sent to fight Naruto>Naruto punches it>it explodes in his face and the real Itachi proceeds to blitz with his Susano in a similar fashion to what he did against Nagato after taking away his shared vision.

Clones are destroyed by giant rasengan.

 

[TRE MERCER]

I never took you seriously

Well i shall give you a reason to.​

He did.

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He tried, but Sasuke was on the run. The moment Amaterasu was going to be placed on Sasuke's place, Sasuke was fast enough to not be there when Amaterasu came to life. Therefore someone far faster with far better sensing ability would not get caught by Amaterasu.
Also Ay went V2 just to counter MS. Not Amaterasu alone. He was fast enough to dodge amaterasu without being on the move. You can also escape Amaterasu by running around, like I showed you.

Terrible and irrelevant scan since that's when Amaterasu chased down him. So not sure why you even mentioned that at all. SM is far faster than Hebi Sasuke nope? Best feat from Sasuke was dodging v1 Ei while his 3tomoe was active. Hebi Sasuke is faster since he was using a combination of cm1 and cm2. While SM Naruto barely dodged v1 3rd Raikage who should be on the same speed caliber as v1 Ei but even that's spectacle. He went v2 to counter MS? Nope he went straight to v2 and prepped his shunsui why?[

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] To out speed Amaterasu. He didn't even have knowledge on Susanoo unless you can prove that he did. He was never worried about genjutsu since he was constantly looking Sasuke in the eyes.[

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] Plus Itachi never planned on winning that battle so why would he one shot Sasuke with Amaterasu please explain.

Also you completely ignored how Naruto is going to decipher from Genjutsu or Amaterasu? If he's going to be constantly running around with his eyes close Totsuka chops him down.

#Sleeping on me and ended up over sleeping.​

 

[Apêx1]

Dodge Susanoo attacks? smh
Naruto wouldn't even need to use clones here. He'd just run around, forcing Itachi to keep susanoo up. He'd outlast him, then finish him with CFRS. Sucker punching him with totsuka won't work either due to sage sensing.

This is actually so stupid that I'm not even going to bother countering.

Neither has shown the speed to even make Naruto uncomfortable.

Doesn't have to, it'd still force him to move into said direction to avoid it.

Amaterasu is prevented by running constantly. Naruto sense Amaterasu and starts running. I explained it to YD how Naruto prevents Amaterasu.

Running constantly just means he'll end up getting blitzed by Shunshin. Naruto can't 'continiously Shunshin' so Itachi would just reach a 3 meter distance>activate v3>shit on him. Anyways, not sure if this is even a counter given KCM Naruto was surprised Amaterasu didn't land on him AFTER he was running away. Amaterasu appeared so fast Naruto was in awe lmfao, SM Naruto ain't doing shit here..

Naruto prevents genjutsu by closing his eyes. He's shown to fight in pitch black places. It'll be no different.

It's not as effective to fight without sight, so Naruto is still going to end up being smashed.

Clones are destroyed by giant rasengan.

Yet Itachi's clones can easily dodge that with their pre-cog and superior speed.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Terrible and irrelevant scan since that's when Amaterasu chased down him. So not sure why you even mentioned that at all. SM is far faster than Hebi Sasuke nope? Best feat from Sasuke was dodging v1 Ei while his 3tomoe was active. Hebi Sasuke is faste since he was using is combination of cm1 and cm2. While SM Naruto barely dodged v1 3rd Raikage who should be on the same speed calibur as v1 Ei but even that's spectacle. He went v2 to counter MS? Nope he went straight to v2 and prepped his shunsui why?[

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] To out speed Amaterasu. He didn't even have knowledge on Susanoo unless you can prove that he did. He was never worried about genjutsu since he was constantly looking Sasuke in the eyes.[

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] Plus Itachi never planned on winning that battle so why would he one shot Sasuke with Amaterasu please explain.

Also you completely ignored how Naruto is going to decipher from Genjutsu or Amaterasu? If he's going to be constantly running around with his eyes close Totsuka chops him down.

#Sleeping on me and ended up over sleeping.​

What the hell are you saying? Amaterasu chasing down Sasuke is the whole point. Itachi failed to initially to immediately one shot Sasuke because Sasuke was on the run. Both V1 raikages have shown the same feats. But it comes to Naruto, who has shown better shunshin and reaction than Sasuke. Naruto said

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. The same KCM Naruto that shat all over V2 Ay said that. It shows you just how much of a better mode SM is to KCM in dodging shit. Raikage and his team had no idea that Sasuke had amaterasu. You provided the scan. Cee says "Mangekyo Sharingan", not Amaterasu. He went V2 to counter MS as of whole, not a single technique. Back on the Itachi topic, Itachi had no problem using Amaterasu on Sasuke, so we can throw the argument about Itachi's mindset in the garbage bin. Running around for Naruto is no problem at all. It doesn't matter if he can't decide if Itachi is using Genjutsu or Amaterasu. But Naruto has his eyes close. He'd be suspicious and ask himself why would Itachi use genjutsu when Naruto's eyes are closes, therefore deducing the usage of Amaterasu

 

[Lord Tywin]

This is actually so stupid that I'm not even going to bother countering.

Actually you're sounding stupid for not thinking Naruto can't outlast Itachi, or that he can't avoid Itachi's arsenal.

Doesn't have to, it'd still force him to move into said direction to avoid it.

lmao how many magtamas can itachi make? The most he's shown every time is a circle of 3, which is easily avoided by Naruto. Itachi wank is real.

Running constantly just means he'll end up getting blitzed by Shunshin. Naruto can't 'continiously Shunshin' so Itachi would just reach a 3 meter distance>activate v3>shit on him. Anyways, not sure if this is even a counter given KCM Naruto was surprised Amaterasu didn't land on him AFTER he was running away. Amaterasu appeared so fast Naruto was in awe lmfao, SM Naruto ain't doing shit here..

Was Sasuke using shunshin when he outran Amaterasu for a while? nah
@bold, slap yourself if you think running would tire Naruto out. Naruto stops running>Itachi decides to use Amaterasu>Naruto senses it>starts running>Itachi wastes chakra on a futile act. Go read my reply to YD on the rest of Ama argument. Ain't gonna type it for you again.

It's not as effective to fight without sight, so Naruto is still going to end up being smashed.

smh the return of straw man

Yet Itachi's clones can easily dodge that with their pre-cog and superior speed.

hmmmm Itachi's clones being faster and having better pre cog than SM Naruto? Slap yourself again.

 

[TRE MERCER]

What the hell are you saying? Amaterasu chasing down Sasuke is the whole point. Itachi failed to initially to immediately one shot Sasuke because Sasuke was on the run. Both V1 raikages have shown the same feats. But it comes to Naruto, who has shown better shunshin and reaction than Sasuke. Naruto said

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. The same KCM Naruto that shat all over V2 Ay said that.
It shows you just how much of a better mode SM is to KCM in dodging shit.

Itachi was never trying to spawn it on Sasuke in the first place. He wanted to lose that battle on purpose so why would he do something like that? The whole point was to make Sasuke use up all his chakra and hitting Sasuke on the wing was the perfect thing to do since he'd have to use oral rebirth which is very chakra taxing. Nope KM Naruto Shunsui speed shits on SM. This guy reacted to v1 3rd Raikage[

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] I would love to see SM Naruto dodge Ei fastest punch while KM Naruto barely managed that.​

Raikage and his team had no idea that Sasuke had amaterasu. You provided the scan. Cee says "Mangekyo Sharingan", not Amaterasu. He went V2 to counter MS as of whole, not a single technique. Back on the Itachi topic, Itachi had no problem using Amaterasu on Sasuke, so we can throw the argument about Itachi's mindset in the garbage bin. Running around for Naruto is no problem at all. It doesn't matter if he can't decide if Itachi is using Genjutsu or Amaterasu. But Naruto has his eyes close. He'd be suspicious and ask himself why would Itachi use genjutsu when Naruto's eyes are closes, therefore deducing the usage of Amaterasu

These 2 scans completely debunks the claim that Ei and his comrades had no knowledge on Amaterasu.[

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]. Did you forget that there were cloud Ninja watching there entire battle with Bee? Why would they leave out the Jutsu that one shotted Bee while telling Ei the story? No reason so dismiss that terrible claim. He used Amaterasu on Sasuke to forcefully make him use oral rebirth due to it's chakra taxing properties so that's irrelevant since Itachi had no killing intent on Sasuke to begin so why would he spawn Amaterasu on him? Then there's the fact that he can cast Amaterasu in two places at once.[

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] Naruto isn't running from that and let's assume by some miracle he does Itachi follows him like he did with Sasuke until it reaches. Or Totsuka surprises the kid and chop him down. ​

 

[Lord Tywin]

Itachi was never trying to spawn it on Sasuke in the first place. He wanted to lose that battle on purpose so why would he do something like that? The whole point was to make Sasuke use up all his chakra and hitting Sasuke on the wing was the perfect thing to do since he'd have to use oral rebirth which is very chakra taxing. Nope KM Naruto Shunsui speed shits on SM. This guy reacted to v1 3rd Raikage[

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] I would love to see SM Naruto dodge Ei fastest punch while KM Naruto barely managed that.​

How does the bold debunk anything I said? Itachi used Amaterasu on Sasuke. That's fact. Itachi did everything to rid Sasuke of Orochimaru. Meaning he used all of his techniques to make Sasuke to use chakra, and for Oro to come out. Itachi was using Amaterasu on Sasuke and that's fact. He had no problem hitting him. But he was temporarily unable to do so because of Sasuke's speed. My whole point
SM Naruto makes up for the speed loss of KCM Naruto by having greater sensing. SM Naruto is faster than V1 raiton armor, and he makes up the gap to v2 with his sensory ability.

These 2 scans completely debunks the claim that Ei and his comrades had no knowledge on Amaterasu.[

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]-[

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]. Did you forget that there were cloud Ninja watching there entire battle with Bee? Why would they leave out the Jutsu that one shotted Bee while telling Ei the story? No reason so dismiss that terrible claim. He used Amaterasu on Sasuke to forcefully make him use oral rebirth due to it's chakra taxing properties so that's irrelevant since Itachi had no killing intent on Sasuke to begin so why would he spawn Amaterasu on him? Then there's the fact that he can cast Amaterasu in two places at once.[

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] Naruto isn't running from that and let's assume by some miracle he does Itachi follows him like he did with Sasuke until it reaches. Or Totsuka surprises the kid and chop him down. ​

I never said Ay and co had no intel on Amaterasu. Cee's words makes it clear that Ay went V2 to counter MS as of whole. Enough said. He's not able to cast Amaterasu on two places. The only way he could do that if both his eyes were capable of Amaterasu, which isn't true. His eye was fast enough to light up that dog in a fast manner.
Rest is already addressed.