Six Paths!..

[Edogawa]

Same thing was around Sasuke's hand and Madara's feet yet your logic it's not preta. And no that wasn't no barrier that was Naruto's Senjutsu being sucked out. But keep denying.

Madara and Sasuke weren't shown with sphere like Pain was, each time absorbing Jutsu.

Saying too much energy don't mean a FRS is it's limit dude.

Madara activates Rinnegan to absorb Rasenshuriken, then says ''too much'' after absorbing the said Jutsu, implying what? Rasenshuriken was too much to absorb. Lol. It isn't English literature for Christ sake. It's not open for interpretations. It means Rasenshuriken is the maximum Jutsu he can absorb, anything beyond it and he can't. Simple as that.

Nagato with a fake Rinnegan couldn't even use the Rinnegan's full power compared to the original his power paled in comparison.

You attributed Edo Madara's limit of absorbing Rasenshuriken was due to his fake ET Rinnegan, and I brought Nagato as an example and now you switched your point to something else. Be consistent with what you say. Btw, only Hagoromo is the original Rinnegan wielder, the rest aren't.

Selective reading at it's finest.

It's not.

Kurama assumed? Same bs you're doing now when the manga and databook proves you wrong. Rinnegan = six paths. All users get six paths. Nagato who is using Madara's Rinnegan hage six paths yet for some reason by your logic Madara don't have it. You know how dumb you sound?

Manga and databook don't disprove what I said. Databook says only Nagato is a user of Shinra Tensei and rest of Six Paths; makes no mention of Madara and Sasuke. Manga states Six Paths Jutsu's are named after Nagato himself, yet you stupidly think Madara and Sasuke can use something Jutsu's named after Nagato himself. Like I said, stop whining about something that doesn't appeal to your feelings.

 

[DiamondxDust]

Gakido is not a jutsu? What do you the Six Paths Jutsu are? Gakido is not a Jutsu, according to you, but it's named Jutsu with 5 other ones, specifically named after Nagato? Gakido is a Jutsu, and I know that it means Preta in Japanese. I think you have an issue with what is an ability and what is a Jutsu.


Rinnegan is stated to naturally give the wielder the ability to absorb Chakra/Ninjutsu, that it's an ability and not a Jutsu, according to Sasuke and Madara. Gakido is a Jutsu that absorbs Chakra/Ninjutsu, and it's a Jutsu named after Nagato himself. This is how the databook sees it. [

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] Madara/Sasuke absorbing Chakra with Rinnegan /=/ Gakido, a Jutsu Nagato uses to absorb; why is that? Because for the following:

-Sasuke/Madara shown limit to how much they can absorb; Nagato doesn't.
-Sasuke/Madara aren't shown with a barrier; Nagato is shown with a barrier.
-Sasuke/Madara say their absorption ability is from the Rinnegan; databook says only Nagato can use Gakido.

Madara activates Rinnegan to absorb Rasenshuriken, then says ''too much'' after absorbing the said Jutsu, implying what, genius? Rasenshuriken was too much to absorb. Lol. It isn't English literature for Christ sake. It's not open for interpretations. It means Rasenshuriken is the maximum Jutsu he can absorb, anything beyond it and he can't. Simple as that.


Lol, Amatersu and Susanoo being advanced Jutsu's doesn't mean they are the reason they couldn't use it simultaneously. It means absorption ability has a limit, Gakido doesn't. Simple as that. So from a manga point of view, it doesn't matter what you think makes sense.

-Nagato absorbed Kyubi Chakra Mode, which is shown to have the same properties as Mokuton, meaning he could also absorb Mokuton. [

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-Blind Madara absorbed Amatersu. [

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] You're not well acknowledged of your favorite character after all.

-Databook is an official reference like the manga, since it's written by the author. Saying it's ''horrible'' because it doesn't appeal to your feelings is pitiful.

Jutsu=ninjutsu, taijutsu, genjutsu. Gakido is not a jutsu, it is an ability. Not that it matters.

I'm highly literate, but apparently you're blind if you think madara had trouble absorbing the rasenshuriken. He was completely unphased. Furthermore, we've never seen his absorption fail. Ever. Nice try, but your "proof" is flimsy.

Madara didn't absorb the Amaterasu he took off his armor. Unless the manga differs from the anime.

What's pitiful is you clinging to the DB like it's some gospel. It's not the same as source material. It is a good reference in certain cases, but "pain" being the only user of gakido is laughable. If I had to guess, the information was just never updated.

 

[SeveN797]

As already mentioned, despite it's name there's actually 7 paths. Nagato was the only one allowed to utilize all paths, because that was just his purpose, to showcase a Rinnegan. Also this doujutsu was his only power, later on all next Rinnegan users were Uchiha's with MS or EMS, allowing Obito/Madara/Sasuke to use all Rinnegan powers along with their other powers (Sharingan/MS/EMS/hashi cells/mokuton) would be too much for anyone to handle.

 

[Chikombo]

There are a few things you got wrong:

-the outer path is completely separate from the naraka path. Outer path includes rinne rebirth, and gedo mazo
-Madara used deva path when he used chibaku tensei, chibaku tensei is deva path
-Madara used outer path when he used Gedo Mazo
-Sasuke used chibaku tensei in the manga (i'm assuming) so he has used deva as well.

Your sig is great.

 

[DiamondxDust]

Your sig is great.

I love it too haha

 

[The Messiah]

I love it too haha

Madara solos.

 

[00Rinne]

Nah they're separate, but Naraka is used through Outer Path



The day that happens is the day he's facing someone stronger than JJ Madara, so never

:lol Still at this.



Yes but Nagato iirc was outer konan called him the 7th pain.

This is the Naraka path/Hell's realm..

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Saying that Nagato is this paths makes no sense because Nagato is all the paths, Nagato/Pein.. (The source path Pein or the 7th path of Pein)

Nagato used the Naraka on his death bed (Same as the outer path Pein corpse) but he is not the Naraka Path but the Rinnegan itself..

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There is no 7 Pein or path per-se but Nagato is the final path because he's the source Pein path..

It's called six paths not 7..

 

[FuriouslAngel]

Sasuke solos

 

[00Rinne]

Nah they're separate, but Naraka is used through Outer Path



The day that happens is the day he's facing someone stronger than JJ Madara, so never

As already mentioned, despite it's name there's actually 7 paths. Nagato was the only one allowed to utilize all paths, because that was just his purpose, to showcase a Rinnegan. Also this doujutsu was his only power, later on all next Rinnegan users were Uchiha's with MS or EMS, allowing Obito/Madara/Sasuke to use all Rinnegan powers along with their other powers (Sharingan/MS/EMS/hashi cells/mokuton) would be too much for anyone to handle.

I agree with most of this but Nagato is a Uzumaki pure blood with far greater Chakra Reserves than the Uchiha.. It's why he was able to utilize it the way he did, an had ample time to train with it..
Madara gave him the eye for that reason cause he could handle it to a top tier extent..

 

[SeveN797]

This is the Naraka path/Hell's realm..

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Saying that Nagato is this paths makes no sense because Nagato is all the paths, Nagato/Pein.. (The source path Pein or the 7th path of Pein)

Nagato used the Naraka on his death bed (Same as the outer path Pein corpse) but he is not the Naraka Path but the Rinnegan itself..

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There is no 7 Pein or path per-se but Nagato is the final path because he's the source Pein path..

It's called six paths not 7..

Rinnegan's six paths are based upon the six Buddhist Paths of Reincarnation

Based upon the six Buddhist Paths of Reincarnation, each technique was named after one of the different "Paths": Deva, Asura, Human, Animal, Preta, and Naraka. Each of these Paths, or realms, represents one of the realms a being is reborn into after death, determined by the accumulated karma of their past lives. While the two lower Paths, Preta and Naraka, are hellish, and the two higher Paths, Deva and Asura, are heavenly, all six are considered to be Paths of suffering because they perpetuate the cycle of Reincarnation; the only way to break it and ascend to a higher state of existence is to attain enlightenment.

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- scroll down to "Realms of rebirth"

Outer Path is the 7th path

Gedō (外道, Literally meaning: Outer Path), derived from the Sanskrit term,

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which refers to any doctrine which "treads the outer path" to enlightenment. This is opposed to the teachings of orthodox Buddhism, the Naidō (内道, Literally meaning: Inner Path), and is thus considered misguided and heretical.

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I agree with most of this but Nagato is a Uzumaki pure blood with far greater Chakra Reserves than the Uchiha.. It's why he was able to utilize it the way he did, an had ample time to train with it..
Madara gave him the eye for that reason cause he could handle it to a top tier extent..

It makes no sense, Nagato was bleeding after making 1 CT, Madara casually made a CT rain(juubi jin chakra reserves) and Sasuke made 9. I don't know as for Rinnegan Sasuke, but Juubi Jin Madara obviously had bigger reserves.

 

[00Rinne]

Rinnegan's six paths are based upon the six Buddhist Paths of Reincarnation

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Outer Path is the 7th path

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It makes no sense, Nagato was bleeding after making 1 CT, Madara casually made a CT rain(juubi jin chakra reserves) and Sasuke made 9. I don't know as for Rinnegan Sasuke, but Juubi Jin Madara obviously had bigger reserves.

Nagato cant handle the Rinne like a edo & edo senjutsu user or a JJ.. On Sasuke though, He had Hashiroids which is why he was able to pull off what he did.. That pushed his Chakra Reserves way over Nagato's pure Uzumaki blood.. Madara gave Nagato the Rinne cause he could handle the power.. If not then he would've given it to a Uchiha of that era..

No1 in the series has called it 7 paths or 7 paths senjutsu..

 

[SeveN797]

No1 in the series has called it 7 paths or 7 paths senjutsu..

That's because it's not really an "offensive" path, but rather it has ability control the rest of the paths, that's why Konan called him 7th Pain, because Nagato was controlling his 6 pains (paths) through the 7th path - Outer Path.

 

[00Rinne]

That's because it's not really an "offensive" path, but rather it has ability control the rest of the paths, that's why Konan called him 7th Pain, because Nagato was controlling his 6 pains (paths) through the 7th path - Outer Path.

Without Nagato the path corpses aren't there..

Nagato's edo form proved that he could use all six paths on his own.. 7paths aren't mentioned by the SO6P's who is the Original Rinne wielder..

 

[Styles]

This is the Naraka path/Hell's realm..

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Saying that Nagato is this paths makes no sense because Nagato is all the paths, Nagato/Pein.. (The source path Pein or the 7th path of Pein)

Nagato used the Naraka on his death bed (Same as the outer path Pein corpse) but he is not the Naraka Path but the Rinnegan itself..

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There is no 7 Pein or path per-se but Nagato is the final path because he's the source Pein path..

It's called six paths not 7..

There are 7 paths. The 7th is control over life and death and for 10 tails aka gedo statue. Konan even said Nagato is the 7th pain along the other six.

I agree with most of this but Nagato is a Uzumaki pure blood with far greater Chakra Reserves than the Uchiha.. It's why he was able to utilize it the way he did, an had ample time to train with it..
Madara gave him the eye for that reason cause he could handle it to a top tier extent..

Nagato was Senju lineage that's why he was able to use Rinnegan so long and why Madara gave him his Rinnegan. His Uzumaki life force just didn't let it drain him like Obito.

 

[00Rinne]

There are 7 paths. The 7th is control over life and death and for 10 tails aka gedo statue. Konan even said Nagato is the 7th pain along the other six.



Nagato was Senju lineage that's why he was able to use Rinnegan so long and why Madara gave him his Rinnegan. His Uzumaki life force just didn't let it drain him like Obito.

Edo Nagato debunks the 7 paths by using all the paths on his own.. The corpses where just medians being used through the source, the 7'th path isn't there..
It goes against the series.. Sage of Six Paths is the theme so 7paths is not following the script.. I don't remember any1 using 7paths senjutsu in this forum because it's not what the series says..

I Use Uzumaki because it's better to understand an it's his name.. If I say Senju, then I might as well say Otsutsuki because it's all the same.

 

[Styles]

Madara and Sasuke weren't shown with sphere like Pain was, each time absorbing Jutsu.



Madara activates Rinnegan to absorb Rasenshuriken, then says ''too much'' after absorbing the said Jutsu, implying what? Rasenshuriken was too much to absorb. Lol. It isn't English literature for Christ sake. It's not open for interpretations. It means Rasenshuriken is the maximum Jutsu he can absorb, anything beyond it and he can't. Simple as that.



You attributed Edo Madara's limit of absorbing Rasenshuriken was due to his fake ET Rinnegan, and I brought Nagato as an example and now you switched your point to something else. Be consistent with what you say. Btw, only Hagoromo is the original Rinnegan wielder, the rest aren't.



It's not.




Manga and databook don't disprove what I said. Databook says only Nagato is a user of Shinra Tensei and rest of Six Paths; makes no mention of Madara and Sasuke. Manga states Six Paths Jutsu's are named after Nagato himself, yet you stupidly think Madara and Sasuke can use something Jutsu's named after Nagato himself. Like I said, stop whining about something that doesn't appeal to your feelings.

Yet completely ignore him not showing anything when absorbing Bee's chakra. And having a chakra shroud around him same as Sasuke when he absorbed Naruto's chakra. :lol

Except it isn't. FRS is just hella dense that's why. Dude absorbed something stronger than that like a few chapters later.

Never changed anything. @Bold That's stupid af if you awaken Rinnegan you're the original user. Original users = exclusive abilities Sasuke = Ameno Madara = limbo. Nagato who have Madara's Rinnegan couldn't even use it to it's full potential.

Nah.

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Edo Nagato debunks the 7 paths by using all the paths on his own.. The corpses where just medians being used through the source, the 7'th path isn't there..
It goes against the series.. Sage of Six Paths is the theme so 7paths is not following the script.. I don't remember any1 using 7paths senjutsu in this forum because it's not what the series says..

I Use Uzumaki because it's better to understand an it's his name.. If I say Senju, then I might as well say Otsutsuki because it's all the same.

Not really. Six paths are basic abilities from the Rinnegan. Outer path is a special ability which let you summon and control the Mazo create chakra rods chakra chains etc.

 

[00Rinne]

Yet completely ignore him not showing anything when absorbing Bee's chakra. And having a chakra shroud around him same as Sasuke when he absorbed Naruto's chakra. :lol

Except it isn't. FRS is just hella dense that's why. Dude absorbed something stronger than that like a few chapters later.

Never changed anything. @Bold That's stupid af if you awaken Rinnegan you're the original user. Original users = exclusive abilities Sasuke = Ameno Madara = limbo. Nagato who have Madara's Rinnegan couldn't even use it to it's full potential.

Nah.

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Not really. Six paths are basic abilities from the Rinnegan. Outer path is a special ability which let you summon and control the Mazo create chakra rods chakra chains etc.

The Mazou is just a summoning part of the outer path just like Naraka's Hell realm.. The outer path gives more than one ability which is why it's called six paths..

 

[SeveN797]

Without Nagato the path corpses aren't there..

Nagato's edo form proved that he could use all six paths on his own.. 7paths aren't mentioned by the SO6P's who is the Original Rinne wielder..

Im not sure if I understand what you mean, yes Nagato could always use all paths on his own, even when he was alive but his legs were crippled back then, so he was controlling 6 bodies(through the outer path) and was using Rinnegan powers through them instead.

7paths aren't mentioned by the SO6P's who is the Original Rinne wielder..

I know, maybe Kishi created it later, since original 6 paths are based on Buddhist Paths of Reincarnation and Outer Path is something else

Gedō (外道, Literally meaning: Outer Path), derived from the Sanskrit term,

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which refers to any doctrine which "treads the outer path" to enlightenment. This is opposed to the teachings of orthodox Buddhism, the Naidō (内道, Literally meaning: Inner Path), and is thus considered misguided and heretical.

Which I doesn't really understand, but I feel like Kishi created it only because Nagato couldn't move but he had to somehow showcase Rinnegan powers, thus Outer Path and Six Paths of Pain were born.

Also I just read :

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As with many things related to the Rinnegan, the statue is influenced by Buddhist terminology. Gedō (外道, Literally meaning: Outer Path), derived from the Sanskrit Tīrthika, refers to any doctrine which "treads the outer path" to enlightenment. This is opposed to the teachings of orthodox Buddhism, the Naidō (内道, Literally meaning: Inner Path), and is thus considered misguided and heretical, resulting in an alternate translation of the statue as the Demonic Statue of Heretical Doctrine.

Gedō Mazō is also connected to no other but Outer Path, which may futher indicates that Outer Path was created later, but that's not the point, I think I'm beginning to understand, six paths that everyone is talking about in Magnga are just 6 Buddhist Paths of Reincarnation

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The Outer Path isn't mentioned there, so I think same thing is happening in Manga, there were 6 paths but Kishi later on created 7 - Outer Path

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didn't read it yet, but I think it may have some answers.

 

[00Rinne]

Im not sure if I understand what you mean, yes Nagato could always use all paths on his own, even when he was alive but his legs were crippled back then, so he was controlling 6 bodies(through the outer path) and was using Rinnegan powers through them instead.



I know, maybe Kishi created it later, since original 6 paths are based on Buddhist Paths of Reincarnation and Outer Path is something else
Which I doesn't really understand, but I feel like Kishi created it only because Nagato couldn't move but he had to somehow showcase Rinnegan powers, thus Outer Path and Six Paths of Pain were born.

Also I just read :

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Gedō Mazō is also connected to no other but Outer Path, which may futher indicates that Outer Path was created later, but that's not the point, I think I'm beginning to understand, six paths that everyone is talking about in Magnga are just 6 Buddhist Paths of Reincarnation

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The Outer Path isn't mentioned there, so I think same thing is happening in Manga, there were 6 paths but Kishi later on created 7 - Outer Path

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didn't read it yet, but I think it may have some answers.

Check out my post above with my man Styles!..

The Mazou is a summoning of the outer path just like Naraka' Hell realm.. It's still six paths otherwise some1 other than Konan who don't really know much would've said there's a seventh path.. It's not there my man..

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

In all honesty I feel like it's all different. In the 3rd databook (think it's fan translated) It stated that nagato was the only user.

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And in the many instances when Madara had the rinnegan, instead of using shrina tensei (if he could) to repel gaara, he used a susano'o sword instead. Even when silencing a beast he used invisible realm instead of deva realm.
From what I understand, Sasuke had full grasp of his powers according to him

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The databook and the manga has stated countless times that the six paths of pain are nagato's, even in the new databook it said tendo is the power of pain.