Sorry but that doesnt disprove the fact that sasuke gained susanoo and tsukuyomi from Itachi. If it said that only ama could be transferred then that would make sense but theres no contradiction between the manga/databook so that means that both of those statements are right.
Show me a Manga page that says Susanoo requires Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi!
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But sense we now know of three what makes susanoo different now. Each Susanoo have the same yet different abilities as well. but why would the requirements for the technique be different saying they different (refering to the requirements) are false until proven otherwise. by the third databook and the current information we have as of RIGHT now. the requirements are the same. but i know its not related but i enjoy talking to you
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i wont deny this but im standing my ground on my view on this subject. this is a fun debate
The databook is outdated as of now, however only Itachi and sasuke have been shown to have the ability to cast ama/tsukuyomi. Madara had plenty of times to use it during the kage's fight and even naruto's fight. There's absolutely no excuse why madara didnt use tsukuyomi here...
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That being said, Its safe to infer that madara possesses neither tsukuyomi or ama which means that (according to the manga, which is more up to date than the databook) his requirements to unlock susanoo are different. Sasuke/Itachi have the same because sasuke was given his abilities via Itachi
lol okay
yeah this was pretty entertaining
The way I see it:
First, the databook stated that Susanoo requires Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.
Sasuke does indeed have them both, but his version is weaker than Itachi's since he is less genjutsu oriented. I don't remember Sasuke being specially adept in genjutsu prior to awakening the MS, he was always the brute force kinda guy unlike his peaceful brother. That's why his Tsukuyomi is weaker than Itachi's, but his usage of Amaterasu is far more advanced. For those saying Sasuke's genjutsu can't be Tsukuyomi because it's weak, the difference comes from different levels of genjutsu prowess and different personalities/fighting styles. Any other jutsu's power varies from user to user too.
First, the databook stated that Susanoo requires Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.
Sasuke does indeed have them both, but his version is weaker than Itachi's since he is less genjutsu oriented. I don't remember Sasuke being specially adept in genjutsu prior to awakening the MS, he was always the brute force kinda guy unlike his peaceful brother. That's why his Tsukuyomi is weaker than Itachi's, but his usage of Amaterasu is far more advanced. For those saying Sasuke's genjutsu can't be Tsukuyomi because it's weak, the difference comes from different levels of genjutsu prowess and different personalities/fighting styles. Any other jutsu's power varies from user to user too.
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Until itachi was brought back people assumed he only had ama/tsuku/sanoo but he had one more that being said the absense of evidence is not the evidence of absenceThe databook is outdated as of now, however only Itachi and sasuke have been shown to have the ability to cast ama/tsukuyomi. Madara had plenty of times to use it during the kage's fight and even naruto's fight. There's absolutely no excuse why madara didnt use tsukuyomi here...
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That being said, Its safe to infer that madara possesses neither tsukuyomi or ama which means that (according to the manga, which is more up to date than the databook) his requirements to unlock susanoo are different. Sasuke/Itachi have the same because sasuke was given his abilities via Itachi
lol okay
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But its also safe to assume madara had more options in his skill set tooThe databook is outdated as of now, however only Itachi and sasuke have been shown to have the ability to cast ama/tsukuyomi. Madara had plenty of times to use it during the kage's fight and even naruto's fight. There's absolutely no excuse why madara didnt use tsukuyomi here...
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That being said, Its safe to infer that madara possesses neither tsukuyomi or ama which means that (according to the manga, which is more up to date than the databook) his requirements to unlock susanoo are different. Sasuke/Itachi have the same because sasuke was given his abilities via Itachi
lol okay
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http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=330823
There's^ the undeniable proof. Suck it up!
There's^ the undeniable proof. Suck it up!
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I agree but in the scan i provided there was a perfect chance for kishi to showcase madara's genjutsu prowess, and i would say its pretty clear that madara cant use tsukuyomi, given just that panel. because as i said there was no excuse for madara to whip out another genjutsu when tsukuyomi would've been more convenient/effective, he could've killed A right there
tsukuyomi would have been the most effective way of killing A at that exact moment, hell even ama would've been a good choice
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Genjustu isnt effective on multiple targets either especially the strongest group of ninja
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it apears as if he did cast tsukuyomi
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^Summarizing pretty much every single one of your posts on this thread.
Fact is that the Databook clearly states that the Susanoo resides only within those who has mastered these techniques. (referring to the Amaterasu and Totsuka) You can try to deny it all you want, but this is as clear as it gets. Itachi's name being on there changes nothing at all, and stating that is does is laughable. Insult everyone who disagrees with you all you want, but the fact still stand, the DB says that the technique is accessible to those who have mastered the Amaterasu and Susanoo, and you refusing to believe that changes nothing at all.
^Summarizing pretty much every single one of your posts on this thread.
Fact is that the Databook clearly states that the Susanoo resides only within those who has mastered these techniques. (referring to the Amaterasu and Totsuka) You can try to deny it all you want, but this is as clear as it gets. Itachi's name being on there changes nothing at all, and stating that is does is laughable. Insult everyone who disagrees with you all you want, but the fact still stand, the DB says that the technique is accessible to those who have mastered the Amaterasu and Susanoo, and you refusing to believe that changes nothing at all.
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