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First of all.. Izanami is a genjutsu... Eye contact genjutsu dnt work on kabuto.. Bt Kotoamatsukami requires no eye contact... I already wrote dat mehn..

And beside that Izanami is a forbidden jutzu , koto isn't
So Izanami > Koto
 

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Lol.. Nahh.. Lecture me

Well... The caster, get this, has control over the resurrected person! Crazy I know!
So! Shisui's only chance at using KA is the instant he first steps out of the coffin. Before Kabuto binds him with hand seals and then puts a talisman in his skull.
But yeah I'm sure that's plenty of time for Shisui to get out of his confusion at being resurrected, recognize Edo Tensei (assuming he even knows it), and then cast Kotoamatsukami on Kabuto. All before Kabuto does 1 hand seal.
 

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You people do know that Kotoakatsukami requires eye contact as seen by Itachi releasing himself from Edo Tensei contract and stating to Naruto that Saskue having his own eyes, upon looking into the Shisui's, the program - protect the village - would command Saskue. (paraphrasing)

Also, you could be misunderstanding the technique. It is cast on you without you be unaware you have subcum under the Genjutsu influence.
 

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By that logic everyone loses to Shisui?
 

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we know about that already
 

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You people do know that Kotoakatsukami requires eye contact as seen by Itachi releasing himself from Edo Tensei contract and stating to Naruto that Saskue having his own eyes, upon looking into the Shisui's, the program - protect the village - would command Saskue. (paraphrasing)

Danzo used it against Mifune with a bandage over his sharingan.
 

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I think it was said that it took 10 years for his Kotoamatsukami to be useable again after using it, so yes, he would pretty much beat any character with it.

Imagine Shisui with Hashirama's DNA, now that would be op O.o
 

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It's interesting how both of Shisui's eyes do the same thing. Normally the left and right eye have different techniques.

I just had a thought - I wonder what Shisui would gain from an EMS...
 

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Well... The caster, get this, has control over the resurrected person! Crazy I know!
So! Shisui's only chance at using KA is the instant he first steps out of the coffin. Before Kabuto binds him with hand seals and then puts a talisman in his skull.
But yeah I'm sure that's plenty of time for Shisui to get out of his confusion at being resurrected, recognize Edo Tensei (assuming he even knows it), and then cast Kotoamatsukami on Kabuto. All before Kabuto does 1 hand seal.


....But, Kabuto dosen't have Shisui's body..

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It's interesting how both of Shisui's eyes do the same thing. Normally the left and right eye have different techniques.

I just had a thought - I wonder what Shisui would gain from an EMS...

I think one eye is able to install a command into a person, in which that person has to obey, and the other eye can (with eye contact) controll a person into doing something. So they aren't really the exact same thing.
 

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Danzo used it against Mifune with a bandage over his sharingan.

We don't speak on that logic. >.> Example, Kakashi was able to expel water and in the anime, fire. If you can't comprehend, he has a mask on.
 

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I think one eye is able to install a command into a person, in which that person has to obey, and the other eye can (with eye contact) controll a person into doing something. So they aren't really the exact same thing.

Could you explain further please? It sounds like they both just make a person do something.
 

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We don't speak on that logic. >.> Example, Kakashi was able to expel water and in the anime, fire. If you can't comprehend, he has a mask on.

Lol that's true.

I'm just thinking about the mechanics of the fireball jutsu. Doesn't the user have to breathe out gas and then ignite it with a spark? If that's the case then wouldn't the fire also burn their mouth or wherever the gas comes from?
 

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Izanami doesn't require eye contact either. It works on the senses.

I'd say that Itachi is better here because he actually helped Kabuto, whereas kotoakatsukami would just manipulate him.

Manipulate him into realizing what he is doing is wrong/evil
 

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....But, Kabuto dosen't have Shisui's body..

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I know. The OP was saying Edo Shisui could stop Kabuto with Kotoamatsukami, which is true if you don't think about it.
 

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k.a wouldnt have made kabuto save sasuke...... SO NO . ITACHI IS GOD OF SHINOBI
 
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