AGoodBoy
Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
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So, basically... madara, who shat on naruto and 8 bijuu, with another eye? LoL. Let me read this.
Stage 1 - Gokage Neg diff. Edo madara was already capable of low diff if taken seriously.
Stage 2 - Akatsuki Neg/Low diff. Obito will be problematic
Stage 3 - BSM Naruto & EMS Sasuke Already negged both these guys in canon with 1 less eye
Stage 4 - Obito bijuu jinz gedo mazo neg
Stage 6 - Edo Madara not sure if serious... Obv neg. This mad is in a diff league because of SM. it's the diff between base nardo and sm nardo. It's just a stomp.
Stage 7 - EMS Madara with Kurama Please don't tell me you're on of those that think vote mad's stronger than edo mads
Stage 8 - SM Hashirama Low diff. He has all his abilities + limbo :|
Stage 9 - BSM Minato & BSM Naruto Finally, we getting interesting. Low/med diff. SM madara's capable of dodging FTG. Ontop of that he has contact absorption and ranged binding. This is too much for these two. They go down with a little struggle snuggle.
Stage 10 - 5 Hokages Low/med diff. Hashi and minato are the only factors. Everyone else is fodder near them. Tobirama already got 1 paneled by a mads with 1 less eye. Hashi gets 1 panelled. Minato goes down with some struggle due to BSM.
Stage 11 - Juubito
This is where most people -- fanboys, haters, some logical members -- will claim mads will lose, but he wouldn't. Madara will take this med/high diff.
Stage 1 - Gokage Neg diff. Edo madara was already capable of low diff if taken seriously.
Stage 2 - Akatsuki Neg/Low diff. Obito will be problematic
Stage 3 - BSM Naruto & EMS Sasuke Already negged both these guys in canon with 1 less eye
Stage 4 - Obito bijuu jinz gedo mazo neg
Stage 6 - Edo Madara not sure if serious... Obv neg. This mad is in a diff league because of SM. it's the diff between base nardo and sm nardo. It's just a stomp.
Stage 7 - EMS Madara with Kurama Please don't tell me you're on of those that think vote mad's stronger than edo mads
Stage 8 - SM Hashirama Low diff. He has all his abilities + limbo :|
Stage 9 - BSM Minato & BSM Naruto Finally, we getting interesting. Low/med diff. SM madara's capable of dodging FTG. Ontop of that he has contact absorption and ranged binding. This is too much for these two. They go down with a little struggle snuggle.
Stage 10 - 5 Hokages Low/med diff. Hashi and minato are the only factors. Everyone else is fodder near them. Tobirama already got 1 paneled by a mads with 1 less eye. Hashi gets 1 panelled. Minato goes down with some struggle due to BSM.
Stage 11 - Juubito
This is where most people -- fanboys, haters, some logical members -- will claim mads will lose, but he wouldn't. Madara will take this med/high diff.
The simple fact is, madara fully counters this guy on so many levels. SM empowered PS as a lot more powerful than what sasuke used against him (SM boosts ninjutsu while CS doesn't). This massive bump is enough to tip madara above juubito as sasuke/naruto were already pushing him to the limit. Ontop of that, Madara is extremely fast and, by feats, he's completely capable of dodging and even hitting juubito.
Where juubito couldn't dodge FTG users, madara did it quite casually. Nothing stops madara from dodging obito especially with SM full spectrum view of the entire battlefield.
Therefore Madara trumps obito in;
- Defence - SM-PS > omnyoudon since it can easily shatter omnyoudon but omnyoudon can't easily take it down (see: naruto and sasuke vs juubito).
- Reaction - obito was incapable of dodging ftg's while madara could. Ontop of that, madara has inherent sensor abilities and SM to greatly enhance perception
- Offence - Limbo, SM-PS can both bypass obito's defenses while obito can't bypass madaras.
To end it, most people's argument is "Juubito uses 6 suns + juubi dama". Well, first of all, MAdara can shatter juubito's defense leaving him wide open to being killed by his own jutsu. Secondly, There's nothing that even suggests that TBB can bust an SM enhanced Perfect Susano'o. I won't list PS feats right now because it's been said and done a lot (tenpechi, point blank TBB) however, I will try to give an idea of how power of a boost SM could give it.
Where juubito couldn't dodge FTG users, madara did it quite casually. Nothing stops madara from dodging obito especially with SM full spectrum view of the entire battlefield.
Therefore Madara trumps obito in;
- Defence - SM-PS > omnyoudon since it can easily shatter omnyoudon but omnyoudon can't easily take it down (see: naruto and sasuke vs juubito).
- Reaction - obito was incapable of dodging ftg's while madara could. Ontop of that, madara has inherent sensor abilities and SM to greatly enhance perception
- Offence - Limbo, SM-PS can both bypass obito's defenses while obito can't bypass madaras.
To end it, most people's argument is "Juubito uses 6 suns + juubi dama". Well, first of all, MAdara can shatter juubito's defense leaving him wide open to being killed by his own jutsu. Secondly, There's nothing that even suggests that TBB can bust an SM enhanced Perfect Susano'o. I won't list PS feats right now because it's been said and done a lot (tenpechi, point blank TBB) however, I will try to give an idea of how power of a boost SM could give it.
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is madara's V2 (some call it V3) susano'o. It was capable of tanking the force of 9 tailed beasts and only left madara with 1 arm gone. That's actually not that much damage for all the power they dished out on him. It really does showcase the defence of SM susano'o as this is 2 levels below PS, therefore much smaller in size and much weaker. In fact, just
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; it's smaller than kyuubi's tail while PS is nearing the size of the juubi and is as big/bigger as that same tree which fires the tbb's.[
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] It's monstrous and with that size comes massive defence. It took hashirama's greatest technique to only remove half of a weaker PS just for reference. Last point I'd like to note is that those 4 tbb's couldn't even
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... I have absolutely no reason to beleive they can bring down PS; not like madara's can't just limbo them all to 1 corner of the barrier, anyway, so that he only takes residual damage.
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