[Theory] Shisui could have achieved peace in the same manner as Itachi.

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The Uchiha had to be offed because a revolt would have caused a civil war, making other nations invade.

So Itachi had to do what he had to do.

I get that.


The main issue is the civil war. If that is prevented, then all is fine right?

Well, at night when everyone is sleeping, Shisui could have used Koto on Gai and make him go 8th gate on all of Konoha. Gai is more than capable because in 8th Gate he is at least Juubi Jin level.

Might Gai would be Shisui's Trump Card!!!

Then the Uchiha would take out the survivors if there are any.

Worst comes to worse, Shisui could use his other Koto on Hiruzen to prevent any potential RDS as a counter to Gai's nearly infinite strength.

This plan is full proof.

Itachi saw Gai's power, he could have easily let Shisui in on the secret. It's not as farfetched as you may think it is.

There, non Uchiha Konoha members eliminated and hence no civil war=> No other nations invading.

Peace achieved.



Of course this whole thing assumes that Itachi and Shisui would have the mindset to do this. If if they did, wow, Konoha soloed, just like that.
 
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How could Itachi even know exactly how strong 8th gate Gai was though? He would be making an assumption that would pose far too great a risk, if what he expected didn't live up to the hype.
 

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You know how small a single clan is compared to a whole village? :|

They would get solo'd right after by the other nations.
 

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How could Itachi even know exactly how strong 8th gate Gai was though? He would be making an assumption that would pose far too great a risk, if what he expected didn't live up to the hype.

Itachi was amazed when he saw Gai solo a battalion in the lower gates.

He even backed out, even after making a fodder out of Kakahi, just to avoid Gai.

He even told akatsuki to not underestimate Gai because Gai was too strong.

Itachi knows that Gai is strong enough to accomplish nearly anything.
 

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You know how small a single clan is compared to a whole village? :|

They would get solo'd right after by the other nations.

Gai can solo anyone. So of course Shisui would be wise to control him.

No because there would be no civil war. It's all at night. Just like Itachi did.
 

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Itachi was amazed when he saw Gai solo a battalion in the lower gates.

He even backed out, even after making a fodder out of Kakahi, just to avoid Gai.

He even told akatsuki to not underestimate Gai because Gai was too strong.

Itachi knows that Gai is strong enough to accomplish nearly anything.
Yeah but Shisui was dead at that point. So once again Itachi at the time of the Uchiha massacre had no idea of Gais 8th gates feats. So that idea still would've been a bad one, and very illogical.
 

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Wrong, itachi and shishui's love and loyalty for the village outweighs their love for the Uchiha. Shishui would of prevented the coupe had Danzo allowed him to kotowhatever the leaders of the revolt. Danzo just wanted their sharingans, dude was a serious ****.
 

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Gai can solo anyone. So of course Shisui would be wise to control him.

No because there would be no civil war. It's all at night. Just like Itachi did.
The battle with Madara while Gai went 8 gates only lasted like 30 seconds anyways, and Gais chakra had already been drained. No matter how strong 8 gates Gai is, he couldn't have taken a village out in 30 seconds, not even in 5 minutes for that matter.
 

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Yeah but Shisui was dead at that point. So once again Itachi at the time of the Uchiha massacre had no idea of Gais 8th gates feats. So that idea still would've been a bad one, and very illogical.

Actually, he saw Gai fight before Shisui fought Danzo. So if they collaborated before that, along with the rest of the Uchiha clan, this would have been a cakewalk.
 

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Wrong, itachi and shishui's love and loyalty for the village outweighs their love for the Uchiha. Shishui would of prevented the coupe had Danzo allowed him to kotowhatever the leaders of the revolt. Danzo just wanted their sharingans, dude was a serious ****.

That is also Loyality. Konoha would be protected from an invasion from other countries if a civil war is prevented.

This is just another method of preventing a civil war.
 

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I thought a legit good idea would come in this thread. I am disappointed
 

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Gai can solo Konoha. Do you disagree?

Where is your counter proof?

When did Itachi, and Shisui see Gai open up any Gates before Sisuis death? Show the scans. Even if they did, they still couldn't know exactly how strong the 8th gate is. There's a big leap from 7th to 8th gate. Gai in 7 gates could barely fight Jinchuriki Madara, while 8th gates Gai destroyed him. So in their minds 8th gates was still only hype. Once again 8th gates Gai only lasted 30 seconds against Madara till his chakra was drained, and that's not enough time to take out the whole village of Konoha either. No matter how you look at this Itachi, nor Shisui would've ever considered this idea. Mainly because they felt that the Uchiha were in the wrong to begin with, and secondly even if they were on the Uchiha's side they wouldn't have done for the reasons I've listed above. They would've been smarter than that and would've thought of a better way to go about this.

Gai only gets about 30 seconds to a minute out of 8 gates once more. Keep this in mind, because this completely destroys your idea.
 

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When did Itachi, and Shisui see Gai open up any Gates before Sisuis death? Show the scans. Even if they did, they still couldn't know exactly how strong the 8th gate is. There's a big leap from 7th to 8th gate. Gai in 7 gates could barely fight Jinchuriki Madara, while 8th gates Gai destroyed him. So in their minds 8th gates was still only hype. Once again 8th gates Gai only lasted 30 seconds against Madara till his chakra was drained, and that's not enough time to take out the whole village of Konoha either. No matter how you look at this Itachi, nor Shisui would've ever considered this idea. Mainly because they felt that the Uchiha were in the wrong to begin with, and secondly even if they were on the Uchiha's side they wouldn't have done for the reasons I've listed above. They would've been smarter than that and would've thought of a better way to go about this.

Gai only gets about 30 seconds to a minute out of 8 gates once more. Keep this in mind, because this completely destroys your idea.

It was in the anime. But I'm sure you know that Itachi backed out immediately upon seeing Gai, even though he soloed Kakashi like it was nothing. That should have told us that Itachi knew something that the readers didn't.

How is there a better way to solo Konoha? I can't think of one. Please enlighten me.

30 sec with Night Elephant and Night Moth for dessert would kill all enemies. Come on. The man almost took down Juubi Jin Madara!!!

Juubi level power >>>Nagato and yet Nagato destoryed Konoha so Gai can destory Konoha even easier.
 
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IF, and only IF, Itachi and Shisui decided to work with the Uchiha against Konoha, than this sounds semireasonable.
 

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It would work however they likely did not know about gai sense is amazing abilities
 

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That is also Loyality. Konoha would be protected from an invasion from other countries if a civil war is prevented.

This is just another method of preventing a civil war.

Your described scenario wouldn't work, as soon as someone was killed by Gai or Hiruzen or whoever you wanted Shisui to mind control, word would have gotten out through someone. Civil war would have broke out in your scenario, it would be a domino effect, someone dies, friends/family of that person would want revenge for taking a loved one until all shinobi were killed. Then you're left with a defenseless village which would be destroyed by a neighboring country, that's not loyalty.
 

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Itachi didn't backed up because gai showed up, he even said they didn't came to start a big fight.
 
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