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Check out my post above with my man Styles!..

The Mazou is a summoning of the outer path just like Naraka' Hell realm.. It's still six paths otherwise some1 other than Konan who don't really know much would've said there's a seventh path.. It's not there my man..

The Mazou is a summoning of the outer path only, and Naraka's path summoning is King of Hell.
There is 7 paths, just re-read what Konan said
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I think you're missing one point Six Paths = Rikudō, "Six Paths" isn't always refering to Rinnegan 6 Paths we're talking about -

Outer Path is the Rinnegan user itself and it's 7th path. Rinnegan grants you those 6 paths(6 Realms of rebirth from Buddhism) and by having Rinnegan you're becoming the 7th path - Outer Path.
 

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Jutsu=ninjutsu, taijutsu, genjutsu. Gakido is not a jutsu, it is an ability. Not that it matters.

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''This Jutsu...'' Arguing with you is becoming a waste of time.

I'm highly literate, but apparently you're blind if you think madara had trouble absorbing the rasenshuriken. He was completely unphased. Furthermore, we've never seen his absorption fail. Ever. Nice try, but your "proof" is flimsy.

You and I both know you're not as literate as you think you are. Why would Madara say ''too much energy'' just after absorbing Rasenshuriken, Mr. literate?

Madara didn't absorb the Amaterasu he took off his armor. Unless the manga differs from the anime.

''He can absorb Ninjutsu!'' - Hashirama's words. But you have reading issues, I can see that.

What's pitiful is you clinging to the DB like it's some gospel. It's not the same as source material. It is a good reference in certain cases, but "pain" being the only user of gakido is laughable. If I had to guess, the information was just never updated.

You sound like, ''don't reference the databook because it hurts my feelings''. Proof works either by referencing something academic or official, and the databook is official because it's written by the author himself. The page I posted in the spoiler says only Pain can use Gakido, and databook IV goes all the way up to Naruto The Last, in which it states the sole user of Six Paths of Pain Jutsu is Nagato. The information was updated, but you fanboys somehow think you know more about characters than Kishimoto himself.
 

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Yet completely ignore him not showing anything when absorbing Bee's chakra. And having a chakra shroud around him same as Sasuke when he absorbed Naruto's chakra. :lol


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The white sphere is covering Nagato, so I'm not sure what you're on about. Sasuke and Madara weren't shown with it.

Except it isn't. FRS is just hella dense that's why. Dude absorbed something stronger than that like a few chapters later.

Except it is, by Madara's own words which hold more value than your worthless thoughts.

Never changed anything. @Bold That's stupid af if you awaken Rinnegan you're the original user. Original users = exclusive abilities Sasuke = Ameno Madara = limbo. Nagato who have Madara's Rinnegan couldn't even use it to it's full potential.

You changed your argument to something else, and you conceded that ET Madara's fake Rinnegan didn't reduce his absorption. Only Hagoromo is the original wielder, lol. Original means the 1st to have existed, and Rinnegan existed with Hagoromo; Madara needs Hashirama to be able to produce Hagoromo's Chakra, to then awaken the Rinnegan, meaning he's not the original wielder. Neither is Sasuke since Hagoromo gave it to him. So that means neither Nagato, Madara or Sasuke can use Rinnegan's true power but only Hagoromo can, because it's his.


You just posted the very scan that destroys your argument. :lol

''He (Nagato) who possess the Rinnegan is capable of utilizing all 7 different powers''

''Used only by Nagato, the main entity in control of Pain, its powers transcend even the very concept of life and death!''

You post DB entry pages without reading them, and you make yourself look like an illiterate ass. Read before you post something.
 

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''This Jutsu...'' Arguing with you is becoming a waste of time.



You and I both know you're not as literate as you think you are. Why would Madara say ''too much energy'' just after absorbing Rasenshuriken, Mr. literate?



''He can absorb Ninjutsu!'' - Hashirama's words. But you have reading issues, I can see that.



You sound like, ''don't reference the databook because it hurts my feelings''. Proof works either by referencing something academic or official, and the databook is official because it's written by the author himself. The page I posted in the spoiler says only Pain can use Gakido, and databook IV goes all the way up to Naruto The Last, in which it states the sole user of Six Paths of Pain Jutsu is Nagato. The information was updated, but you fanboys somehow think you know more about characters than Kishimoto himself.

You're right, this is a waste of time. You don't seem to factor logic into anything you say. The only thing arguments like yours are good for is trolling people, and everyone here knows that.
 

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The white sphere is covering Nagato, so I'm not sure what you're on about. Sasuke and Madara weren't shown with it.



Except it is, by Madara's own words which hold more value than your worthless thoughts.



You changed your argument to something else, and you conceded that ET Madara's fake Rinnegan didn't reduce his absorption. Only Hagoromo is the original wielder, lol. Original means the 1st to have existed, and Rinnegan existed with Hagoromo; Madara needs Hashirama to be able to produce Hagoromo's Chakra, to then awaken the Rinnegan, meaning he's not the original wielder. Neither is Sasuke since Hagoromo gave it to him. So that means neither Nagato, Madara or Sasuke can use Rinnegan's true power but only Hagoromo can, because it's his.



You just posted the very scan that destroys your argument. :lol

''He (Nagato) who possess the Rinnegan is capable of utilizing all 7 different powers''

''Used only by Nagato, the main entity in control of Pain, its powers transcend even the very concept of life and death!''

You post DB entry pages without reading them, and you make yourself look like an illiterate ass. Read before you post something.

There is nothing around Nagato in that scan. And preta always have a chakra shroud around them when used.

Wrong.

Wrong.

Are you dumb? It say that because he was the only one with Rinnegan at that time. But i see you forget how it say anyone with Rinnegan have those abilities and Karin stating it too. But then again you're either trolling or being a full blown idiot.
 

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You made some mistakes.

-Madara and Sasuke didn't use Preta Path, and they can't use the 6 Paths. What they used is stated to be a Rinnegan power, but not explicitly stated Gakido.

-Naraka Path is the power to heal all wounds, including limbs.

Sasuke and Madara can't use Jutsu's that are named after Nagato himself, meaning they can't use any of Nagato's Jutsu's. What they have are techniques for themselves; Sasuke has teleportation and Genjutsu and Madara has Limbo and Tengai Shensei. Just as in a sense Nagato can't use their techniques. This is how the manga portrayed it.

No. Just because they didn't specifically say the words "preta path" doesn't mean that it wasn't. In fact when Madara did it, it produced the exact same barrier as when Nagato did it.

Also, chibaku tensei is listed by the data book as being a part of Deva path.

Madara also used black rods and rinne tensei which are both outer path jutsus.

This alone proves that Madara and Sasuke could use the paths.

Also, your logic would make no sense: How would it be that Nagato can use techniques with Madara's eyes that Madara himself can't achieve? Why would a borrowed rinnegan user get more powers than two people who actually awakened the rinnegan?
 

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You're right, this is a waste of time. You don't seem to factor logic into anything you say. The only thing arguments like yours are good for is trolling people, and everyone here knows that.

Neg reping me doesn't change that you lost in the debate. Concession accepted.
 

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There is nothing around Nagato in that scan. And preta always have a chakra shroud around them when used.

Jesus...There is literally a white background around Nagato in the panel I posted to you. Go get your eyes examined, you muppet. Phucking hell.


Concession accepted.


Concession accepted.

Are you dumb? It say that because he was the only one with Rinnegan at that time. But i see you forget how it say anyone with Rinnegan have those abilities and Karin stating it too. But then again you're either trolling or being a full blown idiot.

You've likely failed at school. Clearly. The databook entry doesn't talk about a timeline, because it would have changed the wordings to describe all Rinnegan users instead of one.

''He who possess the Rinnegan is capable of utilizing all 7 different powers'' - He is a pronoun and refers to one person; if the databook, according to your silly fanfics, says all Rinnegan users get 6 Paths, then the sentence would be like this, ''Whoever possess the Rinnegan is capable of utilizing all 7 different powers'' or Rinnegan wielders are capable of utilizing all 7 different powers''. The difference between the wording is, ''he'' means one (Nagato) and ''whoever'' can refer to generally anyone with a Rinnegan, whether before Nagato (Madara) or after (Sasuke). I can guess you're gonna say Kishi must have got his grammar wrong, then. Honestly, kid, if you don't review what you write then you're genuinely stupid.
 

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No. Just because they didn't specifically say the words "preta path" doesn't mean that it wasn't. In fact when Madara did it, it produced the exact same barrier as when Nagato did it.

Addressed. Read to what I said to DiamondxDust.

Also, chibaku tensei is listed by the data book as being a part of Deva path.

Don't know what fanfic databook you've read, but the real databook IV lists Chibaku Tensei as a sealing Jutsu of its own, with a separate page from Rinnegan technqieus. It has no relations with Tendou. Chibaku Tensei is a sealing technique of those with the power of the Six Paths. Tendou's power is only Shinra Tensei and Banshon Ten'n.

Madara also used black rods and rinne tensei which are both outer path jutsus.

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This alone proves that Madara and Sasuke could use the paths.

Not according to Kishimoto.

Also, your logic would make no sense: How would it be that Nagato can use techniques with Madara's eyes that Madara himself can't achieve? Why would a borrowed rinnegan user get more powers than two people who actually awakened the rinnegan?

All of what you're asking had been addressed. Go read the pages before and save me the trouble of replying to you.
 

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Neg reping me doesn't change that you lost in the debate. Concession accepted.

You just had such a nice collection of neg rep there, I couldn't help but give you some more.
 

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Sasuke's Path feats:

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Gakido is not a jutsu? What do you the Six Paths Jutsu are? Gakido is not a Jutsu, according to you, but it's named Jutsu with 5 other ones, specifically named after Nagato? Gakido is a Jutsu, and I know that it means Preta in Japanese. I think you have an issue with what is an ability and what is a Jutsu.

Rinnegan is stated to naturally give the wielder the ability to absorb Chakra/Ninjutsu, that it's an ability and not a Jutsu, according to Sasuke and Madara. Gakido is a Jutsu that absorbs Chakra/Ninjutsu, and it's a Jutsu named after Nagato himself. This is how the databook sees it. [ ] Madara/Sasuke absorbing Chakra with Rinnegan /=/ Gakido, a Jutsu Nagato uses to absorb; why is that? Because for the following:

-Sasuke/Madara shown limit to how much they can absorb; Nagato doesn't.
-Sasuke/Madara aren't shown with a barrier; Nagato is shown with a barrier.
-Sasuke/Madara say their absorption ability is from the Rinnegan; databook says only Nagato can use Gakido.




Madara activates Rinnegan to absorb Rasenshuriken, then says ''too much'' after absorbing the said Jutsu, implying what, genius? Rasenshuriken was too much to absorb. Lol. It isn't English literature for Christ sake. It's not open for interpretations. It means Rasenshuriken is the maximum Jutsu he can absorb, anything beyond it and he can't. Simple as that.

Lol, Amatersu and Susanoo being advanced Jutsu's doesn't mean they are the reason they couldn't use it simultaneously. It means absorption ability has a limit, Gakido doesn't. Simple as that. So from a manga point of view, it doesn't matter what you think makes sense.

-Nagato absorbed Kyubi Chakra Mode, which is shown to have the same properties as Mokuton, meaning he could also absorb Mokuton. [ ]

-Blind Madara absorbed Amatersu. [ ] You're not well acknowledged of your favorite character after all.

-Databook is an official reference like the manga, since it's written by the author. Saying it's ''horrible'' because it doesn't appeal to your feelings is pitiful.

Madara didn't absorb amaterasu , he dropped the armour which amaterasu caught on .
 

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The Mazou is a summoning of the outer path only, and Naraka's path summoning is King of Hell.
There is 7 paths, just re-read what Konan said
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I think you're missing one point Six Paths = Rikudō, "Six Paths" isn't always refering to Rinnegan 6 Paths we're talking about -

Outer Path is the Rinnegan user itself and it's 7th path. Rinnegan grants you those 6 paths(6 Realms of rebirth from Buddhism) and by having Rinnegan you're becoming the 7th path - Outer Path.

Naraka & Deva have two abilities connected to them..

Deva has Push/Pull & Naraka or Outter path can summon the mazou or Hell's real,King of Hell

If we were to separate theses abilities then we would be calling the Sage by a different name.. SO6P is the story, there is no 7th path.. Saying that would be going against Hogo Madara Zetsu Kaguya an the series..

I used Nagato as a example because he used all paths & was called by Obito who was taught by Madara who was taught by Zetsu the third wielder to control the six paths..

The gedo mazou & hell's realm are connected to the Outter path or Naraka path they're one in the same..
Agreeing with 7 paths because of Konon doesn't hold to the actual wielders of the doujutsu an the series that calls it six paths..

six paths=Rinnegan that's it. Nagato,Madara,Sasuke & Obito had this..
Six paths senjutsu is just NE. Madara,Obito,Naruto because they were Sage or JJ..

Hagoromo has both of them an he's called the SO6P not 7 or the Outter Path because of his Rinne...
 

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Naraka & Deva have two abilities connected to them..

Deva has Push/Pull & Naraka or Outter path can summon the mazou or Hell's real,King of Hell

If we were to separate theses abilities then we would be calling the Sage by a different name.. SO6P is the story, there is no 7th path.. Saying that would be going against Hogo Madara Zetsu Kaguya an the series..

I used Nagato as a example because he used all paths & was called by Obito who was taught by Madara who was taught by Zetsu the third wielder to control the six paths..

The gedo mazou & hell's realm are connected to the Outter path or Naraka path they're one in the same..
Agreeing with 7 paths because of Konon doesn't hold to the actual wielders of the doujutsu an the series that calls it six paths..

six paths=Rinnegan that's it. Nagato,Madara,Sasuke & Obito had this..
Six paths senjutsu is just NE. Madara,Obito,Naruto because they were Sage or JJ..

Hagoromo has both of them an he's called the SO6P not 7 or the Outter Path because of his Rinne...

No they doesn't, all paths have different and separate powers. The only connection is that Outer Path's ability to revive the dead can be used in conjunction with Naraka's Path summoning - King of Hell.

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I don't know if you're trolling because you're literally denying something that's in the manga
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Anyways, he was sage of 6 paths, because he couldn't mastered the 7th path. Already explained it to you, that outer path was different from the others(heretical in Buddhism)
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All creatures are consequently trapped within this cycle of endless rebirth (and consequently endless suffering), with no escape. The goal of Buddhism and the Tathagatha Buddha, however, is to free people from this cycle by allowing them to see the reality of existence, freeing them from the "red dust" illusion that blinds people to their endless cycle, and allowing them to achieve the state of true immortality and true nirvana.

But there are others who also aware of this cycle, but who cannot or do not accept Buddhist wisdom, and who try to defeat the cycle by using heretical (and often evil) powers that can theoretically keep them alive, so that they can continue to have power within the Six Paths. Think immortal vampires sucking the blood of others, Voldemort splitting his soul into many pieces, evil wizards sacrificing virgins for power, or, in the manga, Orochimaru stealing the bodies of others and turning himself into a snake-hybrid. These people have, in a sense, "overcome" life and death, but they have not really escaped the cycle of suffering and rebirth, nor have they seen the truth of reality and awakened to wisdom.

Thus, those people are often referred to as treading the "Outer Path" to immortality (with the 'Outer' having heretical connotations), as opposed to orthodox Buddhism, which treads the "Inner Path" to enlightenment. It can be said, then, that while a being of the Outer Path can become all-powerful and freely TRAVERSE the Six Realms (for a time), only a being who follows the Inner Path can TRANSCEND it and achieve nirvana. Nothing which remains within the Six Realms can escape it forever; not even the mightiest 'immortals' of the Outer Path.

In this (shounen) manga, nirvana has been simplified as 'peace', and the cycle of suffering has been simplified as 'hate'. Of the Rikudo's, Nagato is a prime example of someone who was unable to accept the 'Inner Path' of peace, and instead turned to the 'Outer Path' to achieve his goals of escape suffering and hate, bringing the dead back through his power over the Hell Realm, and even summoning evil creatures such as the Heretical Demon Statue (which once was the ultimate all-powerful creature of the Outer Path, the Jyuubi), with the goal of terrifying the world into peace. Tobi/Madara, as well, are creatures of the Outer Path, wanting to use the Jyuubi and the Infinite Tsukyumoni to bring an end to conflict and suffering in the world. But these types of power and these sorts of peace are only illusory lies, and must fade in time; only by transcending the Six Realms through the Inner Path of orthodox Buddhism (ie, peace) can suffering truly be done away with for good.

In my opinion, the manga portrays the original Rikudo, the first Sage of the Six Paths as someone who was searching for, but unable to achieve, that goal of reaching nirvana/peace; the Sage had come to see through the Six Paths of Suffering, and although he was unable to master the Inner Path and achieve true enlightnment/peace, he rejected the 'Outer Path' and indeed, overcame Jyuubi, the ultimate expression of the 'Outer Path' before his death. But since he did not truly master the Inner Path, he did not achieve nirvana, nor did he bring peace to the world; consequently, he would be, once again, reborn into the mortal realm. And as who? Well, from the way Kurama and the other bijuu acted, as Naruto!
If you still don't understand after reading this im giving up.
 

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No they doesn't, all paths have different and separate powers. The only connection is that Outer Path's ability to revive the dead can be used in conjunction with Naraka's Path summoning - King of Hell.

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I don't know if you're trolling because you're literally denying something that's in the manga
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Anyways, he was sage of 6 paths, because he couldn't mastered the 7th path. Already explained it to you, that outer path was different from the others(heretical in Buddhism)
Here's more in-depth explanation :
If you still don't understand after reading this im giving up.

Dude the story doesn't call for a 7th path & it wouldn't be called six paths if there's a 7th..

Take Nagato's path corpses out of the picture.. He's just one guy with six paths using corpses to use the paths, they are connected not 7 for the outer path..

I don't really know how to break it down any further than this.. It's SO6P not SO7P.. If that were the case then Hago would be the Outer path like your call Nagato.. I won't go against the series because of a misunderstanding from fans..

I'm not trolling bro it's just that the series isn't going with 7paths because a few characters who explains it mechanics don't understand the Rinne fully..
It's 6paths as of the story..

The series tells us this.. Not wiki fan made stats
 

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Dude the story doesn't call for a 7th path & it wouldn't be called six paths if there's a 7th..

Take Nagato's path corpses out of the picture.. He's just one guy with six paths using corpses to use the paths, they are connected not 7 for the outer path..

I don't really know how to break it down any further than this.. It's SO6P not SO7P.. If that were the case then Hago would be the Outer path like your call Nagato.. I won't go against the series because of a misunderstanding from fans..

I'm not trolling bro it's just that the series isn't going with 7paths because a few characters who explains it mechanics don't understand the Rinne fully..
It's 6paths as of the story..

The series tells us this.. Not wiki fan made stats

Do you even read my posts? Your only argument is that Hago is called sage of six paths instead of seven, but I already explained why.

Nagato was controlling 6 corpses(6 pains = 6 paths) with the 7th path - Outer Path, you're denying manga again.
 
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