SM Hashirama + (Vote) EMS Madara without Kyuubi + Rinnengan=Hagoromo Ootsutsuki

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KCMNaruto

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Hello guys, I would like to talk about Hagoromo Ootsutsuki, The First with tittle Sage of six paths.
I will try to create formula to get Sage of six paths from fusion of other characters or their powers.

OK, let's me get started.

1) Rinnengan:

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2) Senjuu and Uchiha:

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Pinacle of Uchiha clan: Madara Uchiha:

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Pinacle of Senjuu clan: Hashirama Senjuu:

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3) Sage mode/Senjutsu:

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^^ Kabuto knew a lot about the Sage of six paths and still he made this statement:

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^^ Here Kabuto compared himself to Sage of six paths himself, and let's be serious nothing other then Sage mode what Kabuto had could be compared to Sage of six paths's abilities.

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^^ We know that Ten tails contain nature energy as stated here, and guess what ten tails weakness is ?

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^^ Senjutsu is Ten tails weakness, and the Sage of six paths faced and defeated Ten tails:

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^^ as you can see here ;)

I hope that I proved my point, that acutal formula is: SM Hashirama + (Vote) EMS Madara without Kyuubi + Rinnengan=Hagoromo Ootsutsuki

Of course this is pre or Post Ten tails Host Hagoromo Ootsutsuki, actually to get Ten tails Host Hagoromo Ootsutsuki you need to add Ten tails in formula, like that:

SM Hashirama + (Vote) EMS Madara without Kyuubi + Rinnengan+ Ten tails=Ten tails Host Hagoromo Ootsutsuki

Thanks for reading !

Please share your thoughts :)
 
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Uchiha+Senju+Rinnegan makes you equal to SO6P (pre juubi).
 

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SM Hashirama + DSM Orochimaru + EMS Madara + Rinnegan. The world would not be ready.
 

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Uchiha+Senju+Rinnegan makes you equal to SO6P (pre juubi).

Well exactly but you forgot about Senjutsu/Sage mode... which I believe by manga panels and statements of Kabuto I proved to be true ;)

like that: SM Hashirama + (Vote) EMS Madara without Kyuubi + Rinnengan=Hagoromo Ootsutsuki

Thanks for reply anyway ;)
 

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Well exactly but you forgot about Senjutsu/Sage mode... which I believe by manga panels and statements of Kabuto I proved to be true ;)

like that: SM Hashirama + (Vote) EMS Madara without Kyuubi + Rinnengan=Hagoromo Ootsutsuki

Thanks for reply anyway ;)

there is no proof that SO6P in the manga that SO6P had SM. What Kabuto said was just someone cocky saying he is close to the strongest person.

He probably had it which helped him against Juubi. But that is just speculation. Uchiha + Senju makes you a SO6P:
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all of these scans shows the Uchiha+Senju powers and bloodline combined makes you the sage of 6 paths, we already know that when you have Uchiha+Senju DNA, you awaken the rinnegan so with that being said, you automatically became the sage of 6 paths:
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Ability wise? I agree. Power wise? No.
 

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Add Juubito, Nagato, DSM Kabuto and i might consider it adding up to SO6P
 

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there is no proof that SO6P in the manga that SO6P had SM. What Kabuto said was just someone cocky saying he is close to the strongest person.

He probably had it which helped him against Juubi. But that is just speculation. Uchiha + Senju makes you a SO6P:
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all of these scans shows the Uchiha+Senju powers and bloodline combined makes you the sage of 6 paths, we already know that when you have Uchiha+Senju DNA, you awaken the rinnegan so with that being said, you automatically became the sage of 6 paths:
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well that would be true except Kabuto didn't say it while being cocky but he was serious. He has not reasons to lie so most likely Sage of six paths had Sage mode, simpe as that.


Ability wise? I agree. Power wise? No.

Nice ;), so what The Sosp could be power wise ?

Add Juubito, Nagato, DSM Kabuto and i might consider it adding up to SO6P

Lol, no that would be too much as we are reffering to Pre Ten tails Host Hagoromo Ootsutsuki or Post Ten tails Host Hagoromo Ootsutsuki
 
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Thanks a lot ;)



It was obvious after your name of profile, so please do not bother yourself posting here anymore ;)

you lack open mind to debate in this thread :cool:

So me disagreeing = lack of open mind to debate in this thread.

Why would I debate if I agreed? At least try to use logic before getting mad. :yeah:
 

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Definitely disagreed unless Edo Madara, who is essentially Senju and Uchiha in one body, can suddenly use CoAT. Imo, CoAT is the one thing that separates SO6P to every other shinobi.

Also, SO6P had access to all the powers of a Juubi's jinchuuriki.
 

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So me disagreeing = lack of open mind to debate in this thread.

Why would I debate if I agreed? At least try to use logic before getting mad. :yeah:

Ok, smartass you caught me on that ;), anyway you are simply SOSP hater...

Why can't you understand and live with that Hashirama is third the most powerfull character even including Current Obito and Sage of six paths.

Definitely disagreed unless Edo Madara, who is essentially Senju and Uchiha in one body, can suddenly use CoAT. Imo, CoAT is the one thing that separates SO6P to every other shinobi.

Also, SO6P had access to all the powers of a Juubi's jinchuuriki.

Well... that woule be true ;) , however one scan from the manga would disagree

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If I understand it properly then it means Sage of six paths could use any technique due to Rinnengan. In other words Rinnengan works as gateway to all knowledge, which can be acquired along with your progress of mastering The Rinnengan. Rinnengan simple gives user potential to learn/create and use any technique, however all abilities are not granted but possible to got while progressing in mastery over Rinnengan.
 

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Actually Madara most likely has creation of all things just like Rikudou as seen here:
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Notice how black Zetsu comes out of nothing (Madara's hand), then Madara waves a hand seal to give life to Zetsu. That looks to me more like Creation Of All Things.
 

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Ok, smartass you caught me on that ;), anyway you are simply SOSP hater...

Why can't you understand and live with that Hashirama is third the most powerfull character even including Current Obito and Sage of six paths.



Well... that woule be true ;) , however one scan from the manga would disagree

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If I understand it properly then it means Sage of six paths could use any technique due to Rinnengan. In other words Rinnengan works as gateway to all knowledge, which can be acquired along with your progress of mastering The Rinnengan. Rinnengan simple gives user potential to learn/create and use any technique, however all abilities are not granted but possible to got while progressing in mastery over Rinnengan.
Look at the last line as well, SO6P had access to all the powers of a Juubi's jinchuuriki.

Anyway, it's really not easy to do, Nagato had the Rinnegan throughout his entire lifetime and he only mastered the 5 nature elements, not Yin/Yang Release.
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Notice how black Zetsu comes out of nothing (Madara's hand), then Madara waves a hand seal to give life to Zetsu. That looks to me more like Creation Of All Things.
Not on the same scale as SO6P dude. From what's implied from the manga, SO6P could use Izanagi over and over again without any drawbacks.
 

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Look at the last line as well, SO6P had access to all the powers of a Juubi's jinchuuriki.

Anyway, it's really not easy to do, Nagato had the Rinnegan throughout his entire lifetime and he only mastered the 5 nature elements, not Yin/Yang Release.

Bold is wrong. Nagato actually mastered them and this is confirmed in the *********** translation:
 

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Bold is wrong. Nagato actually mastered them and this is confirmed in the *********** translation:
'He mastered all the essential jutsus', CoAT isn't an essential jutsu.
'And at ten proficiently used them all', proficiently isn't mastered.

If Nagato had access to CoAT then he wouldn't have ever been beaten.
 

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'He mastered all the essential jutsus', CoAT isn't an essential jutsu.
'And at ten proficiently used them all', proficiently isn't mastered.

If Nagato had access to CoAT then he wouldn't have ever been beaten.

Creation of all things is superior version of Izanagi. Creation of all things can most likely be used if one has Uchiha and Senju powers rather than normal Yin Yang.

Nagato is only senju lineage, he doesn't the powers of Uchiha so he cannot use creation of all things. He just mastered normal Yin Yang techniques from the looks of it.

Not on the same scale as SO6P dude. From what's implied from the manga, SO6P could use Izanagi over and over again without any drawbacks.

Madara used it on Zetsu yet no drawbacks. We don't know if SO6P had enough chakra levels to actually create as much as he wants unless he has Juubi powers.
 

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Creation of all things is superior version of Izanagi. Creation of all things can most likely be used if one has Uchiha and Senju powers rather than normal Yin Yang.

Nagato is only senju lineage, he doesn't the powers of Uchiha so he cannot use creation of all things. He just mastered normal Yin Yang techniques from the looks of it.



Madara used it on Zetsu yet no drawbacks. We don't know if SO6P had enough chakra levels to actually create as much as he wants unless he has Juubi powers.
Yet Madara hasn't used it in battle yet, and Izanagi > what Madara did to Zetsu. What Madara did to Zetsu isn't a good enough technique to have any drawbacks.

SO6P already had the Juubi's powers from birth, gonna make a thread on this. Also, he created the moon while on his deathbed. Don't tell me otherwise when the manga has stated this a couple of times.
 
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