Single-Payer Universal Healthcare explained.

Lightbringer

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Feb 9, 2012
Messages
14,168
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
To the people who constantly say that Bernie's policy will be unnaffordable, etc.

[video=youtube;QsfjEh7AfN0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsfjEh7AfN0[/video]
 

slimreaper

Active member
Elite
Joined
Aug 1, 2012
Messages
8,416
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
With Sanders’ proposed taxes, costs would need to be trimmed by roughly 42 to 47 percent — a tall order when "the most generous estimates of how much you could cut cost are on the order of 20 percent," said Sherry Glied, a professor of health policy and economics at New York University who’s served in the George H.W. Bush, Clinton and Obama administrations.
 

Lightbringer

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Feb 9, 2012
Messages
14,168
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
With Sanders’ proposed taxes, costs would need to be trimmed by roughly 42 to 47 percent — a tall order when "the most generous estimates of how much you could cut cost are on the order of 20 percent," said Sherry Glied, a professor of health policy and economics at New York University who’s served in the George H.W. Bush, Clinton and Obama administrations.
So you're denying the numbers and you quoted someone who was involved in the Great Recession? Wow.
 

slimreaper

Active member
Elite
Joined
Aug 1, 2012
Messages
8,416
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
So you're denying the numbers and you quoted someone who was involved in the Great Recession? Wow.
what a shitty argument. Did it say chief economic adviser? you're grasping at straws.


seriously people think you're smart because they already come in agreeing with you. You present shitty arguments consistently
 

Lightbringer

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Feb 9, 2012
Messages
14,168
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
what a shitty argument. Did it say chief economic adviser? you're grasping at straws.


seriously people think you're smart because they already come in agreeing with you. You present shitty arguments consistently
So you're only denying the numbers then?

But if you were smart, wouldn't more people agree with you?
 

slimreaper

Active member
Elite
Joined
Aug 1, 2012
Messages
8,416
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
So you're only denying the numbers then?

But if you were smart, wouldn't more people agree with you?
Denying the numbers?

Coming from bernie's very detailed answer of "Cutting costs"


Even he doesn't know how hes gonna get the money. He's just gonna "make the whole system more efficient". NO government program is more efficient
 

Urda

Active member
Supreme
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Messages
23,637
Kin
2,223💸
Kumi
7,705💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Single-Payer basically cuts the middleman which is Health Insurance agencies and transfer that power directly to Government to pay for all. Insurance agencies do not like this because they pocket a large percentage of our money and can fix prices to their liken.
 

slimreaper

Active member
Elite
Joined
Aug 1, 2012
Messages
8,416
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Single-Payer basically cuts the middleman which is Health Insurance agencies and transfer that power directly to Government to pay for all. Insurance agencies do not like this because they pocket a large percentage of our money and can fix prices to their liken.
insurance companies employ millions of people. Good luck finding them a new career
 

Lightbringer

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Feb 9, 2012
Messages
14,168
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Single-Payer basically cuts the middleman which is Health Insurance agencies and transfer that power directly to Government to pay for all. Insurance agencies do not like this because they pocket a large percentage of our money and can fix prices to their liken.
Exactly.
 

Lightbringer

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Feb 9, 2012
Messages
14,168
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Denying the numbers?

Coming from bernie's very detailed answer of "Cutting costs"


Even he doesn't know how hes gonna get the money. He's just gonna "make the whole system more efficient". NO government program is more efficient
So you're denying the numbers then? Because it was clearly explained.
 

slimreaper

Active member
Elite
Joined
Aug 1, 2012
Messages
8,416
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
So you're denying the numbers then? Because it was clearly explained.
I can't deny when you're unemployed That "free healthcare" is gonna be great.


At least then you don't have to pay that extra 8.4 %(bringing your total up to 48.4%)

It's not gonna save me any money. Even if it saves the government money, thats not money i'm gonna see. Basically we're back at the basic tenants of socialism again
 

Urda

Active member
Supreme
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Messages
23,637
Kin
2,223💸
Kumi
7,705💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
I can't deny when you're unemployed That "free healthcare" is gonna be great.


At least then you don't have to pay that extra 8.4 %(bringing your total up to 48.4%)

It's not gonna save me any money. Even if it saves the government money, thats not money i'm gonna see. Basically, we're back at the basic tenants of socialism again
"Government money"? Our Tax-payer money is the Government money, therefore, we are saving ourselves money. :/
 

Lightbringer

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Feb 9, 2012
Messages
14,168
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
I can't deny when you're unemployed That "free healthcare" is gonna be great.


At least then you don't have to pay that extra 8.4 %(bringing your total up to 48.4%)

It's not gonna save me any money. Even if it saves the government money, thats not money i'm gonna see. Basically we're back at the basic tenants of socialism again
So you didn't watch the video and you're denying the facts without even knowing the numbers.
 

Urda

Active member
Supreme
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Messages
23,637
Kin
2,223💸
Kumi
7,705💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
So we get to decide how it's spent right? Oh no we don't. Tax cuts do that.
That's what we elect people for, so they can make the decisions for us. :|

That is one of the issues I agree with Trump, they are not doing their job: "doing right by the people". They are for themselves.

you would eliminate millions of jobs for 40,000 people?
Yes, and Single-Pay Health Care is for all [Americans].
 

slimreaper

Active member
Elite
Joined
Aug 1, 2012
Messages
8,416
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
That why we elect people for, so they can make the decisions for us. :|

That is one of the issues I agree with Trump, they are not doing their job: "doing right by the people". They are for themselves.



Yes, and Single-Pay Health Care is for all [Americans].
but only 40,000 die every year due to lack of insurance(though I doubt that's accurate) as anyone can get treated for life threatening whatevers, so how can they possibly measure that?
 

Urda

Active member
Supreme
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Messages
23,637
Kin
2,223💸
Kumi
7,705💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
but only 40,000 die every year due to lack of insurance(though I doubt that's accurate) as anyone can get treated for life-threatening whatever, so how can they possibly measure that?
Yeah, the 45,000 estimation of death from lack of insurance was a bogus study.

Source:


It's not about being treated the problem. The issue is if they have the money to afford the treatment.
 
Top