And they're gonna fair any better than Law and Luffy did, how? Law isn't stronger than Zoro, so once Doffy separates them via using Shadow Jokers, he's gonna be able to take down Zoro as he did with Law. Then with Luffy, there's not gonna be Gatz and dozens of Colosseum fighters to save him. The same way Trebol distracted Law enough for Doffy to nail him, a Shadow Joker will and Luffy's dumbass has already shown he'd probably just stand there while it happens.
Or he just controls Zoro, who has shown zero feats to suggest he can bust out of Parasite.
And they're gonna fair any better than Law and Luffy did, how? Law isn't stronger than Zoro, so once Doffy separates them via using Shadow Jokers, he's gonna be able to take down Zoro as he did with Law. Then with Luffy, there's not gonna be Gatz and dozens of Colosseum fighters to save him.
Or he just controls Zoro, who has shown zero feats to suggest he can bust out of Parasite.
Lmfaoo are you trying to tell me that Zoro is gonna be having any sort of trouble with that Doflamingo clone?
You have got to be out of your mind. This is the same guy who sent a marine Admiral sliding a meter back while simultaneously breaking through his gravity force. You guys need to stop looking at these guys like they are Brook or Robin over here.
If serious Zoro gets rid of that thing within 5 seconds.
He controls Zoro eh, I wonder why I he wasn't able to do that with Luffy or Law on the top of the hill. I am obviously assuming there is intel, Law with intel was not gonna get caught in parasite neither is Zoro.
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Lol even worse apparently Luffy is gonna be having trouble with that clone.
I think you are forgetting the most important part, Bellamy, it wasn't the clone that occupied Luffy, it was Bellamy and Luffy being soft.
No Bellamy
No Trebol
Both Luffy and Zoro 100%
Both Luffy and Zoro fighting together.
Nope, but he can't just sidestomp it either. It casually swatted away a Jet Pistol, so it's not just a clump of string, it has a degree of clout. It's a distraction. Dives at Zoro, and as Zoro pushes it to the side, it leaves him open for an attack from the majorly stronger Doflamingo. Or leaves him distracted to become controlled. It's about diverting attention away, not giving Zoro trouble.
You have got to be out of your mind. This is the same guy who sent a marine Admiral sliding a meter back while simultaneously breaking through his gravity force. You guys need to stop looking at these guys like they are Brook or Robin over here.
And Luffy sent Garp flying dozens of meters to the ground at Marineford. Was Fuji injured, damaged, or incapacitated in any way? No? Then so what? Is mild inconvenience for three seconds supposed to be a feat?
If serious Zoro gets rid of that thing within 5 seconds.
He controls Zoro eh, I wonder why I he wasn't able to do that with Luffy or Law on the top of the hill. I am obviously assuming there is intel, Law with intel was not gonna get caught in parasite neither is Zoro.
Nope, but he can't just sidestomp it either. It casually swatted away a Jet Pistol, so it's not just a clump of string, it has a degree of clout. It's a distraction. Dives at Zoro, and as Zoro pushes it to the side, it leaves him open for an attack from the majorly stronger Doflamingo. Or leaves him distracted to become controlled. It's about diverting attention away, not giving Zoro trouble.
And Luffy sent Garp flying dozens of meters to the ground at Marineford. Was Fuji injured, damaged, or incapacitated in any way? No? Then so what? Is mild inconvenience for three seconds supposed to be a feat?
See first paragraphs.
Same reason Akainu let fodder charge at WB instead of using Volcano Meteor to blow his head away with a volley of meteors.
Same reason Doffy had his threads stab Luffy in the stomach instead of the throat right before King Kong Gun.
Same reason Kizaru kicked Luffy instead of Aokiji freezing him or Akainu incinerating him on the execution platform.
Same reason Kizaru shot Luffy's clay key instead of shooting Luffy or Ace in the neck or head.
Same reason Doffy cut off Law's arm instead of his leg.
Same reason Akainu dove at Luffy and Ace instead of showering them point blank with meteors.
Same reason Whitebeard chose to use a Quake Punch rather than lopping off Akainu's head as the sneak attack.
Same reason Kizaru shot Marco in the chest instead of in his head when the Seastone cuffs were on.
Same reason Lucci grabbed Chibi Luffy while he was stuck in the wall instead of driving a claw-enhanced Shigan through his throat.
Same reason Lucci listened to Usopp's yelling and moved to go after him instead of just killing the immobilized Luffy.
What feats have Zoro shown that indicates he can break or avoid Parasite?
Is that the same reason Law didn't solo Doflamingo? Enough excuses, those instances aren't the same, not to mention some of them are absurd.
Parasite is a hax move and just like every hax attack it has a trick behind it. Law knew the trick that's why it was useless in their fight. Sanji didn't and it was heavily implied no intel was the reason he got caught.
This is a scenario of a character doing something they are not capable of doing. Not the same as my scenarios, where a character chose one option that was inferior to another option within their power to do that would have been much better and a gamechanger/ender. Which is what Doflamingo did; went for options OTHER than Parasite on Law and Luffy.
Enough excuses, those instances aren't the same, not to mention some of them are absurd.
Point out the absurd ones and explain why they aren't viable scenarios then.
Parasite is a hax move and just like every hax attack it has a trick behind it. Law knew the trick that's why it was useless in their fight. Sanji didn't and it was heavily implied no intel was the reason he got caught.
Oh because Zoro studied the encyclopedia of how Doffy's Parasite works, right? What intel does he have that allows him to avoid it like Law supposedly could? And how did Law avoid Parasite? Was it when Doffy was forcing him to parry strings, or dangling him by one arm before sawing it off, or maybe it was when Doffy impaled him with Full Bright?
This is a scenario of a character doing something they are not capable of doing. Not the same as my scenarios, where a character chose one option that was inferior to another option within their power to do that would have been much better and a gamechanger/ender. Which is what Doflamingo did; went for options OTHER than Parasite on Law and Luffy.
Law at the bridge could have shambled Doflamingo into the water or atleast tried to.
-Law after landing Gamma knife could have removed Doflamingo's heart, instead of using counter shock. The list goes on, we can keep looking for excuses.
Point out the absurd ones and explain why they aren't viable scenarios then.
Akainu showering Ace and Luffy with meteors made me chuckle.
Others were just bad. Namely WB sneak attacking Akainu from behind, since when could WB lop off Akainu's head? Last time someone tried to slice Akainu he reformed.
Kizaru kicking Luffy at the stand made sense since Luffy tried using speed to dodge the 3 admirals and Kizaru is the fastest of those 3.
Some others were pretty questionable as well.
Oh because Zoro studied the encyclopedia of how Doffy's Parasite works, right? What intel does he have that allows him to avoid it like Law supposedly could? And how did Law avoid Parasite? Was it when Doffy was forcing him to parry strings, or dangling him by one arm before sawing it off, or maybe it was when Doffy impaled him with Full Bright?
Doflamingo chose not to use parasite, I take it as it would have been useless to try, and when he did get the opening there was no reason to use it.
He also used Parasite on Luffy when he seemed to be immobilized first.
What is parasite? Some magic happening or is it string being attached to the opponent. If aware of it, and with some solid CoO and intel, it should be avoidable.
Law at the bridge could have shambled Doflamingo into the water or atleast tried to.
-Law after landing Gamma knife could have removed Doflamingo's heart, instead of using counter shock. The list goes on, we can keep looking for excuses.
Others were just bad. Namely WB sneak attacking Akainu from behind, since when could WB lop off Akainu's head? Last time someone tried to slice Akainu he reformed.
He caught Sanji while Sanji was moving. Same with Jozu. Try again.
What is parasite? Some magic happening or is it string being attached to the opponent. If aware of it, and with some solid CoO and intel, it should be avoidable.
Leave Doffy alone with the captain and you have a high difficulty win. Add all three of them there and they're babysitting doflamingo. Strawhats are way stronger than they let off and the only one who actually tried against the flamingo pirates is luffy against Doffy.
Besides that it was a walk in the park for everyone. Their main struggle if anything is birdcage.
Law is stronger than Zoro and him and Luffy together couldn't bring down Doflamingo, even with Gear 4th being used. There's no way Luffy and Zoro alone are taking down Doflamingo. Doflamingo creates a Shadow Joker or two and controls Sanji and everyone weaker than him. Is Zoro and Luffy just gonna plow through their friends? I think not. A numbers game isn't a good way to fight Doflamingo, especially when the third strongest of the numbers have shown they can't fend off Doflamingo's marionette powers and the second strongest is weaker than Law, who couldn't bring down Doflamingo with Luffy without the help of Gats and dozens of Colosseum fighters.
People seem to forget Doflamingo's defeat was very, very circumstantial and forget the amount of help it took for Luffy and Law to actually bring him down.
Can you and Devia please stop ignoring the fact that Doflamingo also had a lot of help? Also, the SHs, especially the M3, aren't just going to stand there and let Doflamingo parasite them. There's no way that the entire SH crew is going to lose to Doflamingo at this point.
Can you and Devia please stop ignoring the fact that Doflamingo also had a lot of help? Also, the SHs, especially the M3, aren't just going to stand there and let Doflamingo parasite them. There's no way that the entire SH crew is going to lose to Doflamingo at this point.
He can only make 1 clone at a time, and Bellamy did much more to help Doffy than the clone did. Jozu was charging at Croc and didn't know that Doffy would intervene, so that's a shitty comparison. Sanji will have the help of Luffy Zoro, and other SHs, so landing a parasite on him won't be easy. Even if Doffy lands a parasite on a non-M3 SH, they would be useless since they would be weaker when they are being controlled.
Like the way Luffy broke the strings on Bellamy and helped him get free? How exactly is Luffy gonna stop Parasite from landing by the way? Doflamingo caught Jozu with a flick of his wrist when Jozu was an inch away from Crocodile, so he can catch a fast moving target. He caught Sanji while Sanji was in the middle of an attack and while defending, so it's not like he can't block an attack from Luffy, Zoro, or Sanji while simultaneously catching someone in Parasite. All it took from Doffy was flicking his wrist, so it can actually be pretty easy for anyone on Sanji's level and below.
And I'm still waiting on feats that show Zoro can escape Parasite.
Even if Doffy lands a parasite on a non-M3 SH, they would be useless since they would be weaker when they are being controlled.
back at it again riker with the most horrible comparisons. G4 luffy by himself is enough for doffy to pay attention to him for a 1v1 battle. he doesnt have time to go control other Sh's. and zoro + luffy in G4 its done but let me be somewhat biased like u and say doffy still lives, he has to pay full attention to both luffy and zoro he has no time to pay attention to anyone else. and sanji is no joke as he can get easy hits on doffy when zoro and luffy manage him. if doffy tries to parasite others hes leaving himself to be hit by the heavy hitters.
Riker owned these clowns and Zoro is overrated as hell as usual. Also if it's all the SH they get stomped worst than if it was just Zoro and Luffy. Nami,Brook,Ussop and the others don't stand a chance at stopping themselves from being controlled. Which means Luffy and Zoro get injured trying to stop them without hurting them.
you can't be serious. How long would it have taken him to do the former attack vs the latter. Do you know? Unless you can tell me then it's pointless. It would have been downright retarded of him to use the former. All he needed to do was punch a hole in Luffy, which should be much faster than doing an upper end attack for no good reason.
Right here. WB could have lopped off his head instead of punching him.
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Last time Akainu ignored Haki, it wasn't Whitebeard's. Last time Whitebeard's Haki hit Akainu, he couldn't ignore it. Get the picture?
Do you understand what attack power is? Jozu made Kuzan bleed because he hit harder, nothing points to his Haki being stronger than Marco's or Vista's.
WB's haki was absolute crap throughout the war, and now suddenly it would be so controlled and precise that he beheads Akainu?
Are you reading over what you type? Slashes in this manga don't do much better than regular hits. Zoro can slice buildings like butter but when he lands an attack on an enemy, it won't even cut that deep.
For instance pillars behind Zoro being sliced, but the cut on Zoro isn't even deep enough to give him a scar.
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There isn't some advantage to cutting then there is regular attacks this is One Piece, especially when it comes to WB who uses his quakes, his cutting attack would be that much more useless. Aren't you a Doflamingo fan, lmfao you should know this if you're wanking, his strings which sliced the meteor up like butter gave Sanji and the like superficial wounds.
You are fooling yourself if you think WB would magically cut off Akainu's head. You've got the wrong manga here.
Are you saying that Akainu and Kuzan would have been unable to catch Luffy?
No, it only makes sense the fastest guy gets there first. Which was Kizaru. Also that kick took Luffy out of the war if it weren't for Ivankovs hormones.
Because there was no reason to use it in those instances. When he could have used it, he didn't. Perhaps because he was too caught up and was being pressured in combat? Maybe the same reason Law couldn't easily shambles Doflamingo underwater or something?
He caught Sanji while Sanji was moving. Same with Jozu. Try again.
Do you even know what parasite is? Is it some magical thing that is unavoidable or something? How am I even supposed to pull up feats for someone handling something so specific? The parasite strings are very hard to see, that doesn't mean they aren't there and that something isn't indeed being attached to your body, it's as simple as there being intel on it or not, there is nothing that is unavoidable, that wouldn't even make sense.
Lmao, not sure if some people on here are serious. :eww: There are only two instances in the entire fight when Luffy and Law truly worked together. Guess what we have in return?[
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] There is noway Doflamingo is doing shit to Zoro while dealing with Luffy and vice versa let alone him going as far as manipulating the rest of the crew. Though I can agree that Luffy's crew in general is inferior to Doffy's.