Haha whatever excuse you need to make to preserve your delicate ego. I only swore because you put words in my mouth and your self entitled comments pissed me off. It's good that you've conceded defeat though, this was getting boring.
[Discussion] Should Byakuya have died (pole inside)
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Forbidden Tale
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Vandenre1ch
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Byakuya was originally supposed to die. In the first quincy attack, 3 people were supposed to die in irder to create a good sense of danger. Kira the unpopular low-tier, Byakuya the super popular mid-tier, and Yammamoto the semi-popular high-tier. There was a huge outcry from Byakuya fans not only because he 'died', but how he died. After a month or so, viewership and manga sales dropped a little bit and Kubo had no choice but to bring Byakuya back.
Killua Zoldyck
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Toshiro's not dead.
As for the thread, yes, I think it would have been very impactful if he died and Rukia Vs Äs Nödt would have been much better, especially if Äs Nödt kept Byakuya's Bankai and used it against her.
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Forbidden Tale
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Hm, your username really suit you.
Rojuro and Kensei are dead, why would the case with Toshiro be different.
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Forbidden Tale
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1. I don't have a mother.
2. Just a type of person i thought you really are, insulting and nothing more, you even can't try to insult me anymore, so you are going deeper, just the personas I hate most. The only thing they know is insulting and nothing more, and even then, when they realised that they can't insult you anymore, they have to interfere family. It seems someone don't know what manners is.
Forbidden Tale
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1. You can't make 'mother' jokes with someone you don't know. You realise that? You actually shouldn't make any 'insult' jokes with anyone you don't know, you don't know how someone will react to it, and it's even worse to make them on internet, where your knowledge about people are even lesser than in real life. Jokes like these could only be made between close friends in some situation, if someone like them, I don't, if my close friend, made some joke like that, I would hit him, and you are even person that don't know me, don't know about my family, and you dares to insult them.
It's not that I put burden on you, you did that yourself, by trying to offend or whatever you want to call it - stranger. You don't know who am I, do I have family, how old am I, my name,.....
2. I wouldn't call you Scumbag, if A) you didn't put that word in your username B) (and more important) If you didn't write **** in every point you made, and calling constanty my points absurb, which is disrespect, I wouldn't have a problem if you disagreed with me, I would respect your view, but I will not respect views of someone who try to insult me and you also showed that with negg rep me, which is only used when someone is offending you but your comment was: "dumbest shit I've ever read. Entitled fans like you are the worst."
3. There is no reason for me to be in heated debate, that was just ordinary debate for me, I had a lot of them on Bleach Asylum, nothing new for me. Even if you were pissed off, I don't see why, I didn't insult you, as long as I remember I didn't say anything that would offend you or your points, even if you were in heated debate, what's the problem with deleting words that were **** or replace them, it don't take time at all.
4. I can say same for you, Why didn't you stop replying.
It's not that I put burden on you, you did that yourself, by trying to offend or whatever you want to call it - stranger. You don't know who am I, do I have family, how old am I, my name,.....
2. I wouldn't call you Scumbag, if A) you didn't put that word in your username B) (and more important) If you didn't write **** in every point you made, and calling constanty my points absurb, which is disrespect, I wouldn't have a problem if you disagreed with me, I would respect your view, but I will not respect views of someone who try to insult me and you also showed that with negg rep me, which is only used when someone is offending you but your comment was: "dumbest shit I've ever read. Entitled fans like you are the worst."
3. There is no reason for me to be in heated debate, that was just ordinary debate for me, I had a lot of them on Bleach Asylum, nothing new for me. Even if you were pissed off, I don't see why, I didn't insult you, as long as I remember I didn't say anything that would offend you or your points, even if you were in heated debate, what's the problem with deleting words that were **** or replace them, it don't take time at all.
4. I can say same for you, Why didn't you stop replying.
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Forbidden Tale
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one more, as long as you say something that can hurt me you are insulting, I have rights to take them perosnally.
No, I'm not happy. As I said you shouldn't do that in the first place.
You are the first one who started with insulting me, when I replied in same manner, you bring my mother here. You don't know who my mother is, you don't know is she alive, is she ill, but you dare to say something that can hure some people.
I agree, but as I said, you first starte, I woudln't say that, if you didn't started first.
I didn't take it much personally either, as long as you didn't bring my mother here. You can't say anything to me so you are ready to go further.
Exactly, not everyone know, that's why you don't say something like you said, just in case, because you don't know me.
If I really did, but I did not, there are nicer ways to explain it.
I am the problem because you insulted my dead mother?
I had a situation when guy on this forum were doing something similar, after talking with him, he said: "I'm sorry, you know who people around here".
If we were on BA, you would be banned long ago.
Your first two posts in the debate already had 2 insults, mind 2 didn't, that as I see you have one post without any bad, in my next post I didn't say anything bad about it, in next post you again insulted me (that's the comment I didn't read at that time).
Why didn't you stop after I made my last post, I don't like to left something without words, even in my "supposed to be" last post I didn't said anything insulting to you, but you again had one more post:
So why didn't you stop, even after I made my next comment? Why didn't you stop if that borded you?
Didn't you said that it bore you? So how is it on me? Rules said that you are not allowed to offend anyone, you offend me alot, "idiot"..... I'm butthurt? I'm just folowing the rules, you don't.
My opinions about you are chaging very fast, just two reply before, I thought maybe he is not bad guy, but maybe I was wrong. Please, don't be a bad guy in my eyes, surprise me with your next reply, so that we can end this.
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apple pie of doom
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I don't get why he changed it because fans send him suicide letters?
Anyone who is weak minded enough to kill himself over a damn manga should'nt even be living in the first place.
Anyone who is weak minded enough to kill himself over a damn manga should'nt even be living in the first place.
kotoamatsukami
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kotoamatsukami
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It broke cuz Byakuya was near death..but once he got healed it came back the blade was almost all gone but aslong as the Hilt is still there he's good...in his first battle with ichigo the whole thing went away.
An yea still need that proof that he was supposed to die?
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This is a very rare case where the person asking for proof is being unreasonable. Not because they're asking for proof, but because they're ignoring all the circumstantial evidence that supports his death. Including Haschwald commenting on his death, his Zanpakuto being destroyed, Byakuya giving a moving speech about leaving Soul Society's fate in Ichigo's hands. Oh yeah and having his insides torn out. Everything about that chapter pointed to his death. An entire chapter was dedicated to him dying. He was only brought back because of his fan's tears, sort of like that first Pokemon movie. There was one little panel that confirmed Byakuya's survival by a random fodder medic. After all that drama not even Kubo would fake a character death and then retcon the entire ordeal in such an anticlimactic manner. Not even Kubo god damn it!
kotoamatsukami
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Well yea his spirtual pressure was very very low to the point where jugram could not even sense it out lol Byakuya talked to ichigo a while after jugram said thoes words...his zanpacto won't destroyed the hilt was still there...well yea he gave that speech cuz ichigo was really the only one left who could save them an he saved them from aizen...momo was stabbed by like every captain she survived,that vizard girl was bascially cut in half by gin she survived,Matsumoto had her side ripped off by allon even she survived, so Byakuya living is not to amazing.
So yea wheres that proof I've been waiting for...an as we just seen kubo killed off a lot of people so what you saying?
A SHINGAMI'S ZANPAKTOU ONLY DISSAPEARS WHEN THEY'RE ABOUT TO DIE..MEANING BYAKUYA WAS GOING TO DIE. Going by your logic Ryjuinn Jacka should of started to crumbling away after Yama's fight with Aizen. Byakuya had to have his zanpaktou reforged it was gone meaning he was supposed to be dead. Stop being a ****ing idiot, usually I don't cuss people put in a bleach debate discussion but damn.
kotoamatsukami
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Where does it say in the manga a zanpacto will disappear if the owner dies please post a link please...byakuya never said he had his reforged he said he gained a deeper connection with senbonzakura an that's all...if the zanpacto disappear when the owner dies then how did tosen take his dead friends zanpacto an made it his own?...ur looking like a idiot right now...byakuya zan broke the same way renji's was breaking apart after his fight with Byakuya.
So yea his zanpacto won't gone only the blade part was broken once the owner gets healed it comes back..know ur bleach.
An I'm still waiting on that proof?
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The funny thing is when I asked if he should be dead I mostly meant from a story tellers perspective. As in do you people think the story would be better off if he kicked the bucket? I think so and have already said why. I can't believe people are still debating whether Kubo wanted to kill him off or not. You can't prove it without proof but you can't deny the circumstantial evidence either which there was more of than any other death in the series that turned out to be a hoax. We'll never get anywhere like this.
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