[Game] SK-Tower Of God! The Great War!!! #28

[TheLukundo]

#20 is srs

 

[beeboat]

Didn't you earlier just say my exact prediction of this was TMI? Yet now you're saying it's standard. Reconcile this for me, please.

Maybe we understand the phrase multiball differently. She was declaring the game had a SK without really letting that impact her play, which isn't really an issue to me.

To me multiball is 2 scum teams, which is both uncommon and a weird thing to play around. Harms you more often then it would help. So by declaring multiball and letting that impact your reads it feels like TMI with an agenda. The post in question is just a throw away theory.

 

[Just_Red]

Oh youve gots to be kidding me

 

[Toujo]

#20 is srs

...you're teling me the post in which you are suspecting yourself of being scum is a serious post? Okay then...

 

[TheLukundo]

...you're teling me the post in which you are suspecting yourself of being scum is a serious post? Okay then...

As a spectator looking in on the game, unbiased. Yes. I’d suspect myself. If someone came in the thread at that point and voted me I’d have gotten why.

 

[TheLukundo]

Oh youve gots to be kidding me

Nope.

 

[AL_sama]

don't wanna sir, you are stubborn and implies too much effort

something a townie should say??

How come this is your towny thought Al? Explain

Mich ask yourself are you really scum hunting??

 

[Toujo]

Maybe we understand the phrase multiball differently. She was declaring the game had a SK without really letting that impact her play, which isn't really an issue to me.

To me multiball is 2 scum teams, which is both uncommon and a weird thing to play around. Harms you more often then it would help. So by declaring multiball and letting that impact your reads it feels like TMI with an agenda. The post in question is just a throw away theory.

No no no, that's not the discussion here. You claimed my projection was TMI, or potentially TMI. I'll need to refind the post and context it. But I never once said it would be influencing my reads. Aether, actually, was the one who came closest to that.

 

[Michelle]

This is asinine.

ok

Do you see how I specifically call them "early reads"? That is to say, they're quick fire things that I am in no way stuck on. Why are you pushing the idea that I'm somehow claiming that these reads are solid ones that have a lot of basis to them? I have repeatedly said in this thread that my reads are fluid and open to evolving. I need tyou to address this ASAP, because otherwise this is straight up BS.

i see you don't quote the all post. you missed the bottom part and that makes me think you want to build something on it. And that something looks suspicious for me. P#340

This is why I asked you for clarity. I'm also not sure what you mean by rushing?

i answered. Making fast reads without pondering on them.

the fact I am not voting for any of them is indicative of me not feeling particularly strong on any of my scum reads (or reads at all, actually). So your assertion that I must be looking for a quick lynch (this early in day 1, too...?) doesn't stand up to reason. So the issue here is that you're refusing to consider my behaviour, and instead you're jumping to conclusions that you want just to make it easier to address what I'm saying.

I still think your behaviour wasn't towny.

 

[Toujo]

As a spectator looking in on the game, unbiased. Yes. I’d suspect myself. If someone came in the thread at that point and voted me I’d have gotten why.

...but you're not a-

Nevermind. I understand your second part, and I think I get the point you're making. You felt like your play, at that stage, was objectively scummy, yes? Okay. I can concede then that is one of your serious posts.

 

[AL_sama]

@SoulKiller i hope you're happy enough now xD

 

[Michelle]

something a townie should say??

Mich ask yourself are you really scum hunting??

yes, i am lazy. Sue me.

And no, i am town hunting, i want to make my Poe by finding town first.

Are you scum hunting?

 

[TheLukundo]

...but you're not a-

Nevermind. I understand your second part, and I think I get the point you're making. You felt like your play, at that stage, was objectively scummy, yes? Okay. I can concede then that is one of your serious posts.

Ye.

 

[beeboat]

As a spectator looking in on the game, unbiased. Yes. I’d suspect myself. If someone came in the thread at that point and voted me I’d have gotten why.

Why?

 

[TheLukundo]

thread died...

 

[TheLukundo]

Why?

Me and Michelle felt like a scum theatre imo. It felt too easy flowing and the messing around felt forced from an outside perspective imo. I’m probably just bad at jokes or summat. :’(

 

[Toujo]

i see you don't quote the all post. you missed the bottom part and that makes me think you want to build something on it. And that something looks suspicious for me. P#340

I didn't quote the asterisk part because it wasn't really relevant to the point I'm making. My thought process there was that let's say you were scum, and Luk is town. You know Luk's meta, so you could be leading towards pocketing him by establishing criteria that would have you defend him, should he catch flak. It hasn't really gone that way, hence why I haven't revisited it, but in your case I'm trying to understand if the off vibes I'm getting is clashing playstyles or if your posts are actually scummy. In some parts it feels like the former, so I make efforts to bridge that gap, but you're completely unreciprocative of them, and then you have me repeating myself like below. Which is scummy.

i answered. Making fast reads without pondering on them.

Who says I haven't pondered them? Seriously, where are you getting this from? Everyone of those reads had some baseline, which for the most part I'd already discussed in thread as far as I can tell. Why do you keep drawing whatever conclusions you feel like from what I'm saying when I've repeatedly asked that you take my posts for what they're actually saying? If you think I'm just going to let you spin whatever narrative you feel like, I'm sorry, but it's not going to go that way.

I still think your behaviour wasn't towny.

An assertion you have failed to qualify. I'm starting to run out of patience Michelle. I'll ask you one more time. Take a step back, and look at what my posts are actually saying. Take your own conclusions from them aside a second, and see what point I'm trying to make. I am not going to keep defending your strawman arguments from my posts. If you want to actually bring up something relevant to what I'm saying, I'm all for it. But so far, we've had you insist -

me having more scum than town reads means I want to lynch rather than scumhunt (?)
you have declared you are not moving your vote (this early day 1... looks to me like your own logic can be applied to you...)
you have repeatedly deflected when I've asked for clarification on your assertions
you have declared my arguments to be illogical, and have failed to qualify this

I could go on, but I feel my point is made.

 

[beeboat]

Me and Michelle felt like a scum theatre imo. It felt too easy flowing and the messing around felt forced from an outside perspective imo. I’m probably just bad at jokes or summat. :’(

PepeRip
What's your michelle read right now I am having trouble reading her this game myself.

 

[XTMF]

Instead, thinking from this premise do you think scum would go and just claim randomly that this player is scum? Wouldn't that be too risky play when you're trying to leave a positive impression in the game thread? Where's the fun if you can just throw random shades as scum with nothing to back up.

To be honest, I'm not a huge fan of the argument WWSD (what would scum do) because I've seen scum play in many different ways. I feel like it's a dangerous mindset where you start justifying what scum wouldn't or couldn't do. The reality is scum can do everything and anything at any given time just like town.

 

[TheLukundo]

PepeRip
What's your michelle read right now I am having trouble reading her this game myself.

Town. I feel the fact she explained her read and the fact that IK her read works makes her better but also the fact that she’s not backing away from it. She seems like she has nothing to back away from. “Yeah that’s my read. You don’t like it? You don’t like how it’s formed? Ah well, tough shit”