should tobirama have been able to handle those 20 ninja?

[slashestranged]

tobirama died while stalling 20 enemy ninja so that his team could survive and complete the mission. whenever this is brought up many people say that he shouldve been able to handle the 20 ninja without dying. what do you think? should he have died or should he have been able to handle them?

imo, he should have died because even if the 20 ninja were at asuma's level, no way tobirama could handle 20 of them.

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

They were more like Kakashi and Darui level. Plus I'm sure Kin and/or Gin were with them so he had an honorable end imo

 

[monkeyking7]

plot no jutsu i think he should of had no problem but he was just a small progression for 4th hokages and danzos backgrounds

 

[Midday]

He should have been able to handle it, he has a form space time jutsu which Minato has as well and he managed to save Kakashi from 20 or so jonnins and finish them off. Beast kage handled 10,000(?) ninja's for 3 days and nights. The 2nd had a pathetic death.

 

[BadBoy M]

that 20 ninja maybe all jonin level + kage vs 1

we dont know :shrug:

 

[Prince Charles]

they were probably around kakashi's level.

 

[mas129]

He had a space time jutsu, not sure what it was exactly but should have been enough to escape with. Tobi with his could have got away and same with Minato.

 

[Easyfathom]

I think they should have worked as a team and taken em down to be honest, but a lass, plot no jutsu was just too strong

 

[Prince Charles]

He should have been able to handle it, he has a form space time jutsu which Minato has as well and he managed to save Kakashi and finish them off. Beast kage handled 10,000(?) ninja's for 3 days and nights. The 2nd had a pathetic death.

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[Ryuu..]

They were more like Kakashi and Darui level. Plus I'm sure Kin and/or Gin were with them so he had an honorable end imo

Agreed.

He should have been able to handle it, he has a form space time jutsu which Minato has as well and he managed to save Kakashi and finish them off. Beast kage handled 10,000(?) ninja's for 3 days and nights. The 2nd had a pathetic death.

10,000 Fodders < 20 Elite Jounin.

 

[TheSages456]

who can handle kinkaku and ginkakau+18 kakashi level ninja?

 

[Netsui]

They weren't just 20 ninja, they were elite ninja. That means they were pretty strong, and not even Tobirama could handle 20 Elite Ninja. He went down in an honorable way, and he did it so that no one from the team besides him would have died.

 

[MorphyRulez]

They are not fodder ninja like when minato fought in Bridge. And also just Kin&Gin bros are really dangereous.They have Sage Weapons after all.If there is no plot-no-jutsu, it was end for Darui and his team.

 

[stinkey]

he should have no prob bcz he was the best shinobi of his time and he was the best in water style + he has ST ninjtsu + edo tensi. i think he will be revealed later in a flashback. i think tobi killed him and learnt his ST ninjutsu

 

[Minator93]

he got plot no jutsu'd

 

[bmnaruto]

He died because he made himself a decoy so the other can escape and the ninja's who clashed with tobirama is said to be the elite cloud ninja's so it means they are pretty strong.

 

[Midday]

I'll give him a little more credit then. But the second should be above that he was second in command to Hashirama. Gin and Kin are good but Dauri who's a jonnin(Kage level?) handled them, the remaining 18 wouldn't be on Dauri/Kakashi's level like people are making it out to be. Asuma is an elitle jonnin and was easily killed by Hidan.

There are enough people who could have done it:

Spoiler

Naruto, Madara, Kabuto, Hashirama, 3rd(prime), Nagato, Tobi

Those where just the obvious choices I could think of.

He was the second Hokage and his power should have been at least comparable to Hashirama's.

 

[bmnaruto]

I think they should have worked as a team and taken em down to be honest, but a lass, plot no jutsu was just too strong

They can't work as a team. why? because only tobirama i think is the only one capable of fighting. hiruzen,danzo and the others have no chance.

 

[Prince Charles]

He should have been able to handle it, he has a form space time jutsu which Minato has as well and he managed to save Kakashi from 20 or so jonnins and finish them off. Beast kage handled 10,000(?) ninja's for 3 days and nights. The 2nd had a pathetic death.

I'll give him a little more credit then. But the second should be above that he was second in command to Hashirama. Gin and Kin are good but Dauri who's a jonnin(Kage level?) handled them, the remaining 18 wouldn't be on Dauri/Kakashi's level like people are making it out to be. Asuma is an elitle jonnin and was easily killed by Hidan.

agreed +rep

 

[Netsui]

I'll give him a little more credit then. But the second should be above that he was second in command to Hashirama. Gin and Kin are good but Dauri who's a jonnin(Kage level?) handled them, the remaining 18 wouldn't be on Dauri/Kakashi's level like people are making it out to be. Asuma is an elitle jonnin and was easily killed by Hidan.

Darui had plot-no-jutsu on his side, while Tobirama did not. And anybody could lose easily against Hidan.

And we don't know what level the other 18 would be on. Elite Jounins could be on different levels than each other, so it could be possible for some of them to be on Kakashi's level. But those 20 were probably the best ninja the Cloud had, so even the 2nd had trouble against them.

And you can't expect his power to be compared to Hashirama. Hashirama had Wood, and from what we know Tobirama did not.