although I like the idea, no. There is simply no feasible way that they can be the same thing. It is a fact that the sage of six paths sealed the juubi into the moon, so it wouldn't be a stretch that Madara was able to break the seal with the rinnegan. Also, why would he lie about it? There was no reason for him to lie about releasing the juubi. Plus, how could he have possibly made the shinsuusenju into a host for the tailed beasts? This is a point that I want to stress because you are implying that Madara was magically able to make a jutsu into a suitable host for the ten tails. Also, I think you are forgetting that the gedo mazo was constantly releasing chakra even though it was just a shell, which leads me to believe that it was actually the ten tails body since the ten tails is supposedly the progenitor of chakra and life, WHICH leads me to believe that it was NOT the shinsuusenju, unless you are implying that Hashirama was SO STRONG that a jutsu of his (note that his technique is NOT a summon, just an extremely overpowered wood style jutsu) was able to constantly release chakra for a century after his death. If you look at these points, I think you will see that your theory is impossible.
Than you for your really interesting post! Yes i might have overlooked writing about that part where The Gedo mazo/shinsuusenju is releasing chackra all the time, but i have now updated my first post. so please read "UPDATE 2" where i explain how this is possible.
Also the Shinsuusenju is on a total different size scale than the Gedo knowing that Choji and his dad where the same size as the Gedo and the Kyuubi was a rat next to the Shinsuusenju.
Thank you for your post proving me wrong in my Initial post, this is true that the Shinsuusenju is NOT "roughly the same size" as the current Gedo Mazo. I only have two explanations two this and it´s either that Madara Created his own Shinsuusenju after he got his hands on The first:s DNA (But could only do a smaller one), or that the Shinsuusenju lost his power thanks to loosing his many arms and being transfered to Madara, and in that way shrinking in size.
The Gedo Mazo is the original shell, without a doubt. There are two ways to explain the difference. One, we have not yet seen the Juubi's final form, so it is possible it will look more like the statue after it has transformed completely. Two, the actual container of the Juubi changed its form when the beasts were removed from it. Perhaps the outer appearance we are seeing that depicts the Juubi is only a result of the chakra on top of the shell, where the shell doesn't actually portray any of the Juubi's multiple forms?
Thank you for your post! Great comment that made me question my own theory!
I have two explanations two if the current form of the Juubi is it´s final form or if it have one transformation left:
1. The juubi still have one transformation left, If we look at the earlier pics where the sage of six paths is fighting the Juubi he have different horns and looks to have a bigger torso than his current skinny form.
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2. The skinny form IS his final transformation, But he is really skinny and only have one arm because Obito didnt use the full power of the Nine-tails & 8-Tails when he combined the juubi.
Some of you guys need to show a lot more respect for other people's theories. Hell, people laughed and trolled and complained at every thread explaining that tobi was obito and look what happened.
Granted, I personally don't think that the gedo is the shinsuusenju. However, he has decent enough evidence, and maybe kishi would have some ulterior motive for making it so. Reminds me of something that already happened... oh right, OBITO!!
People were so very wrong in their reasons why tobi was obito, but in the end, kishi gave his OWN explanation as to how it fit into his world, so who knows?
Not us!
Good theory bro.
Thank you for your inspiring reply ^^
Of course i´m not 100% sure that this theory is right but i´m still going to stand by it until we see the real results, and it´s funnier and more appreciated if people reply with serious answers about why my theory is wrong. i have updated it several times because thanks to people questioning the theory and i myself is thinking more how the puzzle could fit together.
Gedo Mazou is the Summon that the SOT6P used to seal the bijuu and separate it in to the all 9 tailed beasts.
Thank you for your post!
So you are saying that SOT6P Summonend the Gedo Mazou and then sealed the juubi into it and then sealed the Gedo Mazou into the moon?
This is quite interesting because as we know the SOT6P became the jinchuuriki of the Juubi. and then after a couple of years divided the juubis chackra into the 9 tailed beasts... So there was no real body of the juubi when it got split up? Or did SOT6P Seal the Juubis body into the moon during the first time he became the jinchuuriki and sealed the chackra into his body?
I will probably do an update thanks to this post.