sm naruto, ms sasuke, and killer bee vs ms itachi, kisame, and deva path pain

[sixpaths15]

Location: sm naruto vs six paths of pain

Distance: the distance naruto was from pain before he destroyed asura path

Intel: all of team 1 has the same amount of intel on pain as naruto did but only have manga knowledge on itachi and kisame. team 2 has manga knowledge on team 1.

Intent: to kill

Conditions: this is war arc sm naruto with ma and pa on his shoulders and he can only use kurama to break genjutsu and this is healthy ms sasuke post danzo fight and itachi is healthy. pain starts with his power ready.

Restrictions: killer bee cant use bm or bijuu dama, naruto cant use kurama for anything other than to break genjutsu, and itachi cant use koto, and pain cant use CT or CST.

who wins?

 

[Nattana]

Water Dome + Amaterasu = gg.

Bashou Ten'in + Amaterasu = gg.

 

[Unorthodox]

Team Sasuke wins.

Am naruto >Kisame

Itach = Sasuke

Gyuki stomps pain.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Team Sasuke wins.

Am naruto >Kisame

Itach = Sasuke

Gyuki stomps pain.

what's naruto counter to the dome and GSB?

 

[Unorthodox]

what's naruto counter to the dome and GSB?

Toad flame bomb > WD n GSB

 

[BenjerminGaye]

team 2 wins

 

[KCN]

Team 1 wins, quite comfortably.

 

[adeshina365]

Team 2 wins.

 

[KCN]

what's naruto counter to the dome and GSB?

Base Bee (or v1, I forgot) was doing pretty darn well in avoiding Kisame for a while. In his Gyuki form he'd be able to help Naruto escape without a doubt. Then we have the fact that Ma can reverse summon all 3 boss toads, meaning you've now got 4 Bijuu sized creatures who are all naturally good swimmers. WD isn't an effective technique here, especially since you've got to consider Kisame's teammates who would surely get caught in it.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Team 1 would win it

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Base Bee (or v1, I forgot) was doing pretty darn well in avoiding Kisame for a while. In his Gyuki form he'd be able to help Naruto escape without a doubt. Then we have the fact that Ma can reverse summon all 3 boss toads, meaning you've now got 4 Bijuu sized creatures who are all naturally good swimmers. WD isn't an effective technique here, especially since you've got to consider Kisame's teammates who would surely get caught in it.

it was v2 bee, and kisame's teammates can easily get out, deva simply flying away or itachi using water techs to speed himself up. ST already 1 shotted all 3 toads at once.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Toad flame bomb > WD n GSB

Water>Fire in the NV. GSB absorbs chakra and the db said the toad oil is made from converted chakra

 

[KCN]

it was v2 bee, and kisame's teammates can easily get out, deva simply flying away or itachi using water techs to speed himself up. ST already 1 shotted all 3 toads at once.

- So V2 Bee was doing fine, a full Gyuki Bee would do even better.
- Water techs to speed himself up? Explain?
- Deva can one shot the toads, but is he using that technique in the waterdome, which is what I'm explicitly talking about here? Probably not. A technique of that scale would disperse the entire water dome as well as potentially one shot Kisame himself. Once Deva uses that ST, Sasuke one shots him with Susano'o arrow.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Don't see how Team 2 doesn't destroy the opposition.

With the unnecessary restriction of TBB, Hachibi mode is rendered ineffective while Totsuka/Yata is at play. Not to mention, GSB and Kisamehada's ability to absorb chakra, and Deva knocking him around with ST. All other Bee's forms was canonically inefficient to take down Kisame, and he sure isn't contesting Itachi. Sasuke and his Susano'o attacks are countered by ST, and GSB hard counters it. SM Naruto gets mowed down by the collective efforts of Itachi, Deva, and Kisame. Team 1 has nothing on them, as even collectively, they aren't bypassing Itachi's god weapon wielding V4 Susano'o who can do essentially anything he wants here. Which also allows his team to excel at what they need to do as well.

Edit: Oh wait, Bee can't even use BM. How is this even a competitive high-diff fight?

 

[KCN]

Don't see how Team 2 doesn't destroy the opposition.

With the unnecessary restriction of TBB, Hachibi mode is rendered ineffective while Totsuka/Yata is at play. Not to mention, GSB and Kisamehada's ability to absorb chakra, and Deva knocking him around with ST. All other Bee's forms was canonically inefficient to take down Kisame, and he sure isn't contesting Itachi. Sasuke and his Susano'o attacks are countered by ST, and GSB hard counters it. SM Naruto gets mowed down by the collective efforts of Itachi, Deva, and Kisame. Team 1 has nothing on them, as even collectively, they aren't bypassing Itachi's god weapon wielding V4 Susano'o who can do essentially anything he wants here. Which also allows his team to excel at what they need to do as well.

Edit: Oh wait, Bee can't even use BM. How is this even a competitive high-diff fight?

ST's cool down would get instantly exploited. Either Sasuke's susano'o arrow or a RS from Naruto would do the trick. Itachi's Susano'o can get destabilized by frog song which has pretty much the same effects as Tayuya's jutsu, a paralysis of the body.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmao Team 2 takes Team 1 easily.

Team 2 cannot get past Itachi's Susanoo at the V3 or V4 stage. Let's make that very clear. FRS caps out at an ordinary v3 at best without Yata Mirror let alone with Yata Mirror. Deva can easily obliterate any version of FRS using Shinra Tensei, and Itachi's Susanoo protects him from any offense that the Jins and Sasuke try to mount within those 5 seconds.

-If Sasuke brings out his own Susanoo GSB takes it apart. Itachi protects him from any Susanoo Arrow attempts (or he just absorbs it lmao)

-Deva's Shinra Tensei at max power even w/ this restriction is enough to one shot SM Naruto, deal heavy damage to Killer B most likely, and obviously Sasuke without Susanoo dies. And it's strong enough to repel any offensive attack Team 1 has.

-Frog Call is useless. As we know it paralyzes but it won't cause Susanoo to come down as there is nothing implying it's as intense as White Rage.

-Kirin is tanked by Itachi like in canon. And anyone engaging this team in close quarters is going to get wrecked. Sasuke can easily pull his weight due to Susanoo, but Naruto would get molested in CQC against Itachi alone even if he had V2 B as back up. They have Sasuke as back up but Itachi has Kisame and Deva who are infinitely more useful. Sasuke is the person keeping Naruto and B alive in this match.

When Sasuke's Susanoo is taken down Bansho Tennin pulls them towards Itachi and then V4 Susanoo swings it's blade and ends them all in one shot. Unrestrict Bijuu Mode and it becomes a better fight, but I still see Team 1 losing due to:

1. Hachibi Mode's vulnerability to Totsuka and Amaterasu.
2. GSB might be able to take a single standard Bijuu Dama.
3. Shinra Tensei that can throw Bijuu sized creatures from the center of Konoha to the outskirts should be able to deflect the BD Hachibi is capable of using if Naruto's partial transformation can slap them that far away.

 

[00Rinne]

Don't see how Team 2 doesn't destroy the opposition.

With the unnecessary restriction of TBB, Hachibi mode is rendered ineffective while Totsuka/Yata is at play. Not to mention, GSB and Kisamehada's ability to absorb chakra, and Deva knocking him around with ST. All other Bee's forms was canonically inefficient to take down Kisame, and he sure isn't contesting Itachi. Sasuke and his Susano'o attacks are countered by ST, and GSB hard counters it. SM Naruto gets mowed down by the collective efforts of Itachi, Deva, and Kisame. Team 1 has nothing on them, as even collectively, they aren't bypassing Itachi's god weapon wielding V4 Susano'o who can do essentially anything he wants here. Which also allows his team to excel at what they need to do as well.

Edit: Oh wait, Bee can't even use BM. How is this even a competitive high-diff fight?

^^^This!

 

[KCN]

Nvm. I just considered the fact that both Kisame and Itachi have defences sufficient enough to protect Deva long enough to one shot 2/3 of this team. Team 2 wins.

 

[ToshiZO]

Team 2 wins because of restrictions.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

ST's cool down would get instantly exploited. Either Sasuke's susano'o arrow or a RS from Naruto would do the trick. Itachi's Susano'o can get destabilized by frog song which has pretty much the same effects as Tayuya's jutsu, a paralysis of the body.

Deva has canonically been able to physically dodge FRS, Susano'o arrow is a possibility assuming his team doesn't come to his defense. Either way, if Deva is using ST, whoever the target is, is unlikely in a position to be able to counter attack and exploit it's cool down. Sasuke will absolutely not be able to sit idly and camp comfortably in his Susano'o like he prefers to do, else he gets hard countered by GSB.

Tayuya's genjutsu controls the targets chakra system, Frog Song does not. That is also a close-med range jutsu, in which case SM Naruto gets slaughtered by Itachi.