[VS] SM naruto vs 4th raikage

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Too bad Ay isn't a giant and immobile target, but a small and fast one. Not even the sharigan was able to keep up with his full speed. What makes you think Naruto or Bunta can?

The fact that he was able to keep up with the third Raikage (Not in speed.) and actually counter his attacks.
Bunta can merely execute a large scale Katon and roast Ay alive.

I'd like to ask you, what makes you think that Ay would even harm either Naruto or Bunta, you're ignoring the AoE of the RasenShuriken.

that is all in naruto's mind. he can't do that in the real world

Irrelivant, why would he make up a technique he can't use?

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Even Pain was able to dodge his RasenShuriken, Ay could do it blind folded.

Pain's able to use the Deva path to evade strikes, his other paths couldn't.
What part of, using it at close range do you not understand?

 

[Optimistic]

Ay wins like people have already explained in this thread.

 

[slimreaper]

because he needed to beat the nine tails

 

[Prince Charles]

sm naruto takes this.

 

[genii96]

I've never heard of that before. Also Km naruto isn't the same as Sage mode Naruto, Sm naruto gives him more protection. His reflexes are also enhanced.

when he went v2,his reflexes were compared to minato. Km naruto's chakra shroud is more resiliant than his sm body,cuz i m sure chakra rods cant pierce the shroud,

oh,and to all the people saying sm naruto can spam clones,yea,thats a big fat lie,he was in his mind,and thus he and his clones could move and enter sage mode at the same time,which isny happening in the real world,he has just about 2 or 3 clones at once.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

oh,and to all the people saying sm naruto can spam clones,yea,thats a big fat lie,he was in his mind,and thus he and his clones could move and enter sage mode at the same time,which isny happening in the real world,he has just about 2 or 3 clones at once.

1. He could only use 3 clones because he had another 2 at Mt. Toad and summoning more would interfere with those.

2. This is current Naruto who doesn't need clones at Mt. Toad.

 

[Monkeysageof6paths]

when he went v2,his reflexes were compared to minato. Km naruto's chakra shroud is more resiliant than his sm body,cuz i m sure chakra rods cant pierce the shroud,

oh,and to all the people saying sm naruto can spam clones,yea,thats a big fat lie,he was in his mind,and thus he and his clones could move and enter sage mode at the same time,which isny happening in the real world,he has just about 2 or 3 clones at once.

I disagree. I think in sage mode he has more resistance and more physical strengh with reflexes while he has more speed and a bit less phisical strengh in KM.

 

[EZQ]

A wins, solid victory for him...

If naruto summons Bunta and this makes a huge Fire jutsu, Ay tanks it easely with lightining armour, the one not even sasuke's chidori could beat... He also could just dodge it, his speed is on par with KCM Naruto's

Naruto being able to keep up with the 3rd raikage in SM doesn't mean he is able to keep up with Ay, who is in fact a lot faster (just speed, Sandaime raikage is better in strenght and ninjutsu)

Naruto making a lot of clones is a problem for Ay, sure, but he can dodge Naruto's clones since he's too fast for them, not even MADARA could react to Ay (madara with rinnengan)

Ay's main problem is Naruto's Odama Rasengan barrage or RasenShuriken , since he can't TANK those, but he can for sure DODGE FRS with no problem, he dodged AMATERASU, FRS is a joke for him in speed...

Odama-rasengan barrage is the biggest problem, but Ay could speedblitz naruto before he makes the clones

A wins high diff

 

[BlueMeteor]

Ay stomps hard.

 

[Tartarus]

Considering Sage Naruto was able to react and counter the 3rd's attacks in SM, he can do the same SM. Not only that, Naruto has superior strength and durability in SM than Ay. If Ay tries to engage in CQC, Naruto can overpower him by himself or with clones to hold Ay down and try to finish him with Rasenshuriken and/or a giant rasengan barrage.

 

[Monkeysageof6paths]

Considering Sage Naruto was able to react and counter the 3rd's attacks in SM, he can do the same SM. Not only that, Naruto has superior strength and durability in SM than Ay. If Ay tries to engage in CQC, Naruto can overpower him by himself or with clones to hold Ay down and try to finish him with Rasenshuriken and/or a giant rasengan barrage.

Thank you.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

A wins, solid victory for him...

If naruto summons Bunta and this makes a huge Fire jutsu, Ay tanks it easely with lightining armour, the one not even sasuke's chidori could beat... He also could just dodge it, his speed is on par with KCM Naruto's

Naruto being able to keep up with the 3rd raikage in SM doesn't mean he is able to keep up with Ay, who is in fact a lot faster (just speed, Sandaime raikage is better in strenght and ninjutsu)

Naruto making a lot of clones is a problem for Ay, sure, but he can dodge Naruto's clones since he's too fast for them, not even MADARA could react to Ay (madara with rinnengan)

Ay's main problem is Naruto's Odama Rasengan barrage or RasenShuriken , since he can't TANK those, but he can for sure DODGE FRS with no problem, he dodged AMATERASU, FRS is a joke for him in speed...

Odama-rasengan barrage is the biggest problem, but Ay could speedblitz naruto before he makes the clones

A wins high diff

There are 150 feet between them, which roughly translates into 45 meters.. that's enough for Naruto to make clones and then Ay will simply be unable to tell which is the real one and he will get beaten down by a Rasengan Barrage or clones holding him while an FRS is thrown at him or even used in melee.

 

[Champ]

A speed blitz, kills him

 

[genii96]

1. He could only use 3 clones because he had another 2 at Mt. Toad and summoning more would interfere with those.

2. This is current Naruto who doesn't need clones at Mt. Toad.

1) dosent matter,when he is in sm,he has a little over 5 minutes,using jutsuslike RS reduces the time,and making many clones will just divide the senjutsus chakra,thus further reducing the time as well as dividing the power. He can do 3 RS in sm b4 it runs out,then he gets exhausted,if he has no clones to spare,he is finished. Those clones in his mind were all in base,once the real body entered sm,they all entered,thus no sm energy was divided,and so they all performed their barrage jutsus,if naruto tries that many,he will run out immediately.

2) dosent matter,how did neji die?,naruto went sm,did 3 RS,and sm was finished,he became exhausred and a sitting duck,which led to neji's death,so he needs clones whether current or not.

I disagree. I think in sage mode he has more resistance and more physical strengh with reflexes while he has more speed and a bit less phisical strengh in KM.

more physical strenght?,km naruto pushed a bijuudama through multiple barriers!,chakra shrouds pierced the bodies of sm naruto,kusanagi cudnt pierce a kn4 shroud,v1 shroud took tessinsenju. Sm naruto has better reflexes true and is a better sensor,but thats it.

Considering Sage Naruto was able to react and counter the 3rd's attacks in SM, he can do the same SM. Not only that, Naruto has superior strength and durability in SM than Ay. If Ay tries to engage in CQC, Naruto can overpower him by himself or with clones to hold Ay down and try to finish him with Rasenshuriken and/or a giant rasengan barrage.

A is faster than his dad,and naruto phsically stronger than A?,seriously?

 

[Monkeysageof6paths]

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more physical strenght?,km naruto pushed a bijuudama through multiple barriers!,chakra shrouds pierced the bodies of sm naruto,kusanagi cudnt pierce a kn4 shroud,v1 shroud took tessinsenju. Sm naruto has better reflexes true and is a better sensor,but thats it.



A is faster than his dad,and naruto phsically stronger than A?,seriously?

Maybe but while in sagre mode he completely picked up kurama and threw him. And Kurama is alot bigger then a bijuudama. Not. my point. What I meant is He doesn't get hurt easily. I was not talking about how easy it would be to pierce his body. Yeah by feats. Have you ever seen A pick up atailed beast or a huge summon before ? I think not.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Or he could simply use regular chakra for bunshins so his SM doesn't run out?

 

[genii96]

Maybe but while in sagre mode he completely picked up kurama and threw him. And Kurama is alot bigger then a bijuudama. Not. my point. What I meant is He doesn't get hurt easily. I was not talking about how easy it would be to pierce his body. Yeah by feats. Have you ever seen A pick up atailed beast or a huge summon before ? I think not.

km naruto dosent get hurt either,except when bijuu supressing chakra chains are used. A bijudama is compressed chakra,it's a lot heavier than it looks. Oh and a younger A knocked the hachibi to the ground with a simple downward chop while cutting off one of his horns at the same time,in v1. Current Ay blocked a susanoo hit with one arm while talking to tsunade. Oh and he could have killed a shrouded naruto,(who tanked tessensenju,madara's magatamas,v2 larva,acid slime etc) with one punch

Or he could simply use regular chakra for bunshins so his SM doesn't run out?

yea....no:|

 

[pateuvasiliu]

yea....no

And why is that, exactly?

 

[Monkeysageof6paths]

km naruto dosent get hurt either,except when bijuu supressing chakra chains are used. A bijudama is compressed chakra,it's a lot heavier than it looks. Oh and a younger A knocked the hachibi to the ground with a simple downward chop while cutting off one of his horns at the same time,in v1. Current Ay blocked a susanoo hit with one arm while talking to tsunade. Oh and he could have killed a shrouded naruto,(who tanked tessensenju,madara's magatamas,v2 larva,acid slime etc) with one punch



yea....no:|

Still Kurama is ALOT bigger then the bijuudama. And he just pushed it it. he didn't pick it up and threw it. It's easier to push a car then to pick one up for example. That was when he was younger. Again you can't compare Sm Naruto to Km naruto. It's not the same thing. Sure It's resistant but I think km naruto is more based on speed and strengh than resistance.