SM Jiraiya gauntlet
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He counters all of his jutsu?
CQC is useless against Domu so his enhanced speed is not helping much here
Rasnegnan doesn't affect Kakuzu
Frog song is countered by raising air pressure to extreme ( That means sound waves can't travel) or merely flying upwards with one of his masks by connecting via threads
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The hearts can zip around bunta and spam him with jutsu gian should be able to penetrate him he's not THAT big I don't believe
Nah Domu should still prevail it couldn't even burn through snake skin quickly ( Manda was able to shed it before hand) It shouldnt do much to diamond skin, not to mention Kakuzu's combo is also some pretty heavy shit
Not at all.
Yes, Gian will penetrate Bunta, but I don't see why Jiraiya can't just make clones to counter the masks.
I agree on this though, I guess Kakuzu with Hidan could be a terrible match-up for Jiraiya. Still think Jiraiya wins though, I'm sure he will counter Domu in some way, I just don't know/care much of/for his abilities.
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lol, Kakuzu is not escaping Gama Rinsho. All he has to do is hear it and he's trapped. And he has no knowledge of Gama Rinsho, either, so he's going to have no reason to do either of the two things you listed. He might think the toads are going to use some kind of an attack when they start trying to synch, but what's going to make him react any differently than how the 3 Paths reacted, which was by trying to take on Jiraiya head to head.
And even using some where argument where he flys in to the sky upon hearing their synching, he's gonna have to go up pretty damn high before he gets to the point where he can't hear it.
It's scale/loudness is so great it can entrap hundreds of enemies.
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Jiraiya can trap the airborne elemental masks in Toad Gourd Prison, and the ones on the ground in Yomi Numa. The latter masks get incinerated by a giant, oil-enhanced katon, or crushed by food cart destroyer if they try to break out. That leaves Kakuzu alone with only one heart, who gets shat on in a real 1v1.
Edit: Toad Mouth Bind, not Toad Gourd Prison
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And how exactly will he trap them inside toad gourd prison? We don't even know how this jutsu works in the first place, so saying it's trapping airborne units is rather baseless. Rest of the argument is insignificant and makes no sense, because fights don't play out like that.
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He is, but all of Kisames advantages are neutralized in front of SM Jiraiya and his toad summons. Plus, Kisame would need to be extremely cautious with how much Senjutsu he allows Samehada to absorb. I just don't see it playing well at the end for Kisame. High-diff win though.
How does 3rd Raikage counter Frog Song once he gets within medium range of SM Jiraiya though? That should be enough to paralyze him. The paralysis should force the Raikage to drop his raiton shroud, lowering his defenses, in a similar fashion as Kabutos White Rage did to Itachi and Sasuke. From there,
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will wrap around the Raikage and begin to dissolve him with acidic slime that ignores durability. If this doesn't kill the 3rd, it should hinder him significantly. Still don't see how he wins against someone with the versatility and firepower that SM Jiraiya possesses.
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Is that so? What's your idea of how a fight plays out, then?
Edit: I meant Toad Mouth Bind, not Gourd Prison.
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Enhanced speed and reactions means he can evade his attacks easier. So it does help.
Rasengan doesn't do solely internal damage, so don't say that Kakuzu is made of pure thread. Rasengan explodes, and if he gets hit with a Rasengan three times the size of his body, he's going to have a mangled body..unless Domu is active of course.
Uh, Atsugai doesn't change the air pressure of the air. The wind used for the jutsu is what has high air pressure, so the Sound Waves can still travel through the air. Frog Song's chant lasts for a few seconds, Atsugai's blast doesn't.
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The databook entry for it is:
According to Jiraiya, Animal Path charged right in to it:
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So I'm not exactly sure if by "one drags" it means Jiraiya would have to drag the opponent in to it(or have the opponent rush in to it, ala Animal Path), or if it means the toad grabs the enemy and drags him/her in to it. I'm leaning towards the former, myself.
What's interesting to me is Fukasaku implies(as does Jiraiya) that the enemy cannot attack the toad gourd/that Jiraiya is safe so long as he stays in the gourd. Not sure if this means by getting close to or touching the gourd, you're sucked in.
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It's questionable as to how toad mouth bind works out in the open, honestly. The databook claims this can trick opponents if they're inside of a building or a cave, but makes no mention of open space.
Could imply it takes time/there's time to notice what's happening before you're trapped in open space, as it would have to build walls around the opponent rather than "growing" out of the walls in a building and cave.
Enhanced speed, reactions stay the same he can perceive and react is mental not physical
Rasengan doesn't explode? If you mean the end where the force pushes the opponent back then yeah Kakuzu would still be thrown back a bit but it won't do anything towards ending Kakuzu, also mangled body? He can unmangle anything by re-attaching threads also show me where Rasengan leaves a body mangled?
First of Atsugi does last quite a bit, as it was continuously blowing back team 10
Second the frog chant doesn't automatically put the opponent into the genjutsu it takes a bit of time, Kakuzu can easily use the jutsu twice negating the build up time anyways
Third Yes but air-pressure side effects is relative loss of hearing for a bit, which is common knowledge even in sudden spikes the people within can't regain hearing for a few seconds after whether this is due to a problem with the pressure affecting the ears or the sound waves Im not sure but either way the effects last a little longer then the spike itself
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Well, I was thinking that the technique could work similar to how Jiraiya used it against Pain. He used one of his shadow clones reverse summon the cerebrus into the eso****us of a toad.
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Sage Mode is stated to
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Explosion.
Lol.......so Kakuzu is going to tank a Chou Oodama Rasengan with what? His body? He needs Domu. Yura was killed in one shot of an Oodama Rasengan, and that's from KN0 Naruto. SM Jiraiya's Chou Oodama Rasengan>>>that. Senjutsu and the fact it's much larger. If Preta Path had taken that directly, what do you think would have happened? He would have been obliterated. A Small Senpo Rasengan carved a hole in Juubito's back.
Can't show you for obvious reasons, as it hasn't happened yet. It's just common sense. If a Rasengan 3x the size of your body hits you, you are obviously going to have a damaged body...unless you think it's all internal...which it isn't. Mangled probably isn't the right word though.
For a second. Lol.
Except it's not going to do anything, because the pressure of the air doesn't go up when Atsugai is used. The jutsu is made of p
1. Didn't happen in the manga, to ninja, when they fought Kakuzu. Why would the same happen here? Pretty sure I already told you this.
2. That's if the air pressure increases, Atsugai doesn't raise air pressure, the wind of the jutsu is at an extremely high pressure. Big difference.