Shinra Tensei>=Buddha!!! (I think so)

[Dark Artist]

Nagato isn't knocking down a Buddha with any Shinra Tensei he has shown so far. Did you forget about weight when you drew the conclusion of ST knocking it over?

Also at destructive power. People need to understand that Shinra Tensei by itself has absolutely no destructive power whatsoever, its just a repulsive force. Colliding into things is what causes the damage. Killer B was injured from being tossed backwards by Shinra Tensei, because he did not collide into anything.

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Notice here that it isn't the ST Repulsive force that hurt Hinata that badly. It was the repulsive force sending her into the ground.

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CST only made that crater because the repulsive force was aimed toward the ground. When it hit the ground it started destroying it making a crater. (Also I'd like to note that the ST Nagato used was used by turning his other paths off and fueling Deva with all his power. That ST will be the same size even if Nagato was using it by himself)

If someone was in a plain with no hindrances near by and they got hit by CST, they would be sent flying back god knows how far but they wouldn't be injured.

You are also looking at the techniques AoE to determine power, but that is not how it works, at all. Attacks like Bijuu Dama (Kurama) do more damage to a structure like PS or the Buddha than AoE attacks do. Tenpenchii was an AoE attack and it was tanked using a V2/V3 Susanoo and the Kyuubi V1 cloak.

Buddha would tank any CST or he could overpower it via Chojo Kebutsu, considering the crater it made was deeper than the one made by CST, which means more force, if the two clashed the one with more force would break through.

ur comment is full of wanking and riding for hashirama than known FACTS

i posted a scan from the manga about how easily the buddha got smashed

u really need to go back and play some kingdom hearts " KID "
because u suck as a debater ..

 

[KidGamer65]

ur comment is full of wanking and riding for hashirama than known FACTS

i posted a scan from the manga about how easily the buddha got smashed easily

Yeah, it got smashed, after powering through 12 Bladedamas and smashing your lord Madara's Susanoo like a piece of glass. (lol) Not to mention 12 Bladedamas>>>>>>>CST. Your point moron?

u really need to go back and play some kingdom hearts " KID "
because u suck as a debater ..

You really need to hop off deez nuts.

 

[blazekev90]

I lost interest when you started to do something with size.

Size is one of the most inconsistent things in the manga and this manga is known for its inconsistencies.
That says a lot about what you are trying to say.

Anyway nope, i do not believe shinra tensei on any magnitude will overcome it and this more about weight than size imo.
That thing picked up kurama like a toy

So,because the created seems to be inconsistent at times we as users should ignore certain arguments? That makes no sense, especially seeing as you once made a thread comparing PS to Danzo's summoning in SIZE!

 

[Prince Charles]

Agreed with kidgamer.

 

[BlackFlame44]

wrong. nagato managed to pull a rock that was far away from their distance. he could do the same to hashirama.

Not as far as the Buddha :|

 

[BlackFlame44]

Kidgamer destroyed this thread harder than hashirama stomps nagato

 

[Midday]

the fact that bansho tenin has no feats of extending to such to range.

Got any proof? We've seen how far shinra tensei can stretch with just the paths power. Nagato's power is a level above the paths. Wasn't Nagato on top of a nearby mountain when he controlled the paths as well? That's an indication of how far his power can stretch.


As for the 9 tails actual size we really don't know regardless of what scans so saying it's far bigger than the rest of the bijuu isn't proved. You guys don't realise how inconsistent he is. Compare Madara to the 9 tails in these pictures below. In the first page Madara's almost as long as it's snout in the next page he's smaller than it's eye.

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[BlackFlame44]

Got any proof? We've seen how far shinra tensei can stretch with just the paths power. Nagato's power is a level above the paths. Wasn't Nagato on top of a nearby mountain when he controlled the paths as well? That's an indication of how far his power can stretch.


As for the 9 tails actual size we really don't know regardless of what scans so saying it's far bigger than the rest of the bijuu isn't proved. You guys don't realise how inconsistent he is. Compare Madara to the 9 tails in these pictures below. In the first page Madara's almost as long as it's snout in the next page he's smaller than it's eye.

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Did u even read what he said? The paths = nagato stop making stuff up

 

[Midday]

Did u even read what he said? The paths = nagato stop making stuff up

Naruto said it loud and clear, Nagato > paths.

 

[Champ]

I agree blaze

 

[Bronze]

Did u even read what he said? The paths = nagato stop making stuff up

manga made it clear that nagato's paths techs > pains's.

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[KidGamer65]

Got any proof? We've seen how far shinra tensei can stretch with just the paths power. Nagato's power is a level above the paths. Wasn't Nagato on top of a nearby mountain when he controlled the paths as well? That's an indication of how far his power can stretch.


As for the 9 tails actual size we really don't know regardless of what scans so saying it's far bigger than the rest of the bijuu isn't proved. You guys don't realise how inconsistent he is. Compare Madara to the 9 tails in these pictures below. In the first page Madara's almost as long as it's snout in the next page he's smaller than it's eye.

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The simple fact that it was shown to be bigger than its 50% self, that was shown to be the same size as Hachibi, is proof that 100% Kurama is bigger than the rest of the Bijuu. What you listed was merely a drawing error with Madara, not Kurama itself.

 

[Midday]

The simple fact that it was shown to be bigger than its 50% self, that was shown to be the same size as Hachibi, is proof that 100% Kurama is bigger than the rest of the Bijuu. What you listed was merely a drawing error with Madara, not Kurama itself.

50% self being Naruto's bm avatar? That's not the actual 9 tails it's just chakra taking it's shape which can be

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I'll add that inside Naruto's mind the 9 tails is a lot bigger than his bm avatar. Naruto's around the size of it's eye here

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[KidGamer65]

50% self being Naruto's bm avatar? That's not the actual 9 tails it's just chakra taking it's shape which can be

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I'll add that inside Naruto's mind the 9 tails is a lot bigger than his bm avatar. Naruto's around the size of it's eye here

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I see. Then this would mean 100% Kurama>50% Kurama>Other Bijuu in terms of size.

 

[Midday]

I see. Then this would mean 100% Kurama>50% Kurama>Other Bijuu in terms of size.

Is this 50% Naruto's bm? We saw it compared to the others and it was the same size, the one time we saw the bijuu gathered they were all the same size.

 

[blazekev90]

Nagato isn't knocking down a Buddha with any Shinra Tensei he has shown so far. Did you forget about weight when you drew the conclusion of ST knocking it over?

Also at destructive power. People need to understand that Shinra Tensei by itself has absolutely no destructive power whatsoever, its just a repulsive force. Colliding into things is what causes the damage. Killer B was injured from being tossed backwards by Shinra Tensei, because he did not collide into anything.

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Notice here that it isn't the ST Repulsive force that hurt Hinata that badly. It was the repulsive force sending her into the ground.

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CST only made that crater because the repulsive force was aimed toward the ground. When it hit the ground it started destroying it making a crater. (Also I'd like to note that the ST Nagato used was used by turning his other paths off and fueling Deva with all his power. That ST will be the same size even if Nagato was using it by himself)

If someone was in a plain with no hindrances near by and they got hit by CST, they would be sent flying back god knows how far but they wouldn't be injured.

You are also looking at the techniques AoE to determine power, but that is not how it works, at all. Attacks like Bijuu Dama (Kurama) do more damage to a structure like PS or the Buddha than AoE attacks do. Tenpenchii was an AoE attack and it was tanked using a V2/V3 Susanoo and the Kyuubi V1 cloak.

Buddha would tank any CST or he could overpower it via Chojo Kebutsu, considering the crater it made was deeper than the one made by CST, which means more force, if the two clashed the one with more force would break through.

There's also the fact that your size comparison became flawed when you said 100% Kurama=Gamabunta in size based on a scan where he was sitting on Kurama's neck (lol) despite him being shown to be as big as Shukaku, who is as big as the other Bijuu. 100% Kurama is far bigger than the rest of the Bijuu along with its 50% self.

repulsive force has a different impact than two head-to-head colliding powers. As we've seen multiple times, when two colliding attacks connect they exploding, leaving the more durable user standing (Ex. Naruto vs. Sasuke). However, a repulsive force is designed to repel an attack, thus pushing it backwards. In doing this, the force with an attack coming forward would be crushed like a car hitting an invisble wall

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or blown backwards. Force itself produces a change in a physical quantity mass X acceleration. Therefore, the impact ST has all depends on how much force Nagato puts into ST and where one is exactly in located.

You're using Bee as an example, who Nagato (for Kabuto) wasn't trying to kill, 2.didnt put full force in ST 3. Bee's distance/location was a factor!! Of course, any stationary object would be pushed BACK TI"S A REPEL, what dont you understand?!?!?! Nagato has the ability to use this (if he wants) to crush anything

AGAIN Look at the levels of damage done to the surrounding environment. Where the force is the strongest, the damage is obviously great. This being the center, where Deva put all HIS FORCE. Look where the villages gourd levels are suppose to be in comparison.

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This isn't even Nagato at his full stregnth!!

You are simply trying not to understand the impact of ST in favor of Hashi

Also, show me a scan of FULL KYuubi where to can prove his size is greater than the other tailed beast!! Toads are fat and round, compared to a fox that is long ans skinny. Their shape is obviously different, but their general size is just about the same




This is a completely different

 

[BlackFlame44]

Is this 50% Naruto's bm? We saw it compared to the others and it was the same size, the one time we saw the bijuu gathered they were all the same size.

Kurama got skinnier not smaller

 

[KingHashirama]

I don't see what's stopping Nagato from using bansho tennin and taking Hashirama off the buddah.

It can easily be resisted.

 

[BlackFlame44]

It can easily be resisted.

How ?

 

[Midday]

It can easily be resisted.

Like how Naruto resisted it even though he's been up against it before and has chakra arms to grab something in a similar fashion as Hashirama's mokuton but that never happened. He was

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with Nagato's BT.