SM duo takes the gauntlet.

Blunt

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Oct 28, 2011
Messages
4,498
Reaction score
371
Blind SM Madara and DSM Kabuto take the gauntlet. Madara gets a jar with a single Rinnegan and Kabuto gets Sasuke’s corpse if they clear. Lol

Distance: 50m
Location: Deidara vs KN2 Naruto/Kakashi
Mindset: Bloodlusted
Intel: Manga knowledge.


1. Third Raikage & V2 Bee
2. Itachi and Kisame
3. (War arc) SM Naruto & SM Jiraiya
4. Edo Kage
5. KCM Naruto & MS Sasuke (Naruto is not friendly w/Kurama)
6. (Sharingan Trio) Danzo, MS Sasuke and MS Itachi
7. EMS Sasuke w/ Jugo
8. V1 Juubito
9. BSM Naruto
10. SM Hashirama and Tobirama

Restrictions: KA, Edo Tensei, Madara's Buddha (if he has it).
 
Last edited:

KidGamer65

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Aug 5, 2012
Messages
38,776
Reaction score
2,272
They stop at Sasuke w/ Jugo. Madara w/o both eyes can't use the full power of those eyes, which is Perfect Susanoo. Leaving him with his Edo Feats, Senjutsu enhanced, and V3 Susanoo. None of which can stand up to a Senjutsu enhanced Perfect Susanoo. Kabuto offers nothing that lets them win this either.
 

MadaraReturns

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Veteran
Joined
Jun 18, 2014
Messages
2,048
Reaction score
166
They stop at Sasuke w/ Jugo. Madara w/o both eyes can't use the full power of those eyes, which is Perfect Susanoo. Leaving him with his Edo Feats, Senjutsu enhanced, and V3 Susanoo. None of which can stand up to a Senjutsu enhanced Perfect Susanoo. Kabuto offers nothing that lets them win this either.

only itachi could use susanoo against white rage, sasuke's will perish i think.

@originalpost how the **** did you place juubito lower than bsm naruto? IF they can defeat juubito they clear the **** out of this gaunlet
 

Beans2

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Mar 12, 2014
Messages
8,937
Reaction score
462
They stop at Sasuke w/ Jugo. Madara w/o both eyes can't use the full power of those eyes, which is Perfect Susanoo. Leaving him with his Edo Feats, Senjutsu enhanced, and V3 Susanoo. None of which can stand up to a Senjutsu enhanced Perfect Susanoo. Kabuto offers nothing that lets them win this either.

Kabuto was battling EMS Sasuke and Edo Itachi with ease by himself. If you throw in Madara, Sasuke clearly loses. White rage + Flower tree world finishes Juugo/Sasuke
 

Blunt

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Oct 28, 2011
Messages
4,498
Reaction score
371
only itachi could use susanoo against white rage, sasuke's will perish i think.

@originalpost how the **** did you place juubito lower than bsm naruto? IF they can defeat juubito they clear the **** out of this gaunlet

There is a massive difference between mindless Juubito and v2 Juubito, don't compare the two as they're far apart in power, speed, durability, intelligence and just about every single way possible.
 
Last edited:

KidGamer65

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Aug 5, 2012
Messages
38,776
Reaction score
2,272
only itachi could use susanoo against white rage, sasuke's will perish i think.

If Sasuke is high enough, White Rage's light and sound can't affect him. If PS obliterates the Dragon and the orb before it explodes, White Rage won't work.

Kabuto was battling EMS Sasuke and Edo Itachi with ease by himself. If you throw in Madara, Sasuke clearly loses. White rage + Flower tree world finishes Juugo/Sasuke

He battled a Sasuke without Perfect Susanoo or Legged Susanoo. Sasuke with PS alone>EMS Sasuke w/o PS or legged Susanoo and Itachi combined. Not to mention Jugo gives him Senjutsu, boosting the strength of all his attacks.

White Rage gets countered like I said above and Flower Tree World is raped by PS.
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
If Sasuke is high enough, White Rage's light and sound can't affect him. If PS obliterates the Dragon and the orb before it explodes, White Rage won't work.



He battled a Sasuke without Perfect Susanoo or Legged Susanoo. Sasuke with PS alone>EMS Sasuke w/o PS or legged Susanoo and Itachi combined. Not to mention Jugo gives him Senjutsu, boosting the strength of all his attacks.

White Rage gets countered like I said above and Flower Tree World is raped by PS.


Why do you always argue characters starting off with their strongest techs? Alot of factors can happen before character rely on their strongest tech.
 

Blackdeath667

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jul 6, 2014
Messages
1,825
Reaction score
70
they clear it

lol didnt have to read the gauntlet

wait..hashi sm might be trouble
 

KidGamer65

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Aug 5, 2012
Messages
38,776
Reaction score
2,272
Why do you always argue characters starting off with their strongest techs? Alot of factors can happen before character rely on their strongest tech.

Yeah, without intel, but since Sasuke has intel on Kabuto's jutsu, and he knows that without a Legged Susanoo at the very least, he'll lose. So there is no reason why he won't use that, or even PS if he needed it.

But since a Legged Susanoo would cut it, PS doesn't need to be used.

And I've never stated that they start off with their strongest tech, I only state what will most likely happen, unless one opponent has a way to prevent the other character from using said tech, which doesn't apply to this case.
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
Yeah, without intel, but since Sasuke has intel on Kabuto's jutsu, and he knows that without a Legged Susanoo at the very least, he'll lose. So there is no reason why he won't use that, or even PS if he needed it.

But since a Legged Susanoo would cut it, PS doesn't need to be used.

Understandable.

And I've never stated that they start off with their strongest tech, I only state what will most likely happen, unless one opponent has a way to prevent the other character from using said tech, which doesn't apply to this case.

Your aren't factoring Madara's intel of EMS ability and the fact he has SM along with it.

For starters Madara should know of Sussanoo full capacity. Now added to the fact that that he has Sage Mode, he can easily predict Susanoo's movements, much like Hashirama.

Now skipping to Sasuke strongest tech, Madara can use Senpou mokuton to parry off PS[ ]. This will diffidently hold long enough to which Genjutsu can apply then.
 

KidGamer65

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Aug 5, 2012
Messages
38,776
Reaction score
2,272
Your aren't factoring Madara's intel of EMS ability and the fact he has SM along with it.

Don't see how his intel would change anything.

For starters Madara should know of Sussanoo full capacity. Now added to the fact that that he has Sage Mode, he can easily predict Susanoo's movements, much like Hashirama.
Yeah, he should be able to predict its movements, but he can't take it on.

Now skipping to Sasuke strongest tech, Madara can use Senpou mokuton to parry off PS[ ]. This will diffidently hold long enough to which Genjutsu can apply then.

If we are giving Madara all of Base Hashirama's feats, then sure, he can use a Sage Enhanced Mokujin and Mokuryu, but Sauske's Senjutsu enhanced Perfect Susanoo>>A normal Perfect Susanoo=Senpo Mokujin. So Mokujin wouldn't stand a chance of holding Sasuke back, and he'd be able to take out Kabuto.
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
If we are giving Madara all of Base Hashirama's feats, then sure, he can use a Sage Enhanced Mokujin and Mokuryu, but Sauske's Senjutsu enhanced Perfect Susanoo>>A normal Perfect Susanoo=Senpo Mokujin. So Mokujin wouldn't stand a chance of holding Sasuke back, and he'd be able to take out Kabuto.

The fact that Madara used a jutsu that Hashirama hasn't shown to use, thats his own, shouldn't be questionable that he is able to use it. We will also have to neglect Sharingan copy ability on top of it. Madara copied Hashirama's jutsu therefore he can perform any Mokuton he had witness, and use it using Hashirama's cells.

Sasuke senjutsu did not make a significant boost for legged Susanoo so I doubt for PS too (only was used to make his hits count on Juubito). The CM boost is no where compare to SM to begin with anyway[ ].
 

genii96

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 28, 2012
Messages
5,877
Reaction score
171
Madara dosent have hashirama's level moukton,or maybe even moukton anymore. He only got iy after kabut further enhanced his body with hashirama's cells. He lost all powers he had gotten as an edo after his death.
If he lost his rinnegan,he would loose his moujton too IMO

however neither of them have any seals to deal with edos,so they loose at 4 by default,if they have seals they stop at juubito.

Madara's PS and kabuto's moveset is deadly
 

KidGamer65

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Aug 5, 2012
Messages
38,776
Reaction score
2,272
The fact that Madara used a jutsu that Hashirama hasn't shown to use, thats his own, shouldn't be questionable that he is able to use it. We will also have to neglect Sharingan copy ability on top of it. Madara copied Hashirama's jutsu therefore he can perform any Mokuton he had witness, and use it using Hashirama's cells.

Ok.

Sasuke senjutsu did not make a significant boost for legged Susanoo so I doubt for PS too (only was used to make his hits count on Juubito). The CM boost is no where compare to SM to begin with anyway[ ].
Based on what?

Jugo doesn't use the Curse Mark, he uses pure Senjutsu, so it has the same boost.
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
Based on what?

Jugo doesn't use the Curse Mark, he uses pure Senjutsu, so it has the same boost.

The link I post of Kabuto interaction with Sasuke's statement. And manga feats of CS1 and CS2 compassion.

@Bold He uses Senjutsu but the way it reacts to his body isn't the same power as Sage Mode users. The context here also[ ] shows that his clan and other people call it differently. So its basically the samething
 

KidGamer65

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Aug 5, 2012
Messages
38,776
Reaction score
2,272
The link I post of Kabuto interaction with Sasuke's statement. And manga feats of CS1 and CS2 compassion.

How does that prove Senjutsu didn't give a boost to Sasuke's Susanoo? CS1 and CS2 are irrelevant since we aren't talking about the Curse Mark here, which is just Orochimaru's Senjutsu chakra powering the user. We are talking about Senjutsu that Jugo created from taking in Nature Energy, and then transferring it to Sasuke's Susanoo.



@Bold He uses Senjutsu but the way it reacts to his body isn't the same power as Sage Mode users. The context here also[ ] shows that his clan and other people call it differently. So its basically the samething

Yeah, it doesn't react to his body the same because he can't control it, but he is transferring it to Sasuke's Susanoo here. No reason why it wouldn't get a major boost, and its the same concept as Cursed Seal Transformation, but they aren't the same exact thing. Jugo uses Nature Energy to use his Senjutsu and transform. Orochimaru simply fuels the curse mark user's with a portion of his own Senjutsu chakra.
 

Brother Numpsay

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Sep 27, 2012
Messages
7,879
Reaction score
334
How does that prove Senjutsu didn't give a boost to Sasuke's Susanoo? CS1 and CS2 are irrelevant since we aren't talking about the Curse Mark here, which is just Orochimaru's Senjutsu chakra powering the user. We are talking about Senjutsu that Jugo created from taking in Nature Energy, and then transferring it to Sasuke's Susanoo.

Didn't say senjutsu didn't boost Sasuke Susanoo. I said significant boost compare to SM. How is CS1 and 2 irrelevant when its power comes from the curse mark?

Juugo's is use as the medium for CM to work[ ]. So there is no difference to what Juugo is transporting.



Yeah, it doesn't react to his body the same because he can't control it, but he is transferring it to Sasuke's Susanoo here. No reason why it wouldn't get a major boost, and its the same concept as Cursed Seal Transformation, but they aren't the same exact thing. Jugo uses Nature Energy to use his Senjutsu and transform. Orochimaru simply fuels the curse mark user's with a portion of his own Senjutsu chakra.

Same as above
 
Top