I'm not going after Hou because what I previously read as scummy was something he had done in the past, and I am pretty sure he was town there (I should probably confirm). Given that, I have to put certain things aside, like his insistence someone must be scum, because it's less indicative of him trying to setup mislynches, and more indiciative of him being bad at conveying his points, and overextending regardless of alignment. Now I could sit back and just push him and ignore what I've seen, but given the information I have there, I can't justify doing so.
Also, there are a few ways for town to circumnavigate Maschenny's blind vote this day phase. If you're townie, you have no reason to lie about your vote this phase, please remember that.
1) If you're town, hold off on switching your votes around a lot. This will make it noticeable when there IS movement on the vote count and easier to track.
2) We should continue to vote normally in this thread as well. I will keep a vote count in this thread and then we can compare any discrepancies between what the votes should be and what they actually are.
3) Ask Soul for VCs frequently, that way we can see if there is any movement on votes when there shouldn't be.
If we follow this for D3, we should be able to limit the damage not seeing who votes for whom. If scum choose to participate in shenanigans with their votes, we'll see something is off. For example, if Player A says they're voting for Player B and then the VC reveals that Player B has no votes, Player A would be lying and would need to be questioned about why they were lying, since townies have no reason to lie about their votes.
2) We should continue to vote normally in this thread as well. I will keep a vote count in this thread and then we can compare any discrepancies between what the votes should be and what they actually are.
-I see he started by commenting on each page, which if I remember well raised some suspicion from his fellow forum players. It doesn't feel much suspicious to me, just a bit strange that it's page per page.
-It is followed by some posts regarding a misunderstanding with Luke about some other member.
Not sure why he would take activity as a sign of Luke being town?
forgot to reply to this, some of luk's post seem like he could be mafia while his activity says that he is town, still unsure on him, michelle caught my eyes in the first few pages then she kinda went to sidelines same with poison, who was only defending and accusing X otherwise not much.
Didnt like beeboat and ryu's reads as they arent much explained.
ratchet and X are looking town though I could be wrong about them as they play pretty similar as both alignments. But I am liking their aggressiveness. others are null and need more.
Somewhere Ryu votes for him and Aether votes back
Then he has a heated exchange with bee - followed by Aether voting Bee- not sure what to make of this have to look into Bee later
Then him and Ryu have an interesting exchange where Ryu brings some of Aether's qoutes out followed by Aether voting Ryu again.
This is basically beeboat's problem which I already addressed, you can go and read if you havent. If that was your problem from the start, why didnt you specifically say that instead of being vague, because I've been asking you whats the specific reason for 3 or 4 post and now you decided to say that. Feels like you are trying to stall it for some reason, which town has no reason to do that i can think of.
This exchange is very interesting.
Personally what Ryu was doing didn't feel like stalling it was Dp1, not sure though how much left till end of day.
In a way I understand why Aether feels the need to defend himself since Ryu just voted for him without giving any reason initially so part of that defense is legit in my eyes.
But the way in which Aether's defense is executed is strange. It felt to me like he jumped to defend himself by throwing some scum back on Ryu.
An extensive iso folows on Poison, Michell and AL - I see some nice observations which feel authentic
Ok so this is the end of DP1 if I am right
You vote for Ryu, then bee then back to ryu and null [ even if you issued poison and she felt off to you from that iso you didn’t touch her, nor did you Al ] correct me if I am wrong or if I misunderstand that iso?
DP1: “Aether9 : Ryu Kishi > Beeboat >Ryu Kishi>null”
Overal conclusion for DP1
Feels you try to keep a relatively low profile while maintaining some interaction.
But then when Ryu jumps on you, you become kinda aggresive in my opinion
DP2
You vote for Kyte.
I noticed you made some remarks on Ansa - town leaned him and also some questions.
Side note: Not sure what to make of Ansa's wagon yesterday - i will look into his voters.
feel like my lynch has already been decided and here we have @osieorb18 who not just long had me in his strongest town read now have a place in his PoE seeing that I am a lynch candidate this phase. Sure good gameplay
. I can't remember what he flipped, but he very absolutionist against me then too (I was town) which has made me reconsider some of his posts that I thought were scummy, into NAI.
Which one? I have played 3 games there, Generic Mafia, one that where I was suspected for saying "hi town here" for the throughout the game or "King's Mafia"