Shinsuusenju, Minato and Tobirama.

[Gold Lightning]

it is made of wood, it is not as durable as you try to make i out to be, and you can't compare the branch that Madara cut to those that Tobirama did, I insist that Suidanha can cut true shinsuu's leg, nothing suggests otherwise

It's sage enhanced wood, the durability is on a completely different level of that of regular wood and base Hashirama's wood. His golem jutsu caught a tailed beast bomb without it being destroyed, imagine he enhanced his wood golem with senjutsu, he could probably juggle tailed beast bombs.

Shinsuusenju >>>> wood golem and any other wood technique he has. I don't think it's something that can be easily cut. I think you're underestimating how much senjutsu empowers ones jutsu.

 

[Conspirator.]

it is made of wood, it is not as durable as you try to make i out to be, and you can't compare the branch that Madara cut to those that Tobirama did, I insist that Suidanha can cut true shinsuu's leg, nothing suggests otherwise

The Buddha is a titanic structure. Even it's legs are gigantic. On top of that, the fact that a PS blade combined with a bijuudama could only PARTIALLY destroy the structure, indicates that Tobirama's suiton won't do jack. The legs of SS are far bigger than the god tree branches Tobirama cut, so it won't do anything.

 

[KidGamer65]

People never stop with the BS huh?

1. Who cares if they are small? That isn't any kind of excuse. Mokujin is fast enough to intercept Kurama's Bijuu Dama, which can cross a sea in a second or two. Shinsuusenju is stronger. It'd pound them and the whole surrounding area.

2. And please, how in the world will a jutsu whose only feat is cutting a small Shinju branch, going to cut Shinsuusenju's legs? Not only are the legs bigger than the branches he cut, they are more durable as Shinju's branches were getting cut by Madara's Gunbai, a fan, not made to cut. The only difference in the branch they cut was number, Tobirama cut more because his jutsu had a longer range than the Gunbai.

When you can actually prove that those branches were more durable than Shinsuusenju's legs, then you can actually think your point is valid. "Its made of wood" is not only an invalid argument, its an idiotic one to be frank.

 

[Tobby17]

People never stop with the BS huh?

1. Who cares if they are small? That isn't any kind of excuse. Mokujin is fast enough to intercept Kurama's Bijuu Dama, which can cross a sea in a second or two. Shinsuusenju is stronger. It'd pound them and the whole surrounding area.

2. And please, how in the world will a jutsu whose only feat is cutting a small Shinju branch, going to cut Shinsuusenju's legs? Not only are the legs bigger than the branches he cut, they are more durable as Shinju's branches were getting cut by Madara's Gunbai, a fan, not made to cut. The only difference in the branch they cut was number, Tobirama cut more because his jutsu had a longer range than the Gunbai.

When you can actually prove that those branches were more durable than Shinsuusenju's legs, then you can actually think your point is valid. "Its made of wood" is not only an invalid argument, its an idiotic one to be frank.

you want to believe so, there's nothing to prove that SS's legs are any more durable than Shinju, you think if Madara hit it with his gmubai or Hiruzen hit it with his staff, nothing will happen?

 

[KidGamer65]

you want to believe so, there's nothing to prove that SS's legs are any more durable than Shinju, you think if Madara hit it with his gmubai or Hiruzen hit it with his staff, nothing will happen?

The fact its main body came out of 11 Bijuu Dama explosions intact tells me that yes, its legs are more durable than the Shinju, just like the rest of Hashirama's Mokuton. Not to mention I see you have STILL failed to provide evidence for your argument. When Tobirama cuts something better than a tiny branch, then we can talk about him cutting Shinsuusenju's legs, which are much much larger than the branches he cut.

lmao, no shit Sherlock. If you think the Gunbai is cutting Shinsuusenju's legs, you can't be taken seriously.

 

[Tobby17]

The Buddha is a titanic structure. Even it's legs are gigantic. On top of that, the fact that a PS blade combined with a bijuudama could only PARTIALLY destroy the structure, indicates that Tobirama's suiton won't do jack. The legs of SS are far bigger than the god tree branches Tobirama cut, so it won't do anything.

ofcourse and who says Tobirama's suiton will destroy the whole structure?..

I do not think SS's legs are that much bigger than shinju's branches.not according to what I see on chapter 621 anyway

 

[Conspirator.]

ofcourse and who says Tobirama's suiton will destroy the whole structure?..

I do not think SS's legs are that much bigger than shinju's branches.not according to what I see on chapter 621 anyway

Yes, the legs are bigger than the god tree's branches tobirama cut. I have seen no evidence that Tobirama's suiton can cut something so big and durable.

 

[Tobby17]

The fact its main body came out of 11 Bijuu Dama explosions intact tells me that yes, its legs are more durable than the Shinju, just like the rest of Hashirama's Mokuton. Not to mention I see you have STILL failed to provide evidence for your argument. When Tobirama cuts something better than a tiny branch, then we can talk about him cutting Shinsuusenju's legs, which are much much larger than the branches he cut.

lmao, no shit Sherlock. If you think the Gunbai is cutting Shinsuusenju's legs, you can't be taken seriously.

Madara wasn't targeting it's whole body. And it just wasn't one branch that Tobirama's suiton cut through by the way there was a few of them and it cut through all of it. Shinsuusenju's legs isn't more durable than all those branches combined. it isn't smh.

 

[Tobby17]

Yes, the legs are bigger than the god tree's branches tobirama cut. I have seen no evidence that Tobirama's suiton can cut something so big and durable.

You only assume they're bigger.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara wasn't targeting it's whole body.

The explosions covered its whole body. Irrelevant whether he was targeting it or not.

And it just wasn't one branch that Tobirama's suiton cut through by the way there was a few of them and it cut through all of it. Shinsuusenju's legs isn't more durable than all those branches combined. it isn't smh.

Oh, he cut through three of them. Big whoop.

Get evidence for the bold. You keep repeating the same shit over and over again but I've yet to see evidence. Its

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I have no reason to believe that the Shinju's branches are more durable when they are smaller, and when they cut by things like Madara's Gunbai, while Madara needs things like Susanoo or Kurama to damage Hashirama's Mokuton Constructs.

I know you want to make Tobirama seem much better than he really is, but this is getting ridiculous.

 

[Conspirator.]

You only assume they're bigger.

It's a fact that the legs are bigger than the god tree branches that Tobirama cut. I don't like posting scans, so read the manga yourself and you will see what I mean. Again, I have seen nothing that suggests tobirama can cut something so big.

 

[Tobby17]

Get evidence for the bold. You keep repeating the same shit over and over again but I've yet to see evidence. Its

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I have no reason to believe that the Shinju's branches are more durable when they are smaller, and when they cut by things like Madara's Gunbai, while Madara needs things like Susanoo or Kurama to damage Hashirama's Mokuton Constructs.

I know you want to make Tobirama seem much better than he really is, but this is getting ridiculous.

make him look better?. Lol I thought of a possible way he could bring down shinsuusenju and you think I'm trying to make him look ''better''..

 

[Tobby17]

It's a fact that the legs are bigger than the god tree branches that Tobirama cut. I don't like posting scans, so read the manga yourself and you will see what I mean. Again, I have seen nothing that suggests tobirama can cut something so big.

I haven't seen anything to suggest he can't, the only time he's used the justu, it's been effective.

 

[KidGamer65]

make him look better?. Lol I thought of a possible way he could bring down shinsuusenju and you think I'm trying to make him look ''better''..

So I see you still haven't given me any evidence....lol.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

The explosions covered its whole body. Irrelevant whether he was targeting it or not.

I aint taking no one side, but what? Just because the scan shows SS covered in blast range, doesn't mean to interpret the ending result as tanked. Common sense shows that Mokuton from any part have same durability so you can't simply interpret " oh this part of SS is more durable then this spot".

Toby is right when he explained where the bombs direction is. All of was aiming upwards, cutting away most of SS backpack. In your same scan of SS, the backpack covers SS as a whole. So just viewing each of them going down, from either breaking by punching Susanoo or ripping from Susanoo sword, we can conclude that the massive construction will leaves massive debris behind. So in the when a bomb were to explode behind SS, the bombs energy output, gives it that result of covering SS from debris.

In the end SS legs do not have different durability nor hasn't it shown that Mokuton Durability had increased.

 

[Tobby17]

I aint taking no one side, but what? Just because the scan shows SS covered in blast range, doesn't mean to interpret the ending result as tanked. Common sense shows that Mokuton from any part have same durability so you can't simply interpret " oh this part of SS is more durable then this spot".

Toby is right when he explained where the bombs direction is. All of was aiming upwards, cutting away most of SS backpack. In your same scan of SS, the backpack covers SS as a whole. So just viewing each of them going down, from either breaking by punching Susanoo or ripping from Susanoo sword, we can conclude that the massive construction will leaves massive debris behind. So in the when a bomb were to explode behind SS, the bombs energy output, gives it that result of covering SS from debris.

In the end SS legs do not have different durability nor hasn't it shown that Mokuton Durability had increased.

thank goodness someone else gets it, they are trying to make it look like I'm just 'fanboying'