Six Paths of Pein vs. Minato Namikaze
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chickmagnet
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nagato really wasnt usin the rinnegan right coz its supos 2 b loty stronger than that if he was all the paths he had he coulda used all in 1 body and more thats wat made so6p so darn powerful
shisuimirage42
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does the zero intel thing work both ways
cuz you dont just go firing off shinra tensei against one of the fastest shinobi to ever live lol
if minato crushes one pain, and that pain gets brought back to life, then wouldnt minato simply crush the pain that brought the other pain back to life? he certainly is capable of that right?
it all depends on the level of minato's intelligence
1. can he figure out the rinnegan link secret faster than J-man
2. can he figure out that one pain can bring people back to life
with his rep and the title of 4th hokage i think it's safe to say he could figure out both
like rock lee said something along the lines of "it doest matter what you can see if the body cant keep up"
yea the rinnegan may be able to follow minato movement but Minato is faster than pain in terms of body movement
as far as who would win? i honestly dont know it's a little to circumstantial for me, what if minato catches on early to the rinnegan link, wut if the rinnegan can follow minato movement.
OR WUT IF THE FIRST PAIN MINATO BEATS IS THE ONE THAT CAN BRING THE OTHER BACK TO LIFE?
then the other pains would be ****ed lol
see wut im saying there is to much uncertainty on exactly how much is too much for minato for me to make a fair assessment, but we know the exact extent of pain's power
cuz you dont just go firing off shinra tensei against one of the fastest shinobi to ever live lol
if minato crushes one pain, and that pain gets brought back to life, then wouldnt minato simply crush the pain that brought the other pain back to life? he certainly is capable of that right?
it all depends on the level of minato's intelligence
1. can he figure out the rinnegan link secret faster than J-man
2. can he figure out that one pain can bring people back to life
with his rep and the title of 4th hokage i think it's safe to say he could figure out both
like rock lee said something along the lines of "it doest matter what you can see if the body cant keep up"
yea the rinnegan may be able to follow minato movement but Minato is faster than pain in terms of body movement
as far as who would win? i honestly dont know it's a little to circumstantial for me, what if minato catches on early to the rinnegan link, wut if the rinnegan can follow minato movement.
OR WUT IF THE FIRST PAIN MINATO BEATS IS THE ONE THAT CAN BRING THE OTHER BACK TO LIFE?
then the other pains would be ****ed lol
see wut im saying there is to much uncertainty on exactly how much is too much for minato for me to make a fair assessment, but we know the exact extent of pain's power
If memory serves right, I believe we had this discussion before on the previous Minato vs Pain thread.
Either way, I cannot think of a clear winner. We might have 60%-40%, but really it cannot be predictable. We know about Minato that he was a genius and had space-time jutsu. We know what Pain can do. In the end, it's all about who manages to get the edge in the fight and we cannot say that for sure. I can easily bring proof that Minato can have the edge or easily bring proof that Pain can have the edge. Either way, it's like predicting who would win between Tobirama and Hanzo...we just don't know enough. I will try to remain impartial if a debate actually ignites.
Minato Wins.
Wouldn't take him much time to find Pains weak point and abilities.
shinra Tensei gets countered by FTG ( just like he did with Madara's Vacuum No Dojutsu )
Bansho tenei ( Gets countered by FTG )
Chibaku Tensei (gets countered by FTG )
With out FTG I think he would lose ( based on the him only having Rasengan & basic taijutsu for offense )
Wouldn't take him much time to find Pains weak point and abilities.
shinra Tensei gets countered by FTG ( just like he did with Madara's Vacuum No Dojutsu )
Bansho tenei ( Gets countered by FTG )
Chibaku Tensei (gets countered by FTG )
With out FTG I think he would lose ( based on the him only having Rasengan & basic taijutsu for offense )
I notice a pattern in theses minato vs xx threads, everyone just says minato because hes fast.
since when is speed the only thing u need to win, maybe i was wrong about uchiha fanboys, the minato fans boys maybe just as bad.
With no intell pain is virtually unbeatable, sage mode is what tippedm the the battle for naruto becuase of being able to throw the wind rasengan and frog katas, simular deal with jiriaya.
pain would win he has too many powerful options. A rasnegan only will not help u win. Jiraiya tried that and it failed he had use other stuff aswell.
also pain toook on a village by himself then naruto in sage mode then naruto in 6- 8 tail mode.
How can u guys seriouly not think nagato would win. And mind you nagato is in a paraliysed state, imagine him heathy where he can actua;lly use his powers in one body.
There's only a couple of other shinobi that compete with this feat, frist hokage and the sage of six paths.
since when is speed the only thing u need to win, maybe i was wrong about uchiha fanboys, the minato fans boys maybe just as bad.
With no intell pain is virtually unbeatable, sage mode is what tippedm the the battle for naruto becuase of being able to throw the wind rasengan and frog katas, simular deal with jiriaya.
pain would win he has too many powerful options. A rasnegan only will not help u win. Jiraiya tried that and it failed he had use other stuff aswell.
also pain toook on a village by himself then naruto in sage mode then naruto in 6- 8 tail mode.
How can u guys seriouly not think nagato would win. And mind you nagato is in a paraliysed state, imagine him heathy where he can actua;lly use his powers in one body.
There's only a couple of other shinobi that compete with this feat, frist hokage and the sage of six paths.
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Jack Spicer
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and what excatly is minato going to do in this 5 secs even he finds out about this with 6 pain bodies there.
I don't want to go in the long list haxxed powers the rinnegan offers. Use your imingination for the fight.
Tell u what though if minato can some how mark(lv 2 thurder god tech) them now that would be intresting he may be able to take out 3-4 bodies like that.
But ultimatley, minato can't deal with shinra tensei and not to mention chika tensei. Nagato isn't a dodo, rinnegan is haxxed bejond belief in the right hands
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I myself believe Pain is GoD. One of the strongest ninjas ever.
Minato isn't a dodo , he is very smart , he is a genius seen once in a lifetime. He can i think analyse pain's abilities faster than kakashi and jiraiya and think up a plan to counter.
But the fight should be a good one. Don't really know the outcome.
GaaratheFifth
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The reason why Minato can almost never lose is because, if he sees an attack coming, he can always teleport very far away to one of his established locations.
He is so fast that he can see probably see any attack coming.
The only thing we have not seen him up against is a strong genjutsu.
He is so fast that he can see probably see any attack coming.
The only thing we have not seen him up against is a strong genjutsu.
chickmagnet
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hehe the dude prolly had the best chackra control known since no1 prolly still pass em in that either
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SasukeMangekyo5
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Yeah but think there have to pass 5 seconds before doing Shinra Tensei, during that short-time Minato would attack Pain in a 0.5 second.
fastrthnwind
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Even if minato couldn't exploit the 5 seconds, if he manages to mark the deva path, he could probably get around the shinra tensei.
If he marks all of the bodies then he has a good chance to defeat them, but since pain has rinnegan, he could probably use the combined vision keep minato from pressing a seal onto any of the bodies even with his speed, since the shinra tensei could blow away all of the kunai he would lay on the battlfield.
If he marks all of the bodies then he has a good chance to defeat them, but since pain has rinnegan, he could probably use the combined vision keep minato from pressing a seal onto any of the bodies even with his speed, since the shinra tensei could blow away all of the kunai he would lay on the battlfield.
Minato isn't limited to using FTG.. IMO it'd be Minato. He was able to analyze and pick apart Madara's technique after seeing it once. What makes you guys think he wouldn't be able to do the same with the six paths of pain?
It seems like people underestimate Minato without FTG. He's a Hokage. I'm sure he was quite proficient with his regular ninjutsu usage.
Oh, and Minato was considered to be a genius. We're talking about the guy who trained Kakashi. What makes you guys think that he wouldn't be able to come up with an effecient strategy to deal with each an every path?
It seems like people underestimate Minato without FTG. He's a Hokage. I'm sure he was quite proficient with his regular ninjutsu usage.
Oh, and Minato was considered to be a genius. We're talking about the guy who trained Kakashi. What makes you guys think that he wouldn't be able to come up with an effecient strategy to deal with each an every path?
Actually, i think pain would win this.
1: Pain would cancel out minato's quickness, and ftg via his constant observation of minato's movement.He got six separate field of vision at the same time, which means pain can coordinate his attacks(and defend) without a blind spot.
2: Together the bodies were unstoppable(jiraiya and kakashi both felt the pain) ,they could absorb any jutsu, summon tons of monsters, manipulate gravity, control over life and death, produce deadly weapons, and the best part they could all be revived.
3:With shinra tensei all of minato's pre-planned kunais would dissappear into the blue moon.
4: It took an entire village PLUS jiraiya, a former student of nagato, to discover his powers and where nagoto was hiding. And then naruto still needed sage mode(enhances everything), which we have not seen minato with, and he still came up short.I doubt, minato is much smarter than the other geniouses, we have been introduced to know(jiraiya, shikamaru, his dad, kakashi etc....).
5: Naruto is not the most skilled in genjutsu(to put it mildly), can the same be said about the father? There is a high possibily of this, since they pretty much got the same skillset.And naruto even surpassed minato,in some areas.Jiraiya was his teacher and he was not the best in genjutsu either, but luckily he had the frogs
1: Pain would cancel out minato's quickness, and ftg via his constant observation of minato's movement.He got six separate field of vision at the same time, which means pain can coordinate his attacks(and defend) without a blind spot.
2: Together the bodies were unstoppable(jiraiya and kakashi both felt the pain) ,they could absorb any jutsu, summon tons of monsters, manipulate gravity, control over life and death, produce deadly weapons, and the best part they could all be revived.
3:With shinra tensei all of minato's pre-planned kunais would dissappear into the blue moon.
4: It took an entire village PLUS jiraiya, a former student of nagato, to discover his powers and where nagoto was hiding. And then naruto still needed sage mode(enhances everything), which we have not seen minato with, and he still came up short.I doubt, minato is much smarter than the other geniouses, we have been introduced to know(jiraiya, shikamaru, his dad, kakashi etc....).
5: Naruto is not the most skilled in genjutsu(to put it mildly), can the same be said about the father? There is a high possibily of this, since they pretty much got the same skillset.And naruto even surpassed minato,in some areas.Jiraiya was his teacher and he was not the best in genjutsu either, but luckily he had the frogs
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