sm naruto, ms sasuke, and killer bee vs ms itachi, kisame, and deva path pain

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Deva has canonically been able to physically dodge FRS, Susano'o arrow is a possibility assuming his team doesn't come to his defense. Either way, if Deva is using ST, whoever the target is, is unlikely in a position to be able to counter attack and exploit it's cool down. Sasuke will absolutely not be able to sit idly and camp comfortably in his Susano'o like he prefers to do, else he gets hard countered by GSB.

Tayuya's genjutsu controls the targets chakra system, Frog Song does not. That is also a close-med range jutsu, in which case SM Naruto gets slaughtered by Itachi.

Yeah, team 2 definitely wins now that I think about it.
 

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Team 1 is underrated; even with all the restrictions you put on Bee as well as teaming him with incompetent partners, they stand a chance of victory. Two scienarios are possible:


The 1st thing is Gyuki sharing Chakra with his teammates is something some are forgetting here. Cloak sharing isn't limited to Naruto only, since Biju's naturally can give their Chakra to whoever they desire. This would produce a V1 cloak to supplement their base prowess. We've seen the boost a cloak grants to Shinobi Alliance, so that would give an idea to how much boost Naruto & Sasuke get.

-If Kisame still hasn't merged with Samehada, a possibility to one-shot Samehada with Amatersu/Enton is high. A Katon ball from a weak Katon user showed Samehada's dislike to heat, so it dies easily from Amatersu/Enton. If Kisame is ever merged with Samehada, Senjutsu kills him in process of absorbing it.

-Itachi doesn't provide much here. His shit stamina shows he can't maintain a long battle, and the two of his best Jutsu's are useless. Amatersu is useless to another superior of the said Jutsu, as well as Biju cloak. Tsukuyomi is useless against Perfect Jinchuriki and superior Uchiha.

-Deva Pain would take out Naruto and Sasuke, leaving him with Bee and we've seen he's weak to V2 cloak without CT.

Or...

Deva Pain takes out Naruto and Sasuke with ST, leaving Bee to be overwhelmed by Team 2's combined effort. This is probably the more realistic approach.
 

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- So V2 Bee was doing fine, a full Gyuki Bee would do even better.
- Water techs to speed himself up? Explain?
- Deva can one shot the toads, but is he using that technique in the waterdome, which is what I'm explicitly talking about here? Probably not. A technique of that scale would disperse the entire water dome as well as potentially one shot Kisame himself. Once Deva uses that ST, Sasuke one shots him with Susano'o arrow.

full gyuki is restricted

Water bullet to propel himself away from kisame (or copy kisame's water shark and simply ride that)

No it wouldn't the ST can be localized to specific targets and thus have 0 effect on the water itself.

EMS sasukes's arrows already got blocked by chakra rods. Same thing happens to ms sasuke.
 

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Team 1 can win if they succeed in using frog song genjutsu which they should by the looks of it. Even all 3 opponents can get caught in it. And war arc SM naruto should be able to defend himself till that is prepped and sasuke can help in defending too. Itachi will get worn out before sasuke does and Rest of opponents equal each other bee vs kisame and pain vs naruto so i think team 1 has edge in stamina too. Though this is very even match up to me. Unrestriced BM should give team 1 definite win. And as for BM's vulnerability to amaterasu and totsuka, sasuke can put out those flames and itachi has less chakra than sasuke, and susano and FRS barrage should protect it long enough to launch a TBB. So there's that too. Plus too much amaterasu and there's kirin too.
 
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Team 1 can win if they succeed in using frog song genjutsu which they should by the looks of it. Even all 3 opponents can get caught in it. And war arc SM naruto should be able to defend himself till that is prepped and sasuke can help in defending too. Itachi will get worn out before sasuke does and Rest of opponents equal each other bee vs kisame and pain vs naruto so i think team 1 has edge in stamina too. Though this is very even match up to me. Unrestriced BM should give team 1 definite win. And as for BM's vulnerability to amaterasu and totsuka, sasuke can put out those flames and itachi has less chakra than sasuke, and susano and FRS barrage should protect it long enough to launch a TBB. So there's that too. Plus too much amaterasu and there's kirin too.

i agree with this
 

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What do you guys think? I think it could be tougher but guess it's just my opinion.

- I have no idea in regards to Deva being able to react to an Arrow from Sasuke's Susano'o but I guess the main defense for him would be Susano'o, does that not make his techniques unavailing? The only two here that can counter Susano'o would be Itachi and Kisame based on their feats so far but at the same time, Kisame individually not being in Susano'o leaves him extremely vulnerable to Naruto's Senjutsu attacks especially seeing as this is War Arc version. All in all, they all need to camp in Itachi's Susano'o indeed.

- Each can counter Amaterasu making the Jutsu meaningless. GSB vs Senjutsu techniques might be interesting because I don't know how it would deal with those attacks. Besides it swallows to absorb and another explosion next to it should get rid of it while it tries to absorb one.

- Each can counter Genjutsu. Naruto's sensory skills plus the fact that he blocks his LOS via clones, Ma and Pa just need to sit back and prepare their Genjutsu.

- Totsuka most likely won't be hitting SM Naruto or V2 B easily considering they aren't big targets like Hachibi or Hydra. Dodging the attacks won't be difficult

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Smh they think they won holup.

Den damn restrictions on bee though lol
 

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What do you guys think? I think it could be tougher but guess it's just my opinion.

- I have no idea in regards to Deva being able to react to an Arrow from Sasuke's Susano'o but I guess the main defense for him would be Susano'o, does that not make his techniques unavailing? The only two here that can counter Susano'o would be Itachi and Kisame based on their feats so far but at the same time, Kisame individually not being in Susano'o leaves him extremely vulnerable to Naruto's Senjutsu attacks especially seeing as this is War Arc version. All in all, they all need to camp in Itachi's Susano'o indeed.

- Each can counter Amaterasu making the Jutsu meaningless. GSB vs Senjutsu techniques might be interesting because I don't know how it would deal with those attacks. Besides it swallows to absorb and another explosion next to it should get rid of it while it tries to absorb one.

- Each can counter Genjutsu. Naruto's sensory skills plus the fact that he blocks his LOS via clones, Ma and Pa just need to sit back and prepare their Genjutsu.

- Totsuka most likely won't be hitting SM Naruto or V2 B easily considering they aren't big targets like Hachibi or Hydra. Dodging the attacks won't be difficult

Going away so this is all now

Deva can't dodge but Shinra Tensei would repel the arrow. During his cool down Itachi can simply protect him w/ Yasaka Magatama to intercept the arrow or he can tank it with his own Susanoo. Kisame isn't vulnerable to Naruto's attacks either. Not only does he have two other teammates who can deal with Naruto's attacks, but he himself can absorb any individual technique Naruto can use outside of COFRS considering Pain can easily absorb a single FRS and Kisame has more chakra than Pain. If the Senjutsu taken in is overwhelms your chakra that's when you become a statue. So camping isn't necessary, and even if it was it doesn't change the outcome..

GSB easily absorbs any attack these 3 can produce. Senjutsu only has drawbacks to humans and beings that utilize chakra as the balance of energies is what causes issues. And they have no attack to make explode without contact, and GSB would absorb any projectile chakra attack on contact.

And the last point doesn't work. Them not being big targets doesn't mean they can consistently dodge Totsuka. Your scan isn't evidence either because that's a far weaker Susanoo with an attack that has far less range than Totsuka. V4 Susanoo's strikes are far faster than Itachi's or anyone else's in this match and the range is long. When combined with Itachi's Sharingan precog no one here is dodging his strikes consistently.
 

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Damnit, need to get my restrictions right. Think team 1 takes this again
 
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