Shino, definitely in the top 3 of konoha 11

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As for choji, he doesn't need to get a hit. He can destroy him with his bugs.
And lee hasn't shown anything impressive apart from his match against gaara.
Don't know if he has developed from there. He rarely uses the gates. Shino can definitely counter the lee's strength from chuunin xams. So, he can't lose against lee of present.

You make me lol. Gaara's ultimate sand defence couldn't even keep up with lee's speed and your insisting Shino's bugs can? Lee wins low-mid dif
 

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Not sure if you're trolling or not o_O

How are a couple of bugs taking care of this ?
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And Part 1 Lee was enough to surpass Gaara's Sand without the gates, Shino's bugs would be useless against that kind of speed

bugs eat chakra

look at shino vs tobi
 

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Call me when Choji can hit a punch without the help of Shikamaru and Ino, why do you think they are paired? The strongest punch, the ability to restrain someones movement etc.. Alone Choji can't just hit Shino. He got insect clones, and his insects can drain chakra from Choji. He can also form a shield of them. Now we can't know if he has enough insects to cover all of Chojis enlarged body, since we've never seen it, but on the contrary neither have we seen him, not being able to.
Chouji had no problem punching the gedo mazo or taking out hiashi and kakazu in butterfly mode......

Alright, my comment was a bit short, but Shino would lose to

Naruto
Chouji
Neji
Rock Lee
Sakura
Kiba
Hinata
Tenten

The main reason being that they are perfectly aware of the fact that he uses bugs, so they know they'll have to watch out for that
This i agree with. Shino's advantage comes from the opponent not knowing he uses bugs. But if the opponent knows then the strategy isn't as affective. One example is his fight with Kankuro which would have ended in Shino dying but kankuro surviving had people not intervened. People with strong attacks can easily overwhelm him if they know they need to avoid his bugs - this is even easier if you have a byakugan or are Kiba since they can sense where the bugs and the original are at all times.
 

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none of them can beat shino, are you crazy?

rock lee
sai
MAYBE choji

these are the only ones
Yeah, BM Naruto would crumble against bugs....
Chouji with his butterfly mode will wreck
Neji needs no explaining
Rock Lee with the gates
Sakura only needs to land one hit on Shino
Kiba is the same as Sakura, and Akamaru's help would make it easier
Hinata, did you see her against Pain ? How will Shino handle that power
Tenten is a long range fighter. She knows that she should stay away from the bugs and use her weapons instead
 

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This i agree with. Shino's advantage comes from the opponent not knowing he uses bugs. But if the opponent knows then the strategy isn't as affective. One example is his fight with Kankuro which would have ended in Shino dying but kankuro surviving had people not intervened. People with strong attacks can easily overwhelm him if they know they need to avoid his bugs - this is even easier if you have a byakugan or are Kiba since they can sense where the bugs and the original are at all times.

you know how hard it is to dodge a million bugs coming at you?
 
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Chouji had no problem punching the gedo mazo or taking out hiashi and kakazu in butterfly mode......


This i agree with. Shino's advantage comes from the opponent not knowing he uses bugs. But if the opponent knows then the strategy isn't as affective. One example is his fight with Kankuro which would have ended in Shino dying but kankuro surviving had people not intervened. People with strong attacks can easily overwhelm him if they know they need to avoid his bugs - this is even easier if you have a byakugan or are Kiba since they can sense where the bugs and the original are at all times.

We all know the edo's got sht on hard. Kakashi, Choji and Ino wasn't enough to stop Kakazu when he was alive.
 
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you know how hard it is to dodge a million bugs coming at you?

Who said he would need to dodge anything. Gaara's sand shield moves on its own to protect him and Lee was faster then that. What honestly makes you think bugs would be faster then a built in defence system?
 

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you know how hard it is to dodge a million bugs coming at you?
=_= thats why you plan ahead so they don't surround you. Neji, Hinata and Kiba all have the capacity to know exactly where the bugs and the original shino are at all times. They therefore make sure they don't get cornered and always attack the original and not a clone. With shino's advantage done, he is basically a sitting duck since he has shown no skill in any area outside his clans jutsu.

We all know the edo's got sht on hard. Kakashi, Choji and Ino wasn't enough to stop Kakazu when he was alive.
To true, edo's got troll, but that doesn't mean that characters can't get stronger during the series - choji is a obvious example of this.
 

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Shino's attack against tobi (which was similar to gaara's sand coffin) can easily finish choji off and even beat neji by draining his chakra as his defence is based on chakra radiation from his body.
 
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=_= thats why you plan ahead so they don't surround you. Neji, Hinata and Kiba all have the capacity to know exactly where the bugs and the original shino are at all times. They therefore make sure they don't get cornered and always attack the original and not a clone. With shino's advantage done, he is basically a sitting duck since he has shown no skill in any area outside his clans jutsu.


To true, edo's got troll, but that doesn't mean that characters can't get stronger during the series - choji is a obvious example of this.

I can admit to Choji getting stronger but compared to alot of K-11 he's still fodder.
 

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Yeah, BM Naruto would crumble against bugs....
Chouji with his butterfly mode will wreck
Neji needs no explaining
Rock Lee with the gates
Sakura only needs to land one hit on Shino
Kiba is the same as Sakura, and Akamaru's help would make it easier
Hinata, did you see her against Pain ? How will Shino handle that power
Tenten is a long range fighter. She knows that she should stay away from the bugs and use her weapons instead

you're underrating shino ALOT

shino is a long range fighter, remember shino vs kankuro

long range alone will beat sakura, neji, hinata and kiba because they cant get close to hit shino while shino can just keep his distance and surround them

ten ten cant do anythin, she can throw kunai but shino will surround her with bugs like he did to obito and she will be finished

ino is needs no explaination

shikamaru is a close/med range fighter and shino is a little intelligent too, but again shikamaru will get surrounded by bugs
shikamaru isnt a fighter

like i said rock lee, sai and MAYBE choji are the only ones that can beat shino

im obviously not counting naruto and sasuke
 
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Shino's attack against tobi (which was similar to gaara's sand coffin) can easily finish choji off and even beat neji by draining his chakra as his defence is based on chakra radiation from his body.

His bugs have to reach Neji first which would never happen because Neji can see them before they surround him. Also have you forgotten Neji has rotation?
 
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you're underrating shino ALOT

shino is a long range fighter, remember shino vs kankuro

long range alone will beat sakura, neji, hinata and kiba because they cant get close to hit shino while shino can just keep his distance and surround them

ten ten cant do anythin, she can throw kunai but shino will surround her with bugs like he did to obito and she will be finished

ino is needs no explaination

shikamaru is a close/med range fighter and shino is a little intelligent too, but again shikamaru will get surrounded by bugs
shikamaru isnt a fighter

like i said rock lee, sai and MAYBE choji are the only ones that can beat shino

im obviously not counting naruto and sasuke

So your implying Choji>Neji?
 

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How cool would that be if shino got a giant bug summon
 

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you're underrating shino ALOT

shino is a long range fighter, remember shino vs kankuro

long range alone will beat sakura, neji, hinata and kiba because they cant get close to hit shino while shino can just keep his distance and surround them

ten ten cant do anythin, she can throw kunai but shino will surround her with bugs like he did to obito and she will be finished

ino is needs no explaination

shikamaru is a close/med range fighter and shino is a little intelligent too, but again shikamaru will get surrounded by bugs
shikamaru isnt a fighter

like i said rock lee, sai and MAYBE choji are the only ones that can beat shino

im obviously not counting naruto and sasuke
They know they have to avoid getting surrounded... -_-

Neji has rotation

Hinata can shoot chakra from her chakra spots

Kiba has fang over fang

Tenten's Kunai will pierce Shino before the bugs reach her

Same with Shikamaru's Shadow

Sakura is a medical nin, who's first priority is evasion. She won't get caught by the bugs.

Ino will get fodderized though
 

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So what if neji has rotation. He is just emitting chakra. Would be an easy prey for shino's chakra eating bugs.
 

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So what if neji has rotation. He is just emitting chakra. Would be an easy prey for shino's chakra eating bugs.
Neji was able to deflect every single spider Kidomaro sent to him. What's the difference with Shino's bugs ?

And to correct you here above, how are bugs going to surround Choji when he's as big as the Gedo ?
 

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Besides, shino's cool head and ability to analyze evey situation well makes him a potent shinobi. He is multifaceted unlike various others.( not a moron like kiba, choji, lee)
 
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