Shodaime's power

[Zanji]

hmm interesting theory but i dont think that shodaime was powerful just becouse of that necklace....the necklace has the first*s chakra embedded in it so thats why yamato was able to suppress the kyuubi becouse the necklace reacted to yamato*s chakra who is similar to shodaime*s.

Yes, that makes sense but I still think that there is something more involved with these necklaces because I still can't come to thinking that there is a Shinobi out there that has Super Strength, Mokuton, and the power to control all 9 bijuu's. :/

yamato used wood ninjustu to supress amataresu (the ultimate) fire, so im sure the 1st would be able to handle a little fire. Also wood ninjustu comes from earth and waater elements. So he could use water element to put out a little fire

Wrong, Yamato didn't use the Mokuton to surpass the Amaterasu he used Doton to separate the ground that Amaterasu was burning so Mokuton was not involve.

 

[Bianca]

Oo how many necklaces like that are there anyways?

 

[Sage106]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=201579" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-201579">Zanji Uchiha said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Yes, that makes sense but I still think that there is something more involved with these necklaces because I still can't come to thinking that there is a Shinobi out there that has Super Strength, Mokuton, and the power to control all 9 bijuu's. :/<br /> <br /> <br /> Wrong, Yamato didn't use the Mokuton to surpass the Amaterasu he used Doton to separate the ground that Amaterasu was burning so Mokuton was not involve. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>but he can still supress amatersu and he's got water element too, so i think the first could handle the uchicha fire</div>

 

[Zanji]

Oo how many necklaces like that are there anyways?

I think Tsunade said there were three but his main neckless could have been split into three for his family :/

but he can still supress amatersu and he's got water element too, so i think the first could handle the uchicha fire

Yes, but there is no water that can put Amaterasu out.

 

[Sage106]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=201593" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-201593">Zanji Uchiha said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> I think Tsunade said there were three but his main neckless could have been split into three for his family :/<br /> <br /> <br /> Yes, but there is no water that can put Amaterasu out. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>im sure maadara used fire element on the 1st and possibly amaterasu, so i would assume the 1st dealt with these someway since he won</div>

 

[Miggy69]

well really wood doesnt burn if its green or alive. only dead wood burns at an excelerated rate due to the fact that living wood contains a crap ton of water lol just wanted to throw a little redneck science in there.

thats what i was tryin to say but i gave up

 

[DarkShadowM99]

thats what i was tryin to say but i gave up

We all know fire beats wind but during the fight against Sasuke and Naruto at the valley of the end or whatever it was called, Nine tails Naruto dispersed Sasuke's flame with a blast of air from his mouth. Likewise Water beats Fire but a higher Level Fire would evaporate the water. The 1st wood Jutsu is probably at a way higher level than Uchiha Fire Jutsus. Madara was able to pat the flames of Sasuke's Ameratsu off with his hand some how so saying that Ameratsu is unstoppable is a bold and inaccurate Statement. Also Some wood is fire Resistant.

-D-

 

[Miggy69]

lol thank u for agreeing

 

[sancio1995]

mokuton users add chakra to the wood so the wood may be stronger so it can resists any fire attack less amateratsu

 

[Sage106]

<div class="bbWrapper">i think what made him strong is that he mastered senjustu. Its no coincidence that his name is senju harishima from the senju clan. <div class="bbCodeSpoiler"> <button type="button" class="bbCodeSpoiler-button button" data-xf-click="toggle" data-xf-init="tooltip" title="Click to reveal or hide spoiler"><span class="button-text"> <span>Spoiler</span> </span></button> <div class="bbCodeSpoiler-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--spoiler"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content">senju = senjustu , i didnt notice that till someone from NB pointed it out</div> </div> </div> </div> I think kishi is hinting that the 1st mastered senjustu. That explains how he was able to get enough chakra to control the bijuu's , he got from nature</div>

 

[Shodaime]

the necklace is for chakra.

 

[Kawagiri]

You must be registered for see links

the most fitting translation of senju-previous priest or resident
the most fitting translation of senjutsu-wizardry
i just think it's coincidence

 

[Sage106]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=216521" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-216521">kawagiri shinigami said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> <div class="messageHide messageHide--link"> You must be registered for see links </div><br /> the most fitting translation of senju-previous priest or resident<br /> the most fitting translation of senjutsu-wizardry<br /> i just think it's coincidence </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>not in naruto, senju senjustu coincidence, i dont think so. It takes a lot of amount of power to control the bijuu's , where did he get all that power. I think from senjustu, i think he mastered it and thats what made him the strongest of his time.</div>

 

[Kawagiri]

there has been no real evidence of him learning sage arts though and it seems you have to train with the frogs to do it (hence if you fail to do it right u turn into a frog rather than something else...) plus it seems kishi just loves throwing a spanner in the works like this hence
talks of suigetsu being sais bro and...
is tobi - obito madara danzou e.t.c.

it's just another spanner he's thrown in there in my opinion but you are all free to have yours too.

kishi probably loves just seeing all these connections and conspiracies popping up

 

[Zanji]

there has been no real evidence of him learning sage arts though and it seems you have to train with the frogs to do it (hence if you fail to do it right u turn into a frog rather than something else...) plus it seems kishi just loves throwing a spanner in the works like this hence
talks of suigetsu being sais bro and...
is tobi - obito madara danzou e.t.c.

it's just another spanner he's thrown in there in my opinion but you are all free to have yours too.

kishi probably loves just seeing all these connections and conspiracies popping up

well first Suigetsu and Sai aren't brothers that has been proven because Suigetsu's brother was apart of the Seven Swordsmen of th Mist

An I have to agree Shodaime couldnt have had Senjutsu due to the fact he has nevre trainined with the toads and his name wasn't on the scroll