SM Hashirama vs All of Akatsuki (except Obito)

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Is this Nagato or pain ?
 

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There is a misconception going on here

First of all, Hashirama says "he". That alone shows he was talking about the quantity of chakra Naruto managed to handle. Later judging by the sudden chakra cloak he was seeing, he started to make a comparison. The comparison here like i've said was concerning the volume of chakra Naruto(with Kyubi's chakra) was capable to handle. It simply implies Hashirama could basically do the same, but it doesn't mean Hashirama has an amount of chakra equivalent to Kyubi's, not at all

I hope people realise Kyubi gives only a limited and determined amount of chakra to Naruto depending on the situation. He isn't giving all his chakra to Naruto or otherwise he would die(without chakra you die). Hashirama simply noticed the chakra Naruto was handling was comparable to his own before quickly realising there was the nine tails chakra mixed in it, and it's not the first time people confuse their chakra(Shi and Hinata were also confused if it was Naruto's chakra pattern or Kyubi's). Hashirama doesn't possess a chakra comparable to the Kyubi.

He does possess a chakra comparable to the quantity of Kyubi's chakra Naruto was handling. Even in latest chapter, it's stated Naruto increased the quantity of chakra while entering in full Bijuu mode: Again proving that the quantity of Kyubi's chakra Naruto can handle is variable and depends on him, especially since the moment he got Kyubi as a friend something again confirmed by Hachibi:

Naruto can't even stay in Biju Mode for long because they don't have a perfect link, and thus limiting the amount of chakra Naruto can take even more:

OT: Hashirama wins. The only one who can smh do something is Nagato, but he need his strongest attacks to keep up with Hashirama and it takes too much tolls on his body for it to be relevant in a long run
 

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OT: Hashirama wins. The only one who can smh do something is Nagato, but he need his strongest attacks to keep up with Hashirama and it takes too much tolls on his body for it to be relevant in a long run

Basically my thoughts on the matter.
 

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If this is Nagato, then Hashi is up against Gedo Mazo.


Gedo Mazo is the game changer imo. I give this to hash high diff w/o Gedo Mazo, add Gedo Mazo and Akatsuki med diffs.


Remember that 2 Akatsuki members alone can take a bijuu on. Hell Kisame solo'd the 2nd strongest jin, and Pain would have beaten kurama if he wasn't weakened.

Kisame has large scale water techs, Deidara can rain explosives all over the air, while Gedo Mazo takes Hashi on. A pain that solo'd a whole village stated he was capable of making CT bigger to capture Kurama when he transformed in to 8 tails.
 
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Hashirama stomps all of them. What is with this thread? If he's bloodlusted, he brings out the buddha right off the bat and shits on them.
 

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Akatsuki wank aside...


Hashirama mid-high being generous... They have no counters for hotei, hobi or shinsenjuu and wood dragaon stops them from using ninjustu(meaning he can restrain any path of pain he chooses)

They lose
 

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Akatsuki wank aside...


Hashirama mid-high being generous... They have no counters for hotei, hobi or shinsenjuu and wood dragaon stops them from using ninjustu(meaning he can restrain any path of pain he chooses)

They lose

Am I considered a wanker because I said Akatsuki can take this high diff with Gedo Mazo?
 

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You mean to tell Hashirama can win without a scratch lol. Thats all it takes to win.

First you have Sasori who can take advantage of his plate armor with magnetic priority, by either drawing him in on having iron sand attract his movement.

Or have Deva do it while everyone barrages. One blood spilt and its up for hidan.

Thats just a sample of this team combination.

Hashirama gets raped
 

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What can the mazo do?

Unless it's prepped to ten-tails than yeah Akatsuki stomp

Mazo provides good defense for the Akatsuki. BM Naruto and KB weren't even able to take it out while Itachi and Sasuke took care of Kabuto.

Gedo Mazo also is capable of soul ripping, Hashi will have to mainly focus on fighting the Mazo. Meanwhile you have ambush attacks from Kisame behind, Deidara, Konan, Kakuzu, and Sasori above, oh and Black Zetsu is a huge issue here because of mayfly, so the ground as well.

+ You have Pain's animal paths which will attack Hashirama, the dog can only be taken out with wood dragon, otherwise it'll keep multiplying.

+ Pain's bird can fly Itachi getting him close enough for Amaterasu.

Pain also has CT as well as a last resort technique.

Hashirama is being overwhelmed here.
 
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Mazo provides good defense for the Akatsuki. BM Naruto and KB weren't even able to take it out while Itachi and Sasuke took care of Kabuto.

Naruto was only KCM, plus it was an offscreen fight but when we got back those guys were tearing it up
Gedo Mazo also is capable of soul ripping

Hanzo dodged it
Hashi will have to mainly focus on fighting the Mazo.

Wood restraints

[/QUOTE]Meanwhile you have ambush attacks from Kisame behind, Deidara, Kakuzu, and Sasori above, oh and Black Zetsu is a huge issue here because of mayfly, so the ground as well.[/QUOTE]

Wood Man squashes
 

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Naruto was only KCM, plus it was an offscreen fight but when we got back those guys were tearing it up


Hanzo dodged it


Wood restraints
Meanwhile you have ambush attacks from Kisame behind, Deidara, Kakuzu, and Sasori above, oh and Black Zetsu is a huge issue here because of mayfly, so the ground as well.[/QUOTE]

Wood Man squashes[/QUOTE]

The fight was off screen, but here's the thing. KB and Naruto failed to take it out, despite Madara not even being there, also having Kakashi and Gai as support. Should add that it wasn't just KCM Naruto, but Killer Bee as well.

Hanzo dodged it, but Hashirama can't simply ignore the Mazo, he will restrain it with wood most likely, but Hashi will still have to deal with C4, 1000s of water sharks, Amaterasu, the strongest summonings in the Narutoverse after Kurama, and if he shields himself Zetsu's mayfly can sneak attack.
 
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Meanwhile you have ambush attacks from Kisame behind, Deidara, Kakuzu, and Sasori above, oh and Black Zetsu is a huge issue here because of mayfly, so the ground as well.

Wood Man squashes[/QUOTE]

The fight was off screen, but here's the thing. KB and Naruto failed to take it out, despite Madara not even being there, also having Kakashi and Gai as support. Should add that it wasn't just KCM Naruto, but Killer Bee as well.

H
anzo dodged it, but Hashirama can't simply ignore the Mazo, he will restrain it with wood most likely,

Got that out of the way


but Hashi will still have to deal with C4,

C$ affects aktasuki members too

1000s of water sharks,

Hobi tanks

Amaterasu,

Dodges

the strongest summonings in the Narutoverse after Kurama,

Based on?

and if he shields himself Zetsu's mayfly can sneak attack.

SM sensing or Hashirama wood clone feints
 

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If this is Nagato, then Hashi is up against Gedo Mazo.


Gedo Mazo is the game changer imo. I give this to hash high diff w/o Gedo Mazo, add Gedo Mazo and Akatsuki med diffs.


Remember that 2 Akatsuki members alone can take a bijuu on. Hell Kisame solo'd the 2nd strongest jin, and Pain would have beaten kurama if he wasn't weakened.

Kisame has large scale water techs, Deidara can rain explosives all over the air, while Gedo Mazo takes Hashi on. A pain that solo'd a whole village stated he was capable of making CT bigger to capture Kurama when he transformed in to 8 tails.


Mazo provides good defense for the Akatsuki. BM Naruto and KB weren't even able to take it out while Itachi and Sasuke took care of Kabuto.

Gedo Mazo also is capable of soul ripping, Hashi will have to mainly focus on fighting the Mazo. Meanwhile you have ambush attacks from Kisame behind, Deidara, Konan, Kakuzu, and Sasori above, oh and Black Zetsu is a huge issue here because of mayfly, so the ground as well.

+ You have Pain's animal paths which will attack Hashirama, the dog can only be taken out with wood dragon, otherwise it'll keep multiplying.

+ Pain's bird can fly Itachi getting him close enough for Amaterasu.

Pain also has CT as well as a last resort technique.

Hashirama is being overwhelmed here.


just stawp hashi murders them gedo mazo pale in comparison to ps and kurama alone let alone something that took them both down 100 punches turns gedo mazo to dust

deidara is a non factor his biggest is explosion is c3/c0 SS took 10+ bijuu damas with ps swords non in the deidara arsenal is uselss

kisame fodder not only does he have senjutsu trees are alive and ss stands mountains above it

Kakuzu Sasori konan zetsu - no explanation needed

itachi is fodderized by mokujin

nagato is stomped also uses gedo mazo cripples him so he would be done for regarless people forget SS can shoot wood spikes like this from its body

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image that from 2000 hands deidara is a non factor plus the hotei gates could also subdue gedo mazo like it did the muscle juubi and c4 is much to small its about 50 feet above tree level the buddah is about 200 feet above mountain level even without its hands

zetsu is useless like a weaker hashi he can sense plus he can move through the ground much easier than zetsu also hashirama's buddah 5 elements hashirama low diff
 
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