[VS] SM Kabuto VS BM Bee
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HiddenSound
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Manda II could potentially land a surprise attack from underground like Manda did against Gamabunta. Potentially.
But in an all out contest? No, Gyuki is superior.
Gold Lightning
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No doubt manda 2 could potentially surprise gyuki and even bind him momentarily. but gyuki will eventually over power the snake.
But their ain't no slapping tailed beast bombs back at bee, using manual tail XD
Brother Numpsay
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Call me out and expect to be put to place. If you can actually point out the flaw in my reasoning and logic, instead of bandwagon and looking as clueless as much as them, then maybe you can talk.Ejblack tho
I have good reasons to believe that Manda 2 should be able to replicate what Kurama did to C.Tbb and rival Juubi's flicking power.
1. Is the very fact that we can classify the weight of the projectile: V2 Kurama charges a tbb,
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, testifying that it now that its dense chakra out weights himself and the strength V2 is capable of. Going full BM for any Buijuu shows that the weight of their TBB isn't the problem anymore. But it does not leave out evidence that the TBB should at least weight out the BM themselves. War arc showed this, when Buijuu's TBB caved the ground when pointed closer to it[
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]. The same ground leveling then Buijuu's entered their full mode[
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].2. The very fact that the platform's in Turtle Island can handle who's weight:
Exhibit A:
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Exhibit B:
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.Manda 2 outclasses Buijuu's and sheer mass and weight. And considering Manda 1 crazy physical strength and speed, and reaction prowess feat, a logically conclude that a superior version would do much better.
The attack power of 5tails was able to easily knock back Gyuki as much as Gyuki projectile being flung back at him[
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]. At the same time and single swap from able knock away 5tails when correctly countering its attack being used the second time[
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].This outright shows the comparison to that to Buijuu compare to their TBB. And Exhibit B of Manda 2's feats can give a logically conclusion of replicating what Kurama yet alone Gyuki himself are capable of.
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HiddenSound
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I'm wondering whether or not Manda II's venom would be effective in fighting Gyuki, if he gets bitten. Either way to fight Gyuki it'd have to remain extremely close to stop Gyuki from using TBB, or else both would be caught in the blast.
But yeah... There's no deflecting a TBB . _.
Are you really trying to argue that manda can flick away all the tbbs being thrown it's way based on mass alone..? Can you even prove that manda can swing it's tail w/ the same power as a traveling tbb?
Brother Numpsay
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I dont know why you have to use the word/verb "flick" to make my words express in a way that makes my argument look funny. If you read it properly you would know that I added to the fact of Manda's weight include supports a tail swipe Manda 2 would be physically capable of. I measure all physical attributes, not just his mass.
I already did in my premise you snip out.
1. I base and compare a Buijuu bomb to the Buijuu's themselves. They weight at least the same or the ball is a bit lighter.
2. Gyuuki was knocked back by both Buijuu and TBB.
3. He also knock back a Buijuu, would would carry more or even amount of weight, that had momentum built in his attack (wither slower then the tbb or not dont matter.)
4. The environment they are standing, in War arc Buijuu's, could not stand a TBB's hovering over the ground without out of leveling and breaking apart.
5. The environment Gyuki was standing inside Turtle Island could stand a TBB hovering over the ground with it standing firm.
6. Manda 2 shows otherwise (point 5)
7. If Juubi's doesn't needs to put much strength in its attack, capable of flicking a TBB to physically overpower it, Manda 2 comparable size (to its tails) could do it with power behind its attack.
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"Flick" "hit" "smack" "knock back" "deflect" whatever, it's all semantics. Don't take my words out of context, I'm simply referring to the act of changing the tbbs trajectory 180 degrees.
No, I read your post properly, nothing in it proves that manda has the power to change a tbbs trajectory w/o having it explode in it's face though.
This has nothing to do w/ a traveling tbb which adds much more force to the attack, mass is irrelevant otherwise tbbs would be bouncing off of the earth itself [much heavier than both manda & the bijuu alike]. It's about the opposing force having the power to deflect it, the earth obviously doesn't & so the tbb explodes on impact.
Gyuki was knocked back by kokuo, the most
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of all the bijuu so this comparison doesn't hold. But as I said knocking back a bijuu is irrelevant anyways, doesn't compare to a traveling tbb.Lol Again this doesn't prove your point, saying the speed of a tbb doesn't matter makes no sense when you're trying to prove that manda has enough power to knock it back.
No, a tbb when close to the ground or charged to massive proportions creates a crater yes, but when a bijuu fires a standard one normally nothing happens, they don't sink into the ground. Bee didn't sink when charging his tbbs
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, kurama didn't sink into the ground after
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his tbbs, the juubi
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either.If only you would take a closer look...The "platforms" that were casually holding up gyuki + the tbb [like every platform does] literally got vaporized when bee shot through them.
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This alone proves that you can't even begin to compare a stationary tbb to a traveling one, since a traveling one has much more force behind it, more than manda II [since it wasn't vaporizing the spikes as it was slithering through them].
As I said manda didn't do anything that a standard tbb can't do to those spikes, so I don't see a reason for it to have the power to even stop a tbb w/o it blowing up let alone deflect one.
Baseless, the juubi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manda II in terms of physical strength, nothing suggests that just because manda is heavy or close to the juubi in size that means it's attack has enough power to flick back a tbb.
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Brother Numpsay
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Most of my rebuttal would address how some of your points are irrelevant to mine and some misconception that would have us on, whos right or wrong. Not going through this.
But what I did find out, after another evaluation, that I didn't factor all the distance the characters were that was able to repel a TBB, which were nearly close range. I dont want to argue something we have never experience anyone doing, not even Juubi himself. So ill drop my argument if it meant Manda 2 swapping them away any time and any place.
They are stronger arguments of Manda 2 encounter Bee in close range then attempt to counter a TBB in close range. So Ill drop the swapping tbb point.
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